Any liberal with a decent sized brain, please challenge me

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Keenly

Guest
i kinda the like the picture with the crashed plane that says

OMG


look at those gas prices



since the woman doesnt cook anything for me, nor does she ever purchase food, i dont think she deserves to be even labeled kitchen woman
 

Big P

Well-Known Member
i kinda the like the picture with the crashed plane that says

OMG


look at those gas prices



since the woman doesnt cook anything for me, nor does she ever purchase food, i dont think she deserves to be even labeled kitchen woman


lol i feel ya, woman these days, not too many are wife matirial:bigjoint: atleast the pampered american women:bigjoint:


get yourself a mexican hottie and she will pop you out 12 babies while cleaning the house cooking you dinner and sucking your dick:bigjoint:


ya ill admit thats a really gross image of a mexican lady doing all the shit at once but i digress:bigjoint:



im mean 12 babies while sucking dick, come on:roll: is that even possible?
 
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Keenly

Guest
lol i feel ya, woman these days, not too many are wife matirial:bigjoint: atleast the pampered american women:bigjoint:


get yourself a mexican hottie and she will pop you out 12 babies while cleaning the house cooking you dinner and sucking your dick:bigjoint:


ya ill admit thats a really gross image of a mexican lady doing all the shit at once but i digress:bigjoint:



im mean 12 babies while sucking dick, come on:roll:

nah i hate kids =/

1 or 2 and im through


she is the kind of girl thats, well

book smart, like straight A's and scholarships


but when it comes to life, she is stupid
 

Big P

Well-Known Member
nah i hate kids =/

1 or 2 and im through


she is the kind of girl thats, well

book smart, like straight A's and scholarships


but when it comes to life, she is stupid

well there you go send her out to work making the big bucks and you stay home with the kids and grow, kids need that commen sense approch:blsmoke:
 
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Keenly

Guest
how old are you keen, dont be having those kids too early man
ahaha im 20 but the kids wont be coming til about 35


she is not down with pot either

says she doesnt want me growing when (if) we live together (never gonna happen)


she is not a keeper
 

Big P

Well-Known Member
ahaha im 20 but the kids wont be coming til about 35


she is not down with pot either

says she doesnt want me growing when (if) we live together (never gonna happen)


she is not a keeper

ya imagine being with a gurl since your 20 and then marrying her at 30


sounds crazy to me,

i got married around 25 and had a little gurl 6 months later, just made it :bigjoint:


was debating it for the first few months of her pregnancy but see, even old big P the jerk took responibilty for his actions:bigjoint:


just wasnt ready to be married, now im just over 31 with 2 kids and lookin at every gurls ass that walks by, i think im gonna blow my head off soon:roll::bigjoint:
 

Jack*Herrer420

Well-Known Member
That's why I'm glad my girlfriend is a conservative independant. We switch off making eachother food, and she loves my plants. Good to go.
 

pluto420

Active Member
Ok I am ready step back in the dumb fuck arena. Here are some of your points and my responses




“He has resorted to attacking American citizens, calling them tea baggers and has gone on a world tour to apologize to the world for our past.”




Please provide one article or video where obama called them teabaggers. Media and pundits may have done that but I have not seen Obama say anything like that. I have no problem with him apologizing for some of our past actions. No person or country is perfect. America to me is about as close as it gets but perfect it is not.




“He said his government would be transparent, and that he would include everybody in the decision making. So far, nothing has been transparent, he tried to sneak the healthcare bill past us, not giving us time to read it, and he himself admitting he hadn't read it. How could you support and try to pass something when you don't know what is involved?”




I agree with you on this point but its not new with Obama nor am I sure he is to blame. Very few congressmen/women read the patriot act for example and that was under Bush. I blame the congress and senate more than bush or obama.




“The democrats have locked the doors on republicans, and are up for no debate. They have a goal in mind, and will go through with it wether the American people want it or not.”




I think they are trying to work with republicans more than most presidents work with the other side. I remember when bush won he actually said “I have political capital and I am going to use it” meaning i dont care what anyone else thinks. That was especially apparent with the war in Iraq. Its hard for either of us to prove our point in this case because we are not there and in meetings listening to what happens.




“He has gone on more trips than any other president in history, and has accumalated the largest deficit in American history.”




Yes that is true but at least he is going to places to work and not play. Bush spent more time on vacation than any president and this was with 2 wars and economy tanking to name a few.




"Bush on track to become the vacation president," Julie Mason headlined in the August 9, 2007, edition of the Houston Chronicle:[1]




"On Thursday, Bush left for a weekend in Kennebunkport, Maine, and his family's summer compound, Walker's Point. On Monday, he heads to his Crawford retreat, where he has spent all or part of 418 days of his presidency, according to Mark Knoller, a CBS News White House correspondent and meticulous record-keeper.




"...The presidential vacation-time record holder is the late Ronald Reagan, who tallied 436 days in his two terms. At 418 days, and with 17 months to go in his presidency, Bush is going to beat that easily."






"Bush has spent more than a year of his presidency" at his ranch in Crawford, Texas. On August 19, 2005, "he broke Ronald Reagan's record of 335 days for America's most vacationed president and went on to take the longest presidential vacation in 36 years," Dale McFeatters wrote August 8, 2006, in a ScrippsNews editorial.




“His plans are rooted in marxist ideology.”



I disagree.




“Where in the constitution does it say that the government has the right to take from certain individuals and give to others? “




Man I have been getting screwed for years!!! I make more than my sister and I pay a higher tax than she does. I have been for years. As far as I can remember we have always had a progressive tax system. I didnt know it just started 9 months ago.




“That somehow raising taxes and passing policies that would devastate the average American is good for us. “




Which taxes have been raised and policies passed that have devastated the avg American?Which ones if not passed or implemented will do this? As for as taxes go, he is just going back to be very close to what Reagan had in place.




“but you have to look at the much bigger picture. like Obama's past and who and how his ideal were shaped.”




I have no problems with his past and what I have seen so far of his ideals.




“something like 14% of the entire 1 trillion for the stimulus has been spent. go look at when the majority of this money is to be spent and notice how it's all right around 2010 and 2012 elections. but didnt obama say that if we didnt pass the stimulus that we'd be in a situation we might not be able to get out of if we didnt take action? didnt he say that unemployment wouldnt pass 8% if we didnt pass the stimulus? and now they're out there lieing about jobs created by the stimulus and then after further investigation, the numbers turn out to be a "gross exaggeration."




Bush is the one that started the sky is falling and that if we dont do something then all hell would break lose. It was enough for Mccain to intrerupt his campaign. Yeah unemployment has gone higher and he always won't be right. He has said multiple times that jobs and unemployment rates are not close to where they should be. Bush wasnt always right either. “Mission Accomplished” and “We will be greeted as liberators” were a bit wrong and exaggerated too. My point is that if you expect someone to always be right then let me know when you find that utopia.




“and here's something to chew on. why does this administration not consider someone who shot 13 US soldiers dead in the name of islam and allah an "extremist" but they consider peaceful protesters extremists!!! what the fuck is that? the administration is afraid that the country is starting to wake up to their shell games.”





This is what I saw all over fox. I understand the anger and frustration at such senseless killing but why the need to shout from the rafters this was in the name of islam or allah? People were murdered. Will it come out that this was a islamic extremist? Very likely but why the need for it to be immediate. Things like columbine and virginia university happen and i dont hear people wanting to call them extremist. To me they are crazy. The data they have that hasan had been communicating with terroists happened before obama was president so why didnt the previous admin take action? Dont get me wrong on this one. I am deeply saddened by the deaths and injuries of the people there. I still have 3 family members in the military. An investigation is underway and if they have evidence this was an al qaeda like attack them fine... call him an islamic extremist.



“how did we survive all these years without health insurance and become the strongest power in the world????? “boggles the mind how we could have even done it without healthcare” “so since jesus time there has been no healthcare right? but now we should give it to everyone when our country is on the verge of fucking bankrupcy???????????”


Not since Jesus... We have healthcare it just doesnt work real well. I would love it if rather than having govt healthcare if we could just go to a doctor or hospital and pay a reasonable fee. But that is not the case and private insurance companies are just going to keep denying treatment or serivce while they raise your premiums if you are one of the ones that has insurance. Those that dont have insurance will continue to use the ER for more minor things and drive costs up. Bankruptcy is ok when spending billions on a war in Iraq? Are you against heath reform completely or just against gov run?




“ok and so im guessing life sucks for poeple without healthcare? or does life suck because your sick? i got nothing to do with why you got sick, maybe you ate too many lard burgers and your fat ass heart couldnt take it, thats your fault”


Lots of people get sick because of lifetsyle and fate. Its not your fault I agree. But sometimes its not theirs either. But I dont drive...should i pay for your roads. Another doesnt believe in war should they pay for your wars? Crucify my beliefs, its your right, but I do believe everyone should be able to see a doctor when they are sick and not have to loose their life savings because of it. I actually liked one of the ideas for healthcare reform where they were tossing around the idea of taxing junk food like alchohol and tobacco. People like Beck and Hannity went nuts saying dont tell us what to eat. My take is they are not telling you what to eat but rather if you are going to things that are going to cost tax payers down the road then you can payer a little higher sales tax now.




“love live america, but fuck you dumb fucks that wont take the time to look into things. youre like the people who just go out and buy a car without doing any research and then realize that you bought a lemon a couple months down the road. do some research on these people!”




Ok. Now proceed to calling me a dumb fuck.
 

pluto420

Active Member
Here is the quote.. I don't see where obama called them teabaggers. That is a term the media labeled them and in the text below it is the author of the article is referencing the "tea bag" term not Obama.

Obliquely answering the hundreds of "tea bag" protests around the country on tax day, President Barack Obama said Wednesday that he's already delivered the most progressive tax cut in history, with 95% of families getting a tax break in every paycheck. Obama said Americans need a "government that is working to create jobs and opportunity for them, rather than simply giving more and more to those at the very top in the false hope that wealth will trickle down." In his remarks, Obama decried the use of taxes as a political wedge issue "to scare people into supporting policies that increased the burden on working people instead of helping them live their dreams."
 

natrone23

Well-Known Member
Whats wrong with calling these people "Teabag people" with Tea bags hanging off their hats and holding up tea bags.
 

notoriousb

Well-Known Member
[youtube]EjnJzNBka8o&feature=fvw[/youtube]

and if you dont have a problem with his past full of community organizing with criminal groups like ACORN, and his 5 minute political career in chicago which is notorious for corruption, then you really cant see the bigger picture.

and it's not a partisan issue. you have these progressives on both sides of the aisle. they said that Bush ruled with an iron fist, but Obama governs with the iron fist covered with satin glove. the iron fist is still there, this administration just has been good at keeping it hidden but the american people are starting to wake up and realize. and I recommend you should too before you wake up one morning and can't have any bacon because meat "adds to greenhouse gases"
 

Jack*Herrer420

Well-Known Member
Ok I am ready step back in the dumb fuck arena. Here are some of your points and my responses




“He has resorted to attacking American citizens, calling them tea baggers and has gone on a world tour to apologize to the world for our past.”




Please provide one article or video where obama called them teabaggers. Media and pundits may have done that but I have not seen Obama say anything like that. I have no problem with him apologizing for some of our past actions. No person or country is perfect. America to me is about as close as it gets but perfect it is not.




“He said his government would be transparent, and that he would include everybody in the decision making. So far, nothing has been transparent, he tried to sneak the healthcare bill past us, not giving us time to read it, and he himself admitting he hadn't read it. How could you support and try to pass something when you don't know what is involved?”




I agree with you on this point but its not new with Obama nor am I sure he is to blame. Very few congressmen/women read the patriot act for example and that was under Bush. I blame the congress and senate more than bush or obama.




“The democrats have locked the doors on republicans, and are up for no debate. They have a goal in mind, and will go through with it wether the American people want it or not.”




I think they are trying to work with republicans more than most presidents work with the other side. I remember when bush won he actually said “I have political capital and I am going to use it” meaning i dont care what anyone else thinks. That was especially apparent with the war in Iraq. Its hard for either of us to prove our point in this case because we are not there and in meetings listening to what happens.




“He has gone on more trips than any other president in history, and has accumalated the largest deficit in American history.”




Yes that is true but at least he is going to places to work and not play. Bush spent more time on vacation than any president and this was with 2 wars and economy tanking to name a few.




"Bush on track to become the vacation president," Julie Mason headlined in the August 9, 2007, edition of the Houston Chronicle:[1]




"On Thursday, Bush left for a weekend in Kennebunkport, Maine, and his family's summer compound, Walker's Point. On Monday, he heads to his Crawford retreat, where he has spent all or part of 418 days of his presidency, according to Mark Knoller, a CBS News White House correspondent and meticulous record-keeper.




"...The presidential vacation-time record holder is the late Ronald Reagan, who tallied 436 days in his two terms. At 418 days, and with 17 months to go in his presidency, Bush is going to beat that easily."






"Bush has spent more than a year of his presidency" at his ranch in Crawford, Texas. On August 19, 2005, "he broke Ronald Reagan's record of 335 days for America's most vacationed president and went on to take the longest presidential vacation in 36 years," Dale McFeatters wrote August 8, 2006, in a ScrippsNews editorial.




“His plans are rooted in marxist ideology.”



I disagree.




“Where in the constitution does it say that the government has the right to take from certain individuals and give to others? “




Man I have been getting screwed for years!!! I make more than my sister and I pay a higher tax than she does. I have been for years. As far as I can remember we have always had a progressive tax system. I didnt know it just started 9 months ago.




“That somehow raising taxes and passing policies that would devastate the average American is good for us. “




Which taxes have been raised and policies passed that have devastated the avg American?Which ones if not passed or implemented will do this? As for as taxes go, he is just going back to be very close to what Reagan had in place.




“but you have to look at the much bigger picture. like Obama's past and who and how his ideal were shaped.”




I have no problems with his past and what I have seen so far of his ideals.




“something like 14% of the entire 1 trillion for the stimulus has been spent. go look at when the majority of this money is to be spent and notice how it's all right around 2010 and 2012 elections. but didnt obama say that if we didnt pass the stimulus that we'd be in a situation we might not be able to get out of if we didnt take action? didnt he say that unemployment wouldnt pass 8% if we didnt pass the stimulus? and now they're out there lieing about jobs created by the stimulus and then after further investigation, the numbers turn out to be a "gross exaggeration."




Bush is the one that started the sky is falling and that if we dont do something then all hell would break lose. It was enough for Mccain to intrerupt his campaign. Yeah unemployment has gone higher and he always won't be right. He has said multiple times that jobs and unemployment rates are not close to where they should be. Bush wasnt always right either. “Mission Accomplished” and “We will be greeted as liberators” were a bit wrong and exaggerated too. My point is that if you expect someone to always be right then let me know when you find that utopia.




“and here's something to chew on. why does this administration not consider someone who shot 13 US soldiers dead in the name of islam and allah an "extremist" but they consider peaceful protesters extremists!!! what the fuck is that? the administration is afraid that the country is starting to wake up to their shell games.”





This is what I saw all over fox. I understand the anger and frustration at such senseless killing but why the need to shout from the rafters this was in the name of islam or allah? People were murdered. Will it come out that this was a islamic extremist? Very likely but why the need for it to be immediate. Things like columbine and virginia university happen and i dont hear people wanting to call them extremist. To me they are crazy. The data they have that hasan had been communicating with terroists happened before obama was president so why didnt the previous admin take action? Dont get me wrong on this one. I am deeply saddened by the deaths and injuries of the people there. I still have 3 family members in the military. An investigation is underway and if they have evidence this was an al qaeda like attack them fine... call him an islamic extremist.



“how did we survive all these years without health insurance and become the strongest power in the world????? “boggles the mind how we could have even done it without healthcare” “so since jesus time there has been no healthcare right? but now we should give it to everyone when our country is on the verge of fucking bankrupcy???????????”


Not since Jesus... We have healthcare it just doesnt work real well. I would love it if rather than having govt healthcare if we could just go to a doctor or hospital and pay a reasonable fee. But that is not the case and private insurance companies are just going to keep denying treatment or serivce while they raise your premiums if you are one of the ones that has insurance. Those that dont have insurance will continue to use the ER for more minor things and drive costs up. Bankruptcy is ok when spending billions on a war in Iraq? Are you against heath reform completely or just against gov run?




“ok and so im guessing life sucks for poeple without healthcare? or does life suck because your sick? i got nothing to do with why you got sick, maybe you ate too many lard burgers and your fat ass heart couldnt take it, thats your fault”


Lots of people get sick because of lifetsyle and fate. Its not your fault I agree. But sometimes its not theirs either. But I dont drive...should i pay for your roads. Another doesnt believe in war should they pay for your wars? Crucify my beliefs, its your right, but I do believe everyone should be able to see a doctor when they are sick and not have to loose their life savings because of it. I actually liked one of the ideas for healthcare reform where they were tossing around the idea of taxing junk food like alchohol and tobacco. People like Beck and Hannity went nuts saying dont tell us what to eat. My take is they are not telling you what to eat but rather if you are going to things that are going to cost tax payers down the road then you can payer a little higher sales tax now.




“love live america, but fuck you dumb fucks that wont take the time to look into things. youre like the people who just go out and buy a car without doing any research and then realize that you bought a lemon a couple months down the road. do some research on these people!”




Ok. Now proceed to calling me a dumb fuck.
1. Somebody already shared the link, so that is done. I agree no country is perfect, but what is he trying to prove by bringing up the past? I thought he said he was going to forget about the past and focus on the future of our country.
2. Obama campaigned on the premise of government transparency, people were excited about it. None of that has come to be.
3. Please show me some examples of how they are working with the other side. They have even said they would use the nuclear option to get their bill passed. They have enough democrats to pass this, but even some of them are taking a step back, because they see the american people don't want it. And the issue with the Iraq war, democrats voted for it to. It wasn't until Bush was up for re-election that the democrats changed their tune.
4. I know it's true, and your taking the whole 8 years of Bush, you don't think Obama is going to pass him up in the coming years?
5. Taking from the rich and giving to the poor is marxist ideology wether you believe it or not.
6. Obama may have not created the tax system, but he is doing all he can to ensure the greedy rich pay the poor. After all, it's not like they earned that money.
7. Well, the healthcare bill will raise taxes for all Americans, the cap and trade will raise taxes for all Americans, the stimulus and the cash for clunkers were disaster's. Please explain how Obama is going to match Reagan's tax policies.
I'll only post those response's for now considering they were directed at me.
 

pluto420

Active Member
1. Somebody already shared the link, so that is done. I agree no country is perfect, but what is he trying to prove by bringing up the past? I thought he said he was going to forget about the past and focus on the future of our country.
2. Obama campaigned on the premise of government transparency, people were excited about it. None of that has come to be.
3. Please show me some examples of how they are working with the other side. They have even said they would use the nuclear option to get their bill passed. They have enough democrats to pass this, but even some of them are taking a step back, because they see the american people don't want it. And the issue with the Iraq war, democrats voted for it to. It wasn't until Bush was up for re-election that the democrats changed their tune.
4. I know it's true, and your taking the whole 8 years of Bush, you don't think Obama is going to pass him up in the coming years?
5. Taking from the rich and giving to the poor is marxist ideology wether you believe it or not.
6. Obama may have not created the tax system, but he is doing all he can to ensure the greedy rich pay the poor. After all, it's not like they earned that money.
7. Well, the healthcare bill will raise taxes for all Americans, the cap and trade will raise taxes for all Americans, the stimulus and the cash for clunkers were disaster's. Please explain how Obama is going to match Reagan's tax policies.
I'll only post those response's for now considering they were directed at me.

my responses..and thanks for being civil in the discussion!

1. The link to the article and the video still don't prove anything to me. In neither did he call the people protesting tea baggers. In the video he mentions the people waving tea bags at protests which they were doing and is a true statement. He then went on to say he is ready to have a meaningful discussion with them if they have ideas to share.

2. I cant say anymore on this point than my original post.
I agree with you on this point but its not new with Obama nor am I sure he is to blame. Very few congressmen/women read the patriot act for example and that was under Bush. I blame the congress and senate more than bush or obama.

3. as i said in my original post that part is my opinion as is the fact that he is not is yours. its pretty hard to prove that one way or the other.

4. on vacation... no i dont;

5. so we have been a marxist country for a long time? Actually I would be all for tax reform in this country. too complicated of a system with too many loopholes for both rich and poor. I would support a flat tax or removing income tax and tax on goods purchased with things like food and shelter being taxed the lowest.

6. see op and #5 above.

7. if taxes do raise for hc but your premiums go down then it may not be that bad. I will admit I have not read enough of the bills being proposed to know about what you are saying here. I would welcome you or anyone to tell me more specifics about that because I just havent read all that yet.

I actually agree with you on cap and trade. Finally something ...lol

On Reagan..

Overall, Sen. Obama's middle-class tax cuts are larger than his partial rollbacks for families earning over $250,000, making the proposal as a whole a net tax cut and reducing revenues to less than 18.2% of GDP -- the level of taxes that prevailed under President Reagan. Wall Street Journal Aug 14 2008
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
ummmm President Obama never called them teabaggers..so I'm not understanding the last video...he just said that they waving teabags around ( which is very wasteful..come on make some damn sweet tea already )
 
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