Bubblelicious, New York Power Diesel, and Super Skunk in DWC

[Bob Smith]

sorry for the hijack bob. now back to his grow

Lol, not a hijack at all, my friend

Anything that can help me or anyone else out is fair game - I'm sure people are tired of my pagelong emails regarding wiring questions

Anywho, took a good look in the garage for the first time in a few days, and it looks like I might be able to take those clones sooner then I expected, hopefully within the next 5-7 days.

Also took the humidity dome off of the rockwool clones to see how they do (most are rooted, and the ones that aren't are not going to root) - FYI, haven't used any rooting enhancers as of yet, but will for my "real" run - have some powdered shit, but contemplating getting some Clonex.

Also, moved a bunch of the bigger plants down to the fluorescent area to let them get a little more space before they're all choppped into a million different clones and discarded.

Will take pics in a bit, still feeling drained from that interview.

Oh, the big boy ozone generator came today - not even my name on the package, just a number - seems a little overzealous on their part, but I'll take it.

Have some mold issues on a couple of the vegging plants in hydroton - it's a combination of not enough airflow and of throwing un-rooted clones in Rapid Rooters under a 400HPS and letting the algae/mold just take off - hit the reservoir with 1.5mL of H2O2/gallon, so we'll see how that helps out.

 

[rbahadosingh]

Lol, not a hijack at all, my friend

Anything that can help me or anyone else out is fair game - I'm sure people are tired of my pagelong emails regarding wiring questions

Anywho, took a good look in the garage for the first time in a few days, and it looks like I might be able to take those clones sooner then I expected, hopefully within the next 5-7 days.

Also took the humidity dome off of the rockwool clones to see how they do (most are rooted, and the ones that aren't are not going to root) - FYI, haven't used any rooting enhancers as of yet, but will for my "real" run - have some powdered shit, but contemplating getting some Clonex.

Also, moved a bunch of the bigger plants down to the fluorescent area to let them get a little more space before they're all choppped into a million different clones and discarded.

Will take pics in a bit, still feeling drained from that interview.

Oh, the big boy ozone generator came today - not even my name on the package, just a number - seems a little overzealous on their part, but I'll take it.

Have some mold issues on a couple of the vegging plants in hydroton - it's a combination of not enough airflow and of throwing un-rooted clones in Rapid Rooters under a 400HPS and letting the algae/mold just take off - hit the reservoir with 1.5mL of H2O2/gallon, so we'll see how that helps out.

i like clonex. it seems to work real good. but before that i was using root tone. that worked good as well. not sure which one is better.

 

[Bob Smith]

i like clonex. it seems to work real good. but before that i was using root tone. that worked good as well. not sure which one is better.

I've gotten along okay without using anything, but the issue I have is when taking miniature clones (like 1" in total) is that the stems aren't strong enough for me to push them down into the rockwool, so I was wondering if Clonex would help them "stay in contact" with the rockwool, as opposed to almost being suspended in air, which is when they won't root.

Obviously I could take bigger clones, but that's an option not readily available to me yet.

 

[laserbrn]

I've gotten along okay without using anything, but the issue I have is when taking miniature clones (like 1" in total) is that the stems aren't strong enough for me to push them down into the rockwool, so I was wondering if Clonex would help them "stay in contact" with the rockwool, as opposed to almost being suspended in air, which is when they won't root.

Obviously I could take bigger clones, but that's an option not readily available to me yet.

Find something to help you push that into the rockwool or cut a slit in the side of the rockwool cube, slide the little "miniature clone" into and put a rubber band around the outside of the cube to hold the slit closed. Once it roots you can take the rubber band off and voila you're good to go. The rubber band will usually get all f*ed up by the moisture anyway and you'll be ready to take it off.

 

[Bob Smith]

Haven't updated because there really hasn't been much to speak of - flowering plants all look the same as weeks ago, save for the ones directly under the light, which have started a second growth spurt in the past couple weeks.

Also, sucks to not be able to sample anything because of having to stay clean for possible upcoming drug tests, but my girl's done some sampling for me and all seems well.

Also, if anyone has any clever names for the next journal of 144, I'm all ears (gonna start that one up in a week or two, once the clones fully root).

Anyways, a few points before I post pics:

1) Think I'm gonna flower 36 each of Bubblelicous and the Indica clones under my 400 in a few weeks - since the garage is gonna be totally closed down for a while (guessing the better part of a month), might as well get everything I can out of it now, methinks.

Hell, I might even flower plants under the fluoros on the bottom, and just use that fluffy bud to make hash and kief out of; might as well, right?

2) Since I've decided on #1, need to build some sort of a "Bob's Arc" to keep my genetics alive for the next ~4 months - don't care what they look like or how they're cared for, just don't wanna have to start from seed again once I'm up and running - thinking a simple plywood box with some fluoros and in dirt ("yuck") should do the trick, but I'm open to suggestions.

3) Decided that I'm going with all Super Skunk for this upcoming run of 144 - with a grow like this, everything's gonna have to be fairly precise, which isn't achievable using different genetics with different growth rates; also, the Super Skunk are fucking vigorous, can't wait to flower them out.

4) Emptied out the fllowering rez for the first time a couple of days ago and refilled with tap (there were probably 5 gallons left in the bottom, but not sweating it) - have never before and don't ever again plan on flushing, but figured it couldn't hurt - not sure if I'm imagining it or not, but the smell in the tent seems even stronger now.

5) Last point, and if any mod or anyone like that has an issue with it, I'll certainly take it down - for those who have been helpful in my grow (you know who you are), I've got ~100 clones from last run that I've got no use for and are free to a good home - PM me if interested.

Without further ado, here's some pics........





Some of the extra clones from last run - as you can see, they're all well-rooted.






The 196 Super Skunk clones I took today - holy fuck what a job that was. Used rooting powder this time, and feel pretty good about them. Hoping that when I take the tops off for the first time in about a week that a lot of them will have already rooted.

Figure 10-12 days to root, then veg under fluoros for another 3-5 days to pick out the best 144, then veg for 2-4 days under the 1K - puts me starting flowering right around 2.14.10.






First pick is a bubblelicous clone, second and third are pics of the right side of the veg tent which is an absolute rain forest, and the last pick is for someone wondering if I'll be okay flowering in 4" pots - that NYPD is 2.5' tall and the roots aren't even struggling to come out of the pot.



New ozone generator - I just let the fucker run 24/7, doesn't seem to be doing a spot of bother to me or the plants. Have his little brother running constantly right next to him as well.






Random flower shots, not a lot to see. Still planning on cutting on Sunday, and gonna dry in the tent for ~5 days, methinks. Then cure for a bit and that's that.

 

[statik]

Damn Bob, those girls have packed on a bit havent they? Looking good buddy, all considered. I'm popping over to my grow in just a bit here. Hoping to see some good progress. Wish I was a bit closer, I'd take a few of them cuttings off your hand.

 

[rbahadosingh]

looking good bob.

 

[goofygolfer]

i just reread your entire gj .props for stickin with it. looking nice girls puttin on some wt. you should have a nice harvest .

 

[cazador]

Bob, I see your still using you CO2 tanks and not using the Gen1 yet. If I remember correctly you set it up once and ran through the LP quickly. I think you thought you had a gas leak or something? Is this correct? I am seeing similar things happen. I did not keep track of how long the gen1 ran before running out of fuel and not sure how full the tank was but it seems that it burned up the LP a lot faster than I would have thought. I'm going to have to do some calculations but something isn't adding up here. I thought a tank of LP would last for a month or more. What's wrong here?

I'll do some math> Lets say the gen-1 burns for 5 min every 20 min that's 25 mins/12h=28.8 times the gen goes on for 5 min which = 2.4h a day that the gen-1 is running. (obviously the room needs to be better seaded and heat better managed to hold onto the CO2 longer.)

The Dept. of Energy says 91,330. The American Gas Association says 91,600. BTUs per gallon of LPG
The gen-1 with 4 burners is rated at 11,178 BTUs

91,330BTUs per gallon X 4 gallon tank = 365,320BTUs
365,320BTUs(4 gals LP)/11,178 BTUs(gen-1 output)=32.7hours burn time
32.7hours burn time/2.4 hours a day=13.6 days

so it looks like a 4 Gallon tank of LP only lasts 13.6 days if burning for 2.4 hours a day.
I guess the room it is running in needs to be sealed up better. Time to look into a A/C unit.


My other observation of the gen-1 is it is HOT. When it runs the flames are blocked by a steal plate and then the metal cover. When the gen-1 turn off it still radiates quite a bit of heat for quite some time.

Bob, I like your Idea about running the gen-1 outside the room and piping in the CO2. I think you did it because of space but I like the idea. Take air from the room through the gen-1 and back to the room CO2 enriched. Leaving the hot unit outside. Sorry for the ramble but I know you are working towards this as well so I thought we could work it out together.

 

[Bob Smith]

Caz, I'm kinda still working on that, but it's admittedly on the back burner - there's three ways it could go.

1) If and when I expand to an 8x8 tent, I'd find a way for the generator to be in there (which is why I like the extra space inside the tent, as the footprint will only be 6x6). Would have an AC inside the tent as well, so heat wouldn't be that much of a concern, and even if I'm still running off of propane, it should last me for a few weeks to a month on a 20# tank, which is "acceptable" to me.

2) If I get a natural gas line run to the garage, then I'd basically have the exact same setup that you see in the video and the pics - wouldn't be worried about running out of propane, and natural gas is mucho cheaper, so that would work for me, regardless of what size/shape tent I plan to use. This is probably the best option as of this minute.

3) For some reason I don't expand and don't take the time to get a natural gas line run to the garage, then I'd just use the generator setup I have in the pics during the wintertime (added heat is a bonus), and continue to use tanks during the summertime.

But as far as spending a heckuva lot more time trying to figure out where the propane is leaking and/or building a special box for the generator and/or things of that nature, I'm kinda over it.

 

[Bob Smith]

My dispensary is really on my back about getting my product to market, and for a flat $450/ounce price of as much as I get can him, it's kinda hard to turn down.

That being said, I'm chopping tomorrow, and here's the gameplan (just got back from shopping):

1) Empty out the rez, and remove that, the plants, and the tray from the tent (will get some nice pics of the the plants before they're chopped in "normal" light).

2) I bought a 48" by 84" fiberglass screen from home depot, which I'm going to cut down to 48x48 and nail (temporarily, not permanently) to my table stand, which will hold all the trimmed weed and clippings (planning on making hash or something like that).

3) Gonna bump the heat up to 85 and get the RH down as much as I can via the Sentinel, and hopefully dry them within two or three days.

4) Got some "cracker jars" from Walmart for curing them for a week, and then they're going to be delivered on Super Bowl Sunday.

FYI, I found some spring-loaded scissors at Walmart for $12 that look identical to the $30 ones at the hydro store, if anyone's interested.

I'll post the final weight (just subtract four ounces from whatever I say, because I'm gonna lie ) and a post about things I could've/should've done differently, and then I believe this thread's a wrap - again, thanks so much to all the people who helped my dumbass along the way

I'll post a link to the next one here as well, and hopefully that will be a bit of a more "successful" (yield-wise) grow, although in hindsight, even if I only come out with a few ounces, I consider this grow to be a "success".

 

[smokingrubber]

450 a zip OMG. Now I KNOW you're not in Cali LFAO! I can get $300 a zip or $3200-$3400 a lb. ... I need to drive out and visit you Bob ... see ya in a couple weeks buddy

 

[statik]

Can't wait to see the chop pics Bob. Last pic update I saw they were looking pretty good.

 

[Bob Smith]

450 a zip OMG. Now I KNOW you're not in Cali LFAO! I can get $300 a zip or $3200-$3400 a lb. ... I need to drive out and visit you Bob ... see ya in a couple weeks buddy

Lol..........I'm just in the real dry part of Cali.............and yeah, pretty stoked to chop - anyone got any guesses? I honestly have no fugging clue........best guess would be 6 ounces (pathetic, I know), but I wouldn't be shocked if I hit like 10 or 12 either.........

Also, anyone have any thoughts/comments about the drying method that I'm planning on?

EDIT: Smoking, if you feel like taking a drive and it's good product, it'll all be presold before you even get here..........it's like that around these parts.

 

[Integra21]

My dispensary is really on my back about getting my product to market, and for a flat $450/ounce price of as much as I get can him, it's kinda hard to turn down.

That being said, I'm chopping tomorrow, and here's the gameplan (just got back from shopping):

1) Empty out the rez, and remove that, the plants, and the tray from the tent (will get some nice pics of the the plants before they're chopped in "normal" light).

2) I bought a 48" by 84" fiberglass screen from home depot, which I'm going to cut down to 48x48 and nail (temporarily, not permanently) to my table stand, which will hold all the trimmed weed and clippings (planning on making hash or something like that).

3) Gonna bump the heat up to 85 and get the RH down as much as I can via the Sentinel, and hopefully dry them within two or three days.

4) Got some "cracker jars" from Walmart for curing them for a week, and then they're going to be delivered on Super Bowl Sunday.

FYI, I found some spring-loaded scissors at Walmart for $12 that look identical to the $30 ones at the hydro store, if anyone's interested.

I'll post the final weight (just subtract four ounces from whatever I say, because I'm gonna lie ) and a post about things I could've/should've done differently, and then I believe this thread's a wrap - again, thanks so much to all the people who helped my dumbass along the way

I'll post a link to the next one here as well, and hopefully that will be a bit of a more "successful" (yield-wise) grow, although in hindsight, even if I only come out with a few ounces, I consider this grow to be a "success".

Sounds like a good deal. Are they done? Hows the trichs looking. I wouldnt want to see them turn you down because it was cut premature. On a side note, you sound kinda defeated bob. What happened? I cant see what you see, but the girls look like they are doing pretty good. As long as you end up with some pretty good herb, doesnt really matter what didnt go right along the way, you just keep doing what you're doing and make whatever improvements you can along the way. Looking forward to seeing the new big round of small guys. Would love to grab some clones, but I dont think they'd make it through shipping with the temps around here and you're definetly too far to go pick them up. But that is a vary generous offer. Hopefully they find a good home.

 

[Integra21]

Lol..........I'm just in the real dry part of Cali.............and yeah, pretty stoked to chop - anyone got any guesses? I honestly have no fugging clue........best guess would be 6 ounces (pathetic, I know), but I wouldn't be shocked if I hit like 10 or 12 either.........

Also, anyone have any thoughts/comments about the drying method that I'm planning on?

EDIT: Smoking, if you feel like taking a drive and it's good product, it'll all be presold before you even get here..........it's like that around these parts.

only concern is that rush drying will greatly reduce the quality of the herb. Doesnt give enough time for the chlorophyll to properly break down and will make the smoke harsher.

 

[Bob Smith]

Sounds like a good deal. Are they done? Hows the trichs looking. I wouldnt want to see them turn you down because it was cut premature. On a side note, you sound kinda defeated bob. What happened? I cant see what you see, but the girls look like they are doing pretty good. As long as you end up with some pretty good herb, doesnt really matter what didnt go right along the way, you just keep doing what you're doing and make whatever improvements you can along the way. Looking forward to seeing the new big round of small guys. Would love to grab some clones, but I dont think they'd make it through shipping with the temps around here and you're definetly too far to go pick them up. But that is a vary generous offer. Hopefully they find a good home.

I tried using one of those Radio Shack thingies ten years ago and it just gave me a headache, and I haven't messed with it since - I just go by hairs, and 70-90% of them are brown, which to me indicates that it's time to chop (save for the diesel, which could certainly use another week, but no one's gonna be able to tell anyways).

Sorry if I sounded defeated, certainly wasn't my intention - even tried to qualify that I'll be pleased with whatever I end up getting; just know it could've been more.

But the overwhelming feeling is pleased that this journey is coming to an end, and hopefully I've learned enough to make the next one even better.

No regrets at all - gotta learn from our mistakes

 

[Bob Smith]

only concern is that rush drying will greatly reduce the quality of the herb. Doesnt give enough time for the chlorophyll to properly break down and will make the smoke harsher.

I'll start this off with "I'm no expert", but everything I read (mainly Al B. Fuct, who I hold in the HIGHEST regard) by people I respect says that drying times play no effect on the quality of herb.

Check out Al B. Fuct's Bud Dryer thread, it's pretty cool (and something I'll have to make should I ever go "really" perpetual).

Okay, time to go workout before I pick my lady up - trying to lose forty pounds (of fat, and replace 20 with muscle) this year - somehow (eating too much and not working out enough) I've turned into a flabby mess.

 

[Integra21]

I tried using one of those Radio Shack thingies ten years ago and it just gave me a headache, and I haven't messed with it since - I just go by hairs, and 70-90% of them are brown, which to me indicates that it's time to chop (save for the diesel, which could certainly use another week, but no one's gonna be able to tell anyways).

Sorry if I sounded defeated, certainly wasn't my intention - even tried to qualify that I'll be pleased with whatever I end up getting; just know it could've been more.

But the overwhelming feeling is pleased that this journey is coming to an end, and hopefully I've learned enough to make the next one even better.

No regrets at all - gotta learn from our mistakes

Good, didnt want to see one of the good guys losing his drive. Forgot to mention, my co2 gen hasnt been a dream either. Having 2 major problems. I dont know what Kind of air leak I have, but the minigen struggles to keep my ppms above 1400 even though it shouldnt, and I am getting major condensation on the water lines and inside the unit from the tap water being so cold. I am thinking of just hooking it up to a 5 gal bucket with my inline pump, and I'm hoping that the ppm problem is from the tank being out in the garage and beeing freezing cold. Which if it is like any other compressed gas, greatly effects pressure and might not be getting the full output from the generator. On the upside though, it is a very small burner and runs pretty much nonstop during lights on, but havent finished off the tank after 5 days. If you were still considering Hydrogen, I would go with the regular adjustable unit, and cool it with a res. Any other info you'd like about mine, just ask.

 

[smokingrubber]

Sweet info on the Hydrogen. You're the first I know of having it. How much heat does it produce? Could it be installed directly inside the tent (on a wood wall) without burning it down? Im considering one for my remodel ... open loop vs closed loop debate continues.