Issues With Prop 19 Solved! Now we can all Support it.

[jfa916]

legalize marijuana everywere

 

[REALSTYLES]

legalize marijuana everywere

Where in Cali do you live?

 

[Dan Kone]

Prop 19 will override decriminalization. It will amend the law, in that exact area.

Correct. It will change the penalty for having 1 ounce or less from $100 ticket to legal with no penalty. Growing however has not been decriminalized.

 

[gupp]

2012 there will be a better prop so don't go out and vote yes until you see "legalization" not taxation on the proposal. And if you can show me where it says legalized on this prop 19 I'll vote yes but for now it's not!!!

ok, heres the link to the text of prop 19:
http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/asm/ab_0001-0050/abx6_9_bill_20100921_introduced.html
and here's a relevant quote for you.

T o remove all existing civil and criminal penalties for
persons 21 years of age or older who personally cultivate, possess,
process, share, or transport a limited amount of marijuana, solely
for that individual's personal consumption in a residence or other
nonpublic place, including premises licensed for that purpose, and
not for resale, without impacting existing laws proscribing dangerous
activities while under the influence of marijuana, or certain
conduct that exposes younger persons to marijuana.

The certain amount being currently a pound right now. The law is long, its late, cant think....hope it helps.

As an interesting side note the law currently allows you to grow plants (in a 25 square foot area) and not have them be taxed...at all, as long as they are for personal consumption.- it's legal to share it too with somebody over 21 as long as it is not for resale.

Correct. It will change the penalty for having 1 ounce or less from $100 ticket to legal with no penalty. Growing however has not been decriminalized.

I'm fairly certain growing is legalized.
http://www.taxandregulate.org/prop19anchors.html#11300share
a) Notwithstanding any other provision of law,it is lawful and shall not be a public offense under California law for any person 21 years of age or older to:
(ii) Cultivate, on private property by the owner, lawful occupant, or other lawful resident or guest of the private property owner or lawful occupant, cannabis plants for personal consumption only, in an area of not more than twenty-five square feet per private residence or, in the absence of any residence, the parcel. Cultivation on leased or rented property may be subject to approval from the owner of the property. Provided that, nothing in this section shall permit unlawful or unlicensed cultivation of cannabis on any public lands.

It's an older version. Can't find it in the new one (See previous link), but I'm not sure if it is still included, or not.
Edit: yes, you can legally grow a 25 square foot area, I was looking at the wrong bill.
Anyway, it is late, time to sign off.

 

[Dan Kone]

Prop 19 is a joke a fairytale Pandora's box. I was charged with a wobbler (felony/misdemeanor) for possession of a gram of has and I had my doctors rec march of this year. Now I'm on 3 years formal probation. So if you think 19 is gonna stop the arrests your wrong

If prop 19 passes, what you did will no longer even be illegal. So what are you talking about? Cops are just going to walk up to you and send you to prison for something legal? no dude.

And you can't get a felony for possession of a gram. That's not possible. Something doesn't add up there.

 

[REALSTYLES]

ok, heres the link to the text of prop 19:
http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/asm/ab_0001-0050/abx6_9_bill_20100921_introduced.html
and here's a relevant quote for you.

To remove all existing civil and criminal penalties for
persons 21 years of age or older who personally cultivate, possess,
process, share, or transport a limited amount of marijuana, solely
for that individual's personal consumption in a residence or other
nonpublic place, including premises licensed for that purpose, and
not for resale, without impacting existing laws proscribing dangerous
activities while under the influence of marijuana, or certain
conduct that exposes younger persons to marijuana.

The certain amount being currently a pound right now. The law is long, its late, cant think....hope it helps.

I read that and no where does it state legalization don't be fooled. if you think it's gonna be legal and not controlled then let me sell you some swamp land in Florida or maybe you won the Canadian sweepstakes of a $10,000,000 you just gotta pay me $5,000 to clear the taxes

 

[Dan Kone]

removed

Something you might be interested. A group of congressmen right now are in the early stages of writing a bill that expunges the record of anyone convicted of possession, releasing everyone in jail for possession, and retroactively ending all penalties for those convicted of possession. That only applies to those convicted of strait possession (not intent to sell) and it's by no means a sure thing yet. Just thought you might be interested.

 

[mccumcumber]

Fun fact! You actually can get arrested for having a gram of hash. It's considered a condensed narcotic. Prop 19 actually states that hash is not a condensed narcotic, so... Realstyles! You could get your current probation dropped! Seems like a good incentive for you. If you can't afford a lawyer though nevermind, the legal battle that you would have to fight would be way too hard to do on your own.

 

[REALSTYLES]

If prop 19 passes, what you did will no longer even be illegal. So what are you talking about? Cops are just going to walk up to you and send you to prison for something legal? no dude.

And you can't get a felony for possession of a gram. That's not possible. Something doesn't add up there.

a gram of hash is a felony read the california health and safety code

 

[REALSTYLES]

funny thing is June of 09 had cop in my house with 6 plants growing and they asked if I had my rec I did and they didn't do shit and it was bigger than 5 x 5 if prop 19 passes I can only grow 1 plant my last grow I had 1 plant that was 5 feet wide



https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/364056-indoor-monster-plant.html

 

[gupp]

I read that and no where does it state legalization don't be fooled. if you think it's gonna be legal and not controlled then let me sell you some swamp land in Florida or maybe you won the Canadian sweepstakes of a $10,000,000 you just gotta pay me $5,000 to clear the taxes

Can you please explain what you mean by legalization, then?

funny thing is June of 09 had cop in my house with 6 plants growing and they asked if I had my rec I did and they didn't do shit and it was bigger than 5 x 5 if prop 19 passes I can only grow 1 plant my last grow I had 1 plant that was 5 feet wide

mm. you will still receive the benefits of prop 215. If its legal under 215, its legal under prop 19.

 

[Dan Kone]

funny thing is June of 09 had cop in my house with 6 plants growing and they asked if I had my rec I did and they didn't do shit and it was bigger than 5 x 5 if prop 19 passes I can only grow 1 plant my last grow I had 1 plant that was 5 feet wide

Nah dude. The limits don't apply to medical patients. Prop 19 is about recreational use.

 

[gupp]

a gram of hash is a felony read the california health and safety code

He's saying the hashish is removed as it isn't listed anymore.

Edit:

"Marijuana" and "cannabis" are interchangeable terms that mean all parts of the plant Genus Cannabis, whether growing or not; the resin extracted from any part of the plant; concentrated cannabis; edible products containing same; and every active compound, manufacture, derivative, or preparation of the plant, or resin.

Since it isn't a felony anymore, a charge could be dropped...

(I think so at least, not a lawyer.)

 

[Dan Kone]

since it isn't a felony anymore, a felony charge could be droppped.

Unfortunately it's not going to work like that. But if prop 19 passes it won't be a felony if you get busted for that after the election. However as I mentioned there is a group of congressmen working to retroactively eliminate all cannabis possession related charges and clear everyone's record. If that passes, then his record would be clean and the probation would end.

 

[homer371]

Hey California-dwelling Prop 19 supporters:

Here's something you can put on your window sills on Halloween night and spread the good word...



took me an hour to make

 

[mae]

It was an hour well spent!

 

[beardo]

Correct. It will change the penalty for having 1 ounce or less from $100 ticket to legal with no penalty. Growing however has not been decriminalized.

And it changes the penalty for 18 year olds who smoke with their friends to a 3-5 year prison sentence

 

[vradd]

you stole my idea!!

so whats been going on the last 23 pages? someone wanna give me cliffnotes

 

[beardo]

If prop 19 passes, what you did will no longer even be illegal. So what are you talking about? Cops are just going to walk up to you and send you to prison for something legal? no dude.

And you can't get a felony for possession of a gram. That's not possible. Something doesn't add up there.

Again your wrong

 

[beardo]

Fun fact! You actually can get arrested for having a gram of hash. It's considered a condensed narcotic. Prop 19 actually states that hash is not a condensed narcotic, so... Realstyles! You could get your current probation dropped! Seems like a good incentive for you. If you can't afford a lawyer though nevermind, the legal battle that you would have to fight would be way too hard to do on your own.

They won't drop his probation if 19 passes and hash will still be subject to the LEO's discression as far as legality.