...24 hours prior to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s murder

Serapis

Serapis

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IOWNEVERY1 said:
I was talking to UnlceBuck who said "but hey, i'm sure you're talking point goes well at all your rallies, meetings and cross burnings, eh? do tell, do you guys still do lynchings?"


Statistics are statistics they are either right or wrong it doesn't matter the view point of the author. The sources of the pdf come from reputable sources such as the FBI so it being made up is complete BS. Slavery is over, whites of later generations are paying a price for something I have no relation too. I did not own a slave nor take part in slavery. Why should I be punished. By the way who is this guy you speak of that preaches segregation and wrote this pdf i showed you?
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You cited the damn source! You don't know anything about the author or the American Rennaisance affair they host every year? Why would you toss out a pdf report, that excludes the author's or groups name or affiliation, without at least researching the report? You went to google and found the first thing that you thought supported your argument. The report was put together by a racist group that considers humans to be tribal, and needing to be with their own kind (color). Google your report and dig a little deeper.

I'm willing to bet you join the group, as they seem right up your alley. They view all of our woes as originating with the blacks. For every problem in society, they have an accussation against the black communnity. They are bigots.
 
thedoc08

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Serapis said:
You cited the damn source! You don't know anything about the author or the American Rennaisance affair they host every year? Why would you toss out a pdf report, that excludes the author's or groups name or affiliation, without at least researching the report? You went to google and found the first thing that you thought supported your argument. The report was put together by a racist group that considers humans to be tribal, and needing to be with their own kind (color). Google your report and dig a little deeper.

I'm willing to bet you join the group, as they seem right up your alley. They view all of our woes as originating with the blacks. For every problem in society, they have an accussation against the black communnity. They are bigots.
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The bottom line with his statistics is if they're cited correctly you should be able to match source to stats and the compiler of those stats personal views should be irrelevant. Just say that the stats are correct and the disparity is because cops don't like black people (that one isn't played out yet, is it?).
 
UncleBuck

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in the last week, there has been a thread which became a hotbed for anti-homosexuality views, a thread which became a hotbed for anti-immigration views (although a few of the posters often slipped and turned it into an anti-mexicans thread), and now this thread, which started as a tribute to mlk on his national holiday, and quickly devolved into an anti-blacks thread.

what the fuck is wrong with potheads?
 
IOWNEVERY1

IOWNEVERY1

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Serapis said:
You cited the damn source! You don't know anything about the author or the American Rennaisance affair they host every year? Why would you toss out a pdf report, that excludes the author's or groups name or affiliation, without at least researching the report? You went to google and found the first thing that you thought supported your argument. The report was put together by a racist group that considers humans to be tribal, and needing to be with their own kind (color). Google your report and dig a little deeper.

I'm willing to bet you join the group, as they seem right up your alley. They view all of our woes as originating with the blacks. For every problem in society, they have an accussation against the black communnity. They are bigots.
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i love how you completely ignored the stats which I presented to you, yes i don't know who the author is but does this mean the sources are wrong? Just because the author has certain views doesn't mean they are wrong. You can continue to argue a worthless argument about how i am some type of racist bastard but until you answer to the stats I have nothing else to say. your trying to avoid the stats that i provided and blab on about me. Just as the doc has said personal views are irrelevant.
 
UncleBuck

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IOWNEVERY1 said:
Just as the doc has said personal views are irrelevant.
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no they aren't.

a biased author will generally produce a biased report.

riddle me this, genius: why do you believe higher levels of melanin lead to higher levels of crime? what is the connection between a skin pigment and the tendency towards crime?

is it possible that there is NO connection between the two, but rather OTHER factors at work? things like a history of segregation, discrimination, institutionalized racism, oppression, and violence? do you think that might have anything to do with it?

for the record, i never called you a racist. i asked you a legitimate question about whether or not you lynch black people. i am serious. you sound like the type.

if you find the time between calculating propulsion ratios to answer my questions concerning the direct causal relationship between skin pigments and crime rates, i promise to stop thinking of you as an antebellum jacksonian type.

otherwise, your level of reasoning in blaming crime on skin color is beyond absurd and tells me all i nee to know about you.
 
thedoc08

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riddle me this, genius: why do you believe higher levels of melanin lead to higher levels of crime? what is the connection between a skin pigment and the tendency towards crime?

is it possible that there is NO connection between the two, but rather OTHER factors at work? things like a history of segregation, discrimination, institutionalized racism, oppression, and violence? do you think that might have anything to do with it?
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These factors don't change the statistics though, objectivity is all we're arguing.
 
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don2009

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I Love MLK and all that he did for this country, I seen an India lady married to a Chinesse guy lol Only in America thanks MLK for all your done to this great country my favorite hero of all time. I love all you guys.
 
Serapis

Serapis

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IOWNEVERY1 said:
i love how you completely ignored the stats which I presented to you, yes i don't know who the author is but does this mean the sources are wrong? Just because the author has certain views doesn't mean they are wrong. You can continue to argue a worthless argument about how i am some type of racist bastard but until you answer to the stats I have nothing else to say. your trying to avoid the stats that i provided and blab on about me. Just as the doc has said personal views are irrelevant.
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Scroll up and read Uncle Buc's last post....

Why am I going to even review the report and it's slant? I know the source is completely, biased.... That makes the report slanted, virtually useless. The problem with statistics is, they don't show us a complete picture and they are easy to use out of context, ask anybody who passed statistics in college. For every statistic you cite on a subject, I can find and cite one that explains away yours, or presents different data entirely.
 
thedoc08

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Serapis said:
Scroll up and read Uncle Buc's last post....

Why am I going to even review the report and it's slant? I know the source is completely, biased.... That makes the report slanted, virtually useless. The problem with statistics is, they don't show us a complete picture and they are easy to use out of context, ask anybody who passed statistics in college. For every statistic you cite on a subject, I can find and cite one that explains away yours, or presents different data entirely.
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I passed stats. Sans sampling/survey errors, they don't really touch on anything that fits into your criteria for what you want someone that passed stats to say to this fella. It was all kinds of whack functions and variance and prob. distributions. Besides "a biased author will generally produce a biased report," UB didn't claim anything about the numbers being off, he just went on about how the crime/race disparity is caused by the white man keeping a brother down.

@......... do you have any hot cocoa?
 
UncleBuck

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thedoc08 said:
Besides "a biased author will generally produce a biased report," UB didn't claim anything about the numbers being off, he just went on about how the crime/race disparity is caused by the white man keeping a brother down.
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i don't even have to review that report to indict the conclusion it supposedly reached, which is that 'blacks are more prone to crime than whites'.

i'm sure if we took a whole bunch of people and painted them blue, removed them by force from their home, sold them into slavery (separating small children from their parents in the process), treated them as 3/5th of a person, eventually gave them their freedom but kept them from voting through roundabout methods, segregated their schools, systematically denied them opportunities (both economic/financial as well as social), and mired them in an incredibly tough to break cycle of poverty, i bet we would see higher rates of crime among the blue people.

you say you passed stats...ever pas sociology or social psychology?

if you think crime is correlated with ONLY skin color and has nothing to do with socioeconomic status, you are deluded and not worthy of serious debate.
 
thedoc08

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sociology or social psychology?
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No, I took real classes.
if you think crime is correlated with ONLY skin color and has nothing to do with socioeconomic status, you are deluded and not worthy of serious debate.
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This quote and the big block of text in the middle just reiterated what I said. Nobody on my side is saying that the Africans selling their own people out into slavery and the future turmoil for the blacks is not the cause of their significantly higher crime rates today. That would be just as much of an inviolable hypothesis as me saying that early negro music and later rap instilled a desire to fulfill the stereotype of nonconformity perpetuated by icons of their own race. There are no numbers to back up either claim, the only numbers that we have are that per capita African Americans are convicted of committing more crimes than whites, you can make correlations all day, but they don't change the objective facts. If you bother to respond instead of just ducking out again, please don't repeat yourself for a 4th time.

Thanks,
Doc
 
Serapis

Serapis

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What does all of this have to do with honoring a civil rights leader like MLK? Would you rather we bestow the honor on the Reverand Al Sharpton?

MLK was a hero to many people, black, white, brown, yellow, etc.....

Listen to his speeches, he never singles out blacks, he speaks for the equality of all men.

Our very own forefathers wrote in ink that All men were created equal, as long as they were men and they were white....
 
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