Libya: No Fly Zone is a Go! International Effort and No Troops on the Ground

[Mellowman2112]

Except... there's all that oil... just sitting around... We must liberate the oil!

IF we pumped that shit dry maybe it would all be worth it. We didnt do so in Iraq. We just blew a trillion or two of borrowed money with only body bags to show for it. IF we do pump it dry exxon gets to make all those profits. Who owns exxon? The Rockefellers. We are sitting on enough natural gas to run our country for centuries and no one is proposing modifying cars to run on it. Common sense it not part of their master plan for us.

 

[Mellowman2112]

You know you need to stop an uprising before it takes hold...like we do in the U.S.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/19/antiwar-protesters-arrest_n_838031.html

Beardo knows what's up.

 

[Mellowman2112]

I will call Bush names starting with fucking murderer. Then Liar, then embezzler. All factual!

He Invaded Iraq on a false premise and enriched his buddies at Halliburton and his buddy skull and bones banker friends with a ton of debt he piled on our shoulders. The scary thing is they are so cocky they didnt even try to do a decent job of covering it up.

As far as Obama goes he is just a finger puppet. I am sure Rockefeller or Rothschild or whoever has his hand up Obamas ass directing him to do whatever he wants.

I appreciate that sentiment, and I feel the same. I do stand by my principles however, regardless. As for nicknames of the previous president, I did not engage in any name calling nor did i have a nick name for him. Besides being disrespectful, it serves no positive purpose, other than to divide the nation. I'm sure others used choice words to describe his failed policies and inept decisions, but you will never catch me calling him names. But I understand your point...

 

[Mellowman2112]

Things are taking a bad turn. Gaddafi is arming civillians in an effort to crush the rebellion. He has opened arms depos to any civilian willing to fight.

I hope Quadafi retains his country. I have had enough of this shit.

 

[Mellowman2112]

I dont believe Libya has a central bank. They want to install one there as the only other holdouts are Cuba and a few others. So the coalition is just following it's masters wishes. Libya had great growth because they mint their own money and dont start out borrowing from private bankers. The Bankers can't be having that. Central Bankers make the money out of thin air and loan it to governments. That is the biggest fuckjob of the millenium. Before the Federal Reserve was created we had no income tax. That was created to pay the Reserve Bankers.

Having lots of rich sweet crude of course hasnt hurt Libya either.

REBELS are the ones fed up an want a cut of the oil
Before the riots started, the country’s economy is booming. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) said Libya’s economy last year grew 10.6 percent and is projected to grow 6.2 percent this year.
However, one of the reasons for the protests of the people who want Muammar Gaddafi’s retreat is that oil wealth does not trickle up to the general population. According to some estimates, as quoted by the BBC, about a third of Libya’s population live in poverty

tell me who wouldnt Rebel if your country was doin this and you lived in poverty but guess what being a rebel is wrong theres always 2 sides of A story and for most we dont get to much real indepth of whats really happening being NEWS is censored they only will release what the government wants you to know thats it thats all

just think things sure hit the Fan when wikii leaks came out huh how usa wants his head lot more shit goin on in the real world that were never goin to know about

just think about it this way a asteriod coming to hit earth you think there goin to announce it ??
or a all out nuclear war only thing you might here is a alarm go off but dude thats it

how about during world war 2 when stalin, churchill rosevelt were already re -designing borders of countrys war still goin on an what gave them the right etc what would you do if someone walked to your door of your house and said you got 5 mins get ur shit out or you die LEAVE now
we should all consider ourselfs lucky

years back i drilled over seas ( kuwait , russia etc ) to go into these places where you see armed personel tanks to even leave my compound i had 6 armed body guards etc is not a pretty place most of civillians only see this goin to a airshow here
i just forgot one piece of my Id at airport and had a Ak47 at my head for 4 fckin hrs laying nose down on the tarmac

 

[Mellowman2112]

Tip Top knows what is up. The Central Bankers run the world. They have all the money they could ever want. They own the printing presses. They own the NEWS.
They do this for an ego boost. A power thing. And when they are ready they will exterminate all of us chipping only the docile ones and if you get out of line they will turn off your chip and you will starve to death. It is all about power. Wake up people. I will probably be picked up someday in the not to distant future and locked away in Guantanamo for this post under the so called Patriot Act OR sent to some camp and worked to death.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1263677258215075609#

And oil is so different from the banks? Last i looked RBS and co FUCKED the UK utterly and totally, the population had to bail them out against their will, only to find the bkaners take that money and just divvy it out between themselves. So again, where is our foreign invasion coming to help us? Then as a result of the banks fucking us over so much, we then face tax increase, tuitiopng fee increase, budget cuts, budget cuts, fine increases, food price increases, fuel price increases. How is their situation any different to ours? They're robnbing us of our livelihoods and money and hope. Someone needs to bomb the shit out of the banks. And it's not like we don't have good numbers of folk living in "poverty" either, which tied in with the banks fucking us, massively increased benefit dependancy further fucking up the country. Where the fuck is my bomber squadron!

 

[Mellowman2112]

I have to agree on the growth of the "spy" industry but we may want to consider that it isn't so much that our defense industry is rising to spy it's more spin off technology from massive war funding used to spy on others but the result is the same.

What did somebody say.. "Can't we all just get a Bong?"

It's not really funny I know.

Yeah adn they wont legalise pot because it expands the mind and makes people think. They are terrified of it.

 

[tip top toker]

You do know that with a little bit of structure in your writing, you can actually reply to lots of people in 1 post, not 9 in a row..

 

[DrFever]

what i find halarious is was not to long ago when usa gave arms to people in afganistan to fight yet years later there fighting them
will libya become any different meaning what side is usa really on
if you think about it

then some posts up usa didnt declare war i find this really amusing guess china, russia can drop a bomb on usa and say no we didnt declare war hahahaha
i guess its ok to drop a bomb in another country and its not declareing a war

far as i realize its liegal to have group gatherings but now anyone having one concerning a war holding signs gets arrested ??? will the time come when the citizens of usa get shot for doin this not meaning rubber bullits

 

[tip top toker]

what i find halarious is was not to long ago when usa gave arms to people in afganistan to fight yet years later there fighting them
will libya become any different meaning what side is usa really on
if you think about it

then some posts up usa didnt declare war i find this really amusing guess china, russia can drop a bomb on usa and say no we didnt declare war hahahaha
i guess its ok to drop a bomb in another country and its not declareing a war

far as i realize its liegal to have group gatherings but now anyone having one concerning a war holding signs gets arrested ??? will the time come when the citizens of usa get shot for doin this not meaning rubber bullits

Haha, i can just picture the yank torping a north korean submarine and claiming they were just trying to save lives or such It is indeed anything but a "no-fly zone". Hell even the big name news guys are stating that a "US warplane crash landed" not a "US bomber" etc, but warplane It's a liberation plane damnit!

 

[Serapis]

Do you have any clue what you are talking about Canadian? No, obviously you don't. Do you know what a formal declaration of war is? No, of course not, you are from Canada, the land of peace loving, pink belly, interlopers. and where are protesters in the US being arrested simply for holding a sign? I think you need a job or a hobby, to get your mind off the USA, as you seem fucking obsessed with us.

what i find halarious is was not to long ago when usa gave arms to people in afganistan to fight yet years later there fighting them
will libya become any different meaning what side is usa really on
if you think about it

then some posts up usa didnt declare war i find this really amusing guess china, russia can drop a bomb on usa and say no we didnt declare war hahahaha
i guess its ok to drop a bomb in another country and its not declareing a war

far as i realize its liegal to have group gatherings but now anyone having one concerning a war holding signs gets arrested ??? will the time come when the citizens of usa get shot for doin this not meaning rubber bullits

 

[Serapis]

Another foreigner trash talking the USA.... hmmm...... maybe next time your country needs help, we ignore the pleas? Sounds GREAT to me.

Haha, i can just picture the yank torping a north korean submarine and claiming they were just trying to save lives or such It is indeed anything but a "no-fly zone". Hell even the big name news guys are stating that a "US warplane crash landed" not a "US bomber" etc, but warplane It's a liberation plane damnit!

 

[NLNo5]

We need to just give away our mj to all who seek it. Maryjane's going to bring world peace. That's why it illegal.

Fuck obama he's just another fucking dipshit president warmonger puppet.

 

[tip top toker]

Another foreigner trash talking the USA.... hmmm...... maybe next time your country needs help, we ignore the pleas? Sounds GREAT to me.

Fuck, if it makes you happier how about an english submarine? Too butt hurt to get the point i guess, the point being that this is all BULLSHIT. And yes, sounds great to me as well We've already been guilt tripped into going to a bullshit war under false pretences, i'd rather not see that relationship re-occur. There's a reason non-mericans like canada a lot more than america

 

[beardo]

We need to just give away our mj to all who seek it. Maryjane's going to bring world peace. That's why it illegal.

Fuck obama he's just another fucking dipshit president warmonger puppet.

Do you suggest they drop joints on the people while enforcing the no fly zone? that might help sway public opinion of us.

 

[Carthoris]

Sometimes people confuse me. Let me make sure I have this straight...... The same people who think Bush going into Iraq was a horrible and evil thing are all excited and happy that Obama is blowing up Libya. The same people who were upset about Bush invading Iraq, don't have an issue with the fact that a few years before Clinton was blowing up Iraq. If Bush was president right now and did the same thing, the people applauding Obama would be bashing him for the same actions.

There is a word for this... ah... (edited this naughty word out)? No, I don't think that's the one... ahhhh oh yea, hypocrisy.

Iraq(every time) - WRONG
Afghanistan - WRONG
Vietnam - WRONG
Bosnia, Herzegovina, Macedonia, Timor, Cambodia, Central Africa, Sudan, Panama ect ect ect ect ect ect. All wrong.

There is always 2 sides to a war. Right now it is a rebellion against the government of Libya. We do not have the right to dictate what sort of government countries should have. What difference does it make who wins in Libya? What did going to Vietnam do? What did going to Korea do? Would we allow China or Russia to invade Mexico if there was a rebellion?

Is there a right of people to take up arms and rebel against their governments if their governments do not do their will? Obama and the world obviously believe they do in Libya and other countries. What of America, England, France, Ect? Do our citizens have the right to rebel? Who gets to decide at what point the people have the right to rebel? The leaders in charge of the country, NATO, UN?

Where were they when America murdered the people in Waco for less reason than the Libyan army is killing people?

Where is your sympathy for the IRA? They are fighting against hundreds of year of foreign oppression, starvation, and murder?

If you have beliefs - STAND BY THEM. Don't change them based on who is doing the evil thing. True held beliefs do not change depending how much support a person gets. Look at Ron Paul. He has held his beliefs his entire life, he is true to himself, and honest to everyone about who he is.

To those who would are saying Obama is doing the right thing and is a good president. Did we leave Gitmo? Did we leave Iraq? Did we leave Afghanistan? Is the economy any better? Was starting more wars one of his campaign promises? What makes his lies better than other peoples lies? If you trust in Obama, you are a fool. Might as well of voted for McCain for all the 'change' you got.

 

[Serapis]

It's amazing to me that people are blind and so biased to call Obama a war monger... Number one, we didn't ask for this. Just three days before the Security Council passed the No-Fly resolution, Clinton had met with rebel leaders and advised that we were not supporting a no-fly zone or taking sides in a two party armed conflict. She was speaking for Obama, and that was his decision. Three days later, what are you going to do, turn your back on the entire fucking Arab League, THAT YOU ARE WORKING so hard to rebuild an image with, or tell your allies to fuck off? Which one? Neither one wins you support, because one part jumps down your throat if you do, and everyone else if you don't...

The USA didn't fire on Libyan civilians, or bomb them, their fucking leader did.... And to compare a pre-emptive war, with over 100k ground forces and 3 carrier groups with a limited fly operation over Libya is absurd, asinine even. The two aren't even close in comparison to scope.

But go ahead you foreigners on a US forum board site that supports MMJ in the US, keep on flapping your gums.... I just hope that when the time comes, you can kiss your ass goodbye, cause we ain;'t fucking coming next time.... Kiss our U,S of A ASS!

 

[Serapis]

Is the economy any better than it was in 2008? Hmmmmm what a stupid ass question. Credit card reform.... health care that saves over 10 bil a year, lower taxes, tax credits, aid to students going up, improvements in national power grid, additional enrollments in CHIPS, and I haven't even scratched the surface....

There sure are a lot of deaf, dumb and blind people out there that don't pay attention to atual news, bill and reforms going on. They're too busy watching FOX News and talking shit...

 

[Mellowman2112]

You do know that with a little bit of structure in your writing, you can actually reply to lots of people in 1 post, not 9 in a row..

I was getting caught up, next time I will read everything before replying. Your right thanks.

 

[Serapis]

there is also a multi quote option next to the quote with reply... Just click on it, next to posts you wish to respond to, and when you get to last one you want to reply to, click on Reply with Quote and every message you selected will be quoted.

I was getting caught up, next time I will read everything before replying. Your right thanks.