The Truth About Ron Paul - Part 2

[deprave]

New Ron Paul interview
- Ron Paul says he would bring all the troops home -
[video=youtube;5fBjFzmWGPU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fBjFzmWGPU[/video]

 

[Parker]

How would you know how to do your job or do the best job without a degree..hell would you let a Teacher teach your child without going to college...would you let a Doctor operate on you without a degree..???.would you let an Accountant count your money without going to school.??? hell I wouldn't let you manage a store without one..but I would let you work the counter, but that only pays 9.25 an hr.

Does an a/c repairman need a degree? What about a plumber? Plenty of good paying jobs that don't need degrees.
Speaking of accounting it's getting the CPA that is the big boost to income. You can get that without a degree. I'd rather have someone who went through a couple years at an accounting trade school (if there was such a thing) than someone who went to a 4 year college. What do I care if my accountant got good grades at speech, or a foreign language, or astronomy, or biology?

 

[Parker]

Actually I did just fine working in the field of my choice. I just decided the corporate world isn't for me and started growing bud instead. Is that a problem? I do not regret college at all even though I'm no longer working in the field of my degree. What I learned will be with me forever and no one can take that away from me.

I'm not a statistically normal example. My ex girlfriend who I lived with at the time is now a VP at her company and has been making six figures since she was in her mid 20's. She could have never gotten that job without her education.

The journey of college was fun. I'm sure I would have had an interesting journey in another area had I not gone.

But speaking monetarily. How much money you would have earned selling bud and factor that with much money you would have saved, by not spending it on college during that same time. Including all expenses related, books, loans, interest.....
that's the rub.

a female in her mid 20's, VP, making 6 figures, is not the norm
neither is a person in their mid 20's with a hs diploma making 6 figures playing basketball

 

[deprave]

Lets get back to this political graph because it explains the liberty movement well, at the red dot you have Ron Paul (argueably he is a smidge to the right of the red dot) .....The entire top half of this graph encompass the American people. Now if you take a line and draw it straight across just below the bottom centrist line, below this line you have the majority of politicians, at least you have all of Ron Paul's opponents. This is the gap between the people and politicians that has been gradually getting wider. If Ron Paul is elected this gap would shrink.




So really what we have is the liberty movement which is essentially a humanitarian cause...Supporting Ron Paul's campaign is in essence support for our republic.

 

[UncleBuck]

Lets get back to this political graph because it explains the liberty movement well, at the red dot you have Ron Paul (argueably he is a smidge to the right of the red dot) .....The entire top half of this graph encompass the American people. Now if you take a line and draw it straight across just below the centrist line, below this line you have the majority of politicians, at least you have all of Ron Paul's opponents. This is the gap between the people an politicians that has been gradually getting wider. If Ron Paul is elected this gap would shrink.


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ha, ron paul is NOT a libertarian. he is only libertarian when convenient.

do you think he would stand ANY chance at getting the nomination if he espoused the libertarian principle on abortion? his chances would drop from 0.0000000000001% directly down to 0%.

i repeat, ron paul is NOT a libertarian.

 

[Parker]

ha, ron paul is NOT a libertarian. he is only libertarian when convenient.

do you think he would stand ANY chance at getting the nomination if he espoused the libertarian principle on abortion? his chances would drop from 0.0000000000001% directly down to 0%.

i repeat, ron paul is NOT a libertarian.

Ron Paul has some libertarian ideas when it comes to government. He believes in following the Constitution. Convenience has nothing to do with it. He is very principled, something you weren't taught, you filthy cockroach.

 

[NoDrama]

ha, ron paul is NOT a libertarian. he is only libertarian when convenient.

do you think he would stand ANY chance at getting the nomination if he espoused the libertarian principle on abortion? his chances would drop from 0.0000000000001% directly down to 0%.

i repeat, ron paul is NOT a libertarian.

Umm the libertarian principle would be that states can decide how they will handle Abortion. Can't have that now can we? How do you like them apples?

 

[deprave]

Regardless how you score Ron Paul - he is still up at the top with the people, while other politicians are down at the bottom making out with the fortune 100, so thats beside the point UncleBuck.

 

[londonfog]

Does an a/c repairman need a degree? What about a plumber? Plenty of good paying jobs that don't need degrees.
Speaking of accounting it's getting the CPA that is the big boost to income. You can get that without a degree. I'd rather have someone who went through a couple years at an accounting trade school (if there was such a thing) than someone who went to a 4 year college. What do I care if my accountant got good grades at speech, or a foreign language, or astronomy, or biology?

Dude school is school...be it college , trade school or what...my argument is in this world you need a degree or certification to get any job that will pay you decent...every job you just named requires such and if you plan on expanding your trade to be your boss you will need to take some kind of business management classes which will lead you back to college

 

[deprave]

so you think to be a successful plumber that you need a degree, last time I had plumber over he was drinking a 40oz and he came over in a new camaro, to own your business you absolutely need a degree? laughable, what kind of fantasy world do you live in and why didn't I find it when I was jobless with a degree, I got my degree and made up to a whooping 40k-70k a year(sarcasm) a long side my colleagues while helping business and sales people who made twice my income and dropped out of high school - then I went into IT an industry which I had no formal experience or studies in and started working with college dropouts who make 100K+....my life lesson here..degree =! wealth , somehow you missed this lesson along the way. Again, not dissing college, I love college and learned a lot, but it didn't help me make good money.

 

[londonfog]

so you think to be a successful plumber that you need a degree, last time I had plumber over he was drinking a 40oz and he came over in a new camaro, to own your business you absolutely need a degree, what kind of fantasy world do you live in and why didn't I find it when I was jobless with a degree, I got my degree and made up to a whooping 40k-70k a year(sarcasm) a long side my colleagues while helping business and sales people who made twice my income and dropped out of high school - then I went into IT an industry which I had no formal experience or studies in and started working with college dropouts who make 100K+....my life lesson here..degree =! wealth , somehow you missed this lesson along the way.

ok you work in the IT field as what...????? Do you have any Certs...????did you have to go to school to get your certs...???? You can own your business without a degree never said you couldn't, but you would manage it much better by taking some business managment courses...this I know for a fact....but hey if you happy not going to school then I'm fine with it ...makes it easier for me and others... again what do you do in the IT field ?????

 

[deprave]

I have no certifications, I studied on my own merrit as did the majority of my co-workers, I work with Linux for a hosting company. I do have degrees, I don't use them, when I did use them I made lower class wages. The company I work for now didn't even look at my resume, they only cared about what I could do and that I wanted to do this as a career, I never even finished filling out the application.

 

[UncleBuck]

Ron Paul has some libertarian ideas when it comes to government. He believes in following the Constitution. Convenience has nothing to do with it. He is very principled, something you weren't taught, you filthy cockroach.

agree, he has SOME libertarian ideas. we could probably both agree he has A LOT of libertarian ideas. but not all.

oh, i am a filthy cockroach? darn, i was under the impression that i was a human. this is turning into some kafka-esque nightmare. fuck.

what smells like adult depends and hard candy?

 

[deprave]

Thomas Woods speaks on Nullification at Nullify Now Los Angeles

A key person in the liberty movement
[video=youtube;qp5hMiTS2dg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp5hMiTS2dg&feature=player_embedded[/video]

http://www.myfreesociety.com Thomas E. Woods gives his strongest speech yet on the topic of Nullification at Nullify Now in Los Angeles. Thomas Woods is a Senior Fellow at the Mises Institute http://www.mises.org and a bestselling author of "Meltdown," "Nullification," and "Rollback." The Nullify Now conference is sponsored by The Foundation for a Free Society http://www.f4fs.org and the Tenth Amendment Center http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com.

 

[deprave]

In the video above, woods explains the media spin on the liberty movement and the information war using comedy, highly recommended speech on this topic and other topics such as states rights. The liberty movement is alive and well, and its stronger than ever, this has been building up for more than 30 years and it will prevail, Ron Paul is our chance to really kick this off for the people.

As mentioned above in the video during the first part of the speech - The Interview with a Zombie!

 

[londonfog]

I have no certifications, I studied on my own merrit as did the majority of my co-workers, I work with Linux for a hosting company. I do have degrees, I don't use them, when I did use them I made lower class wages. The company I work for now didn't even look at my resume, they only cared about what I could do and that I wanted to do this as a career, I never even finished filling out the application.

buddy you one of the lucky ones...Most employers would want to see some certs...and are you speaking of linux as in "Unix family" or a company name Linux..never mind sounds like you just doing web hosting...I thought when you said IT field you meant Data Security Analyst, Data Modeler, Network / Systems Security Admin, etc etc.... you know something that going to pays the 6 figures, because if you trying to reach those goals you will need school..and if you ever want to reach the top paying job in your field ( CIO ) you better start getting some certs..

 

[deprave]

agree, he has SOME libertarian ideas. we could probably both agree he has A LOT of libertarian ideas. but not all.

oh, i am a filthy cockroach? darn, i was under the impression that i was a human. this is turning into some kafka-esque nightmare. fuck.

what smells like adult depends and hard candy?

You forget Ron Paul founded the Tea Party, the new liberty movement is ALL ABOUT RON PAUL, A LOT of libertarian ideas is an understatement, Ron Paul has been scored at the tippy top of this chart before. So i think a lot of people would dispute your claim that Ron Paul is not a libertarian, even when scoring the abortion he would be placed as a right leaning libertarian or at best a "reagan republican' which is essentially still a libertarian.

 

[Dan Kone]

You forget Ron Paul founded the Tea Party, the new liberty movement is ALL ABOUT RON PAUL, A LOT of libertarian ideas is an understatement, Ron Paul has been scored at the tippy top of this chart before.

And by that you mean his views were the furthest to the right. That's what a high score is there.

Just proof he's a far right extremist. Extremes don't work because no ideology is flawless, they all have major flaws.I'd rather have a president who acknowledges that fact and does was a smart president should do, incorporate all the proven best part from all ideologies.

at best a "reagan republican' which is essentially still a libertarian.

Really? Massive deficit spending, amnesty for illegal immigrants, and expanding the size of government is essentially still a libertarian?

 

[deprave]

LOL WOW! - Dan you should really watch the nullification speech above.

 

[deprave]

by that logic anything not included in the 1inch gap that is between Hillary and Mitt Romney are extreme aren't they? and that just doesn't work!