The Truth About Ron Paul - Part 2

[budlover13]

ron paul 2012! he will spur jobs in the printing and publishing sector!

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While i have little faith at times in my fellow man, i would wager that publications such as your example would be available, but would be targeted in much the same way to racists, not the excluded races because our country just won't support overt racism on a wide-spread scale any more imo. The Civil Rights Act served it's purpose but then got twisted to allow reverse discrimination as a form of payment to blacks and then other minorities. We are at a point now where, at least i, believe that if a black business-owner wants to exclude a white man because he reminds them of the oppression suffered by his ancestorsd then he should have the right to do so. Or at least make the atmosphere so uncomfortable for a white man that he wouldn't WANT to go there.

 

[UncleBuck]

While i have little faith at times in my fellow man, i would wager that publications such as your example would be available, but would be targeted in much the same way to racists, not the excluded races because our country just won't support overt racism on a wide-spread scale any more imo. The Civil Rights Act served it's purpose but then got twisted to allow reverse discrimination as a form of payment to blacks and then other minorities. We are at a point now where, at least i, believe that if a black business-owner wants to exclude a white man because he reminds them of the oppression suffered by his ancestorsd then he should have the right to do so. Or at least make the atmosphere so uncomfortable for a white man that he wouldn't WANT to go there.

textbook move: the whites are the ones who face discrimination now! forget the achievement gap, the disproportionate amount of minorities in prison, or any number of other examples of how discrimination against minorities is still well and strong, it is the poor tough white male who faces the shit end of the stick.

boo fucking hoo.

 

[budlover13]

textbook move: the whites are the ones who face discrimination now! forget the achievement gap, the disproportionate amount of minorities in prison, or any number of other examples of how discrimination against minorities is still well and strong, it is the poor tough white male who faces the shit end of the stick.

boo fucking hoo.

Textbook move: Using whites as the most common example of reverse racism in progress. Your assertions are just typical propaganda of the politically and ethically corrupt.

 

[londonfog]

And you prove my point exactly sir. Thank you.

You attempt to mislabel my desire for liberty as racist, silly, uneducated or unwise just like the mainstream media and pocket-politicians do to Dr. Paul. Smear tactics at it's finest, but smear tactics nonetheless that avoid or attempt to cloud the issues at hand. Yet you make my exact point. If one chooses to make their business exclusive then they will suffer the financial hardships involved. The market WILL work it out. WITHOUT infringing on the rights and liberty of others.

Guy I proved zero of your points and I never said you are racist, silly or uneducated..You make that claim not I...as far as your thought that the market will work it out..I already told you how I can just let only mexicans and blacks wash clothes in my businesses and it would not hurt me one bit..If I told every white person that they could not wash I GUARANTEE I would still be in business...so my business is just one example of being able to survive the views of you and ron paul..you really think I have the right to tell some white lady that she can't wash clothes just because she white ???? hmmmm what if I let her wash ..then decided phuck it I don't want her here no more and kicked her out without letting her dry her clothes..do I have the right to do that to ..its my business right ????WTF

 

[UncleBuck]

Your assertions are just typical propaganda of the politically and ethically corrupt.

no, you are just butt hurt that i called you out on your 'oh, poor me' bullshit.

i find it fitting that the 'truth about ron paul' threads all devolve into discussion of how he does not support civil rights, would have let the economy collapse, does not support more liberty for women, etc. because that IS the truth about ron paul.

 

[budlover13]

no, you are just butt hurt that i called you out on your 'oh, poor me' bullshit.

i find it fitting that the 'truth about ron paul' threads all devolve into discussion of how he does not support civil rights, would have let the economy collapse, does not support more liberty for women, etc. because that IS the truth about ron paul.

Que sera, sera. Ad Nauseaum.

 

[budlover13]

Got pretty high opinions of yourselves and some pretty big ego imo.

 

[budlover13]

Ad Hominem (the argument against the man)
Attacking the person's character instead of attacking the argument.
Examples:
"Why should I listen to your opinion on philosophy, you barely graduated high school."
"You think you are capable of debating evolutionary theory while you sit there and smoke weed all day?"

Ad baculum (appeal to the stick or force)
An argument where force, coercion, or the threat of force is used to justify the conclusion.
Examples:
"If you don't repent your sins you will burn for eternity in hell, therefore you MUST repent."
"Don't argue with the king's policies or he will lock you up and toss away the key. Therefore keep your mouth shut."

Ad lapidem (throwing stones)
Dismissing a statement as absurd without giving reason why it is absurd.
Examples:
"You don't believe in a divine being? That's just fuckin' retarded!"
"You don't think marijuana is addictive? Are you crazy!? Pull your head out of your ass."

loaded question
Asking a question that presupposes something that isn't yet proven.
Examples:
"Do you still beat children up with baseball bats?"
"Why is Obama afraid to admit he was born in Kenya?"



The tools of fools.

 

[Parker]

He isn't being hidden from view. He gets tons of press. You've posted a ton of Ron Paul videos of him being interviewed. I didn't see his face being blacked out or smeared.
Free markets encourage monopolies. Ron Paul thinks federal anti-monopoly laws are unconstitutional.

Dan
You must not have followed the 2008 elections. Ron Paul was constantly marginalized. He was left out of a debate even though he was polling higher than others in the debate.

You also missed the point about what Ron Paul thinks about monopolies. Quit getting info from soundbites, you don't know his policies. Don't get caught up in a one size fits all mentality. Take some time and read up on the Alcoa monopoly trial. It was ridiculous and a waste of time.
To say free markets encourage monopolies is absurd.

 

[Parker]

no, you are just butt hurt that i called you out on your 'oh, poor me' bullshit.

i find it fitting that the 'truth about ron paul' threads all devolve into discussion of how he does not support civil rights, would have let the economy collapse, does not support more liberty for women, etc. because that IS the truth about ron paul.

You lying sack of shit, who wouldn't know the truth if it hit you right between the eyes.

You're a pussy who can't argue the issues, so you make it about the poster. We're not your little buddies who read comic books and national geographic and lie about having girl friends. Your little buddies believe your bullshit, adults don't, you ignorant little twat.

 

[budlover13]

Easy Parker. Don't stoop to that level. Big picture.

Understandably frustrating but that is the exact response they aim for. Don't give them any ammo to supplement their half-truths and misconceptions.

 

[londonfog]

I think the truth hurts...and you never answered my question on my last post

 

[Parker]

Guy I proved zero of your points and I never said you are racist, silly or uneducated..You make that claim not I...as far as your thought that the market will work it out..I already told you how I can just let only mexicans and blacks wash clothes in my businesses and it would not hurt me one bit..If I told every white person that they could not wash I GUARANTEE I would still be in business
...so my business is just one example of being able to survive the views of you and ron paul..you really think I have the right to tell some white lady that she can't wash clothes just because she white ???? hmmmm what if I let her wash ..then decided phuck it I don't want her here no more and kicked her out without letting her dry her clothes..do I have the right to do that to ..its my business right ????WTF

bullshit. You cannot guarantee that. I'd be willing to bet if I open up right next to you I'd be more successful than you. How could I not be? Anyone who knows a business understands when you narrow the customer base you get less customers. To say different is bullshit so quit talking shit. Some customers will leave your business and go with mine for the sole reason I don't discriminate.
Then another person comes along and sees me being more successful than you since I serve EVERYONE, sees you still making money and that person opens a store. Eventually you will be driven out of business. THAT is a fact.
But you're gonna tell me you're the ONE example it's not true. You're talking shit.

 

[Parker]

I think the truth hurts...and you never answered my question on my last post

I answered your question. You're clueless on economics. You proved it by making one of the dumbest statements I've ever heard muttered, "You can be successful by stopping people from buying your product". fuck off you half wit

 

[UncleBuck]

You lying sack of shit, who wouldn't know the truth if it hit you right between the eyes.

You're a pussy who can't argue the issues, so you make it about the poster. We're not your little buddies who read comic books and national geographic and lie about having girl friends. Your little buddies believe your bullshit, adults don't, you ignorant little twat.

truth stings a bit, doesn't it?

ron paul does not support civil rights: FACT
ron paul would have let the economy collapse: FACT
ron paul does not support more liberty for women: FACT

 

[budlover13]

Guy I proved zero of your points and I never said you are racist, silly or uneducated..You make that claim not I...as far as your thought that the market will work it out..I already told you how I can just let only mexicans and blacks wash clothes in my businesses and it would not hurt me one bit..If I told every white person that they could not wash I GUARANTEE I would still be in business...so my business is just one example of being able to survive the views of you and ron paul..you really think I have the right to tell some white lady that she can't wash clothes just because she white ???? hmmmm what if I let her wash ..then decided phuck it I don't want her here no more and kicked her out without letting her dry her clothes..do I have the right to do that to ..its my business right ????WTF

Yes, it SHOULD be your right. Freedom isn't free.

 

[Parker]

Easy Parker. Don't stoop to that level. Big picture.

Understandably frustrating but that is the exact response they aim for. Don't give them any ammo to supplement their half-truths and misconceptions.

bud you have good intentions but you have to understand, some of these imbreds weren't raised right. They only know how to talk and deal on a certain level. Its like learning a foreign language to chat with someone from a different country.

 

[UncleBuck]

Ad Hominem (the argument against the man)
Attacking the person's character instead of attacking the argument.

The tools of fools.

You lying sack of shit...You're a pussy ...you ignorant little twat.

You're clueless...fuck off you half wit

what reeks like bengay?

 

[budlover13]

truth stings a bit, doesn't it?

ron paul does not support civil rights: FACT
ron paul would have let the economy collapse: FACT
ron paul does not support more liberty for women: FACT

No, he doesn't support a law that infringes upon the liberty of others.

The economy one was conjecture since nobody can say what might have been. Obviously the "solution" we went with hasn't done so hot.

He support the right of a woman to find a Dr. who is willing to willing to do the procedure. He doesn't agree with it, but she would still have that right.

 

[londonfog]

bullshit. You cannot guarantee that. I'd be willing to bet if I open up right next to you I'd be more successful than you. How could I not be? Anyone who knows a business understands when you narrow the customer base you get less customers. To say different is bullshit so quit talking shit. Some customers will leave your business and go with mine for the sole reason I don't discriminate.
Then another person comes along and sees me being more successful than you since I serve EVERYONE, sees you still making money and that person opens a store. Eventually you will be driven out of business. THAT is a fact.
But you're gonna tell me you're the ONE example it's not true. You're talking shit.

ok realistically you can't open up next to me..you can go about two blocks down...so that rules you out..and you would be surprise just how many Mexicans would be happy to have a place that only they could wash..Now I'm sure quite a few blacks would be upset, but hey I'm black so they would still come and ask me why as they do their wash and I will just tell them so bullshit about white folks and lice...so you keep thinking you know people when I see and deal with these people evey damn day ( almost )...