The Truth About Ron Paul - Part 2

[deprave]

Another poll, they removed ron paul as an option: http://campaigntrailreport.com/2011/06/14/new-hampshire-gop-post-debate-update-poll

Update: We almost immediately detected high volumes of traffic coming from four different Ron Paul related domains and as a result have removed Ron Paul from the web poll. The purpose of this poll is NOT to see which candidate has supporters in place to game the poll. The purpose of this poll is try and gain a reasonable understanding of where our regular readers stand.

 

[deprave]

Fox News Poll: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/06/13/which-candidate-or-would-be-candidate-would-most-like-to-see-debate-obama/



CURRENT NUMBERS AS OF 11:00PM


Thank you for voting!



Mitt Romney 8.3% (5,376 votes)

Gary Johnson 0.62% (403 votes)

Newt Gingrich 7.83% (5,072 votes)

Herman Cain 20.56% (13,315 votes)

Tim Pawlenty 3.13% (2,028 votes)

Ron Paul 22.59% (14,632 votes)

Rick Santorum 2.93% (1,896 votes)

Sarah Palin 11.82% (7,657 votes)

Mike Huckabee 3.13% (2,029 votes)

Mitch Daniels 0.58% (374 votes)

John Huntsman 0.44% (288 votes)

Michele Bachmann 6.2% (4,018 votes)

Donald Trump 8.6% (5,571 votes)

Other (post a comment). 3.26% (2,111 votes)

Total Votes: 64,770

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/06/13/which-candidate-or-would-be-candidate-would-most-like-to-see-debate-obama/#ixzz1PDQa5QlX
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[undertheice]

WOW for once we can agree

don't get too excited. these are, after all, just further examples of the depths to which the political animal has sunk.

on a positive note, at least we will be spared the mindless yammerings of their counterparts on the left. with obama a shoe in for the nomination, we won't be enduring the populist platitudes of a bunch of liberal hopefuls.

 

[deprave]

Link to all online polls - ron dominating all of them 57% to 90% of the votes or higher on some never dipping below 50% with the exception of fox where he is hoovering around 25% in the lead

**FOX- http://fxn.ws/jPkzuW
**CBS- http://bit.ly/mvKQYZ
**CNBC- http://bit.ly/isin2p
VOTE BOMBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
**TellDC – http://on.fb.me/lG91d5
**MSNBC – http://bit.ly/kosQ1r
**Cooper – http://on.fb.me/itnEUH
**Vortex – http://bit.ly/iNHnUB
…**CNN – http://bit.ly/lk65TK
**WePolls – http://bit.ly/j5aOC5

 

[deprave]

Ron Paul forums: Seriously. Another poll had Ron Paul winning, so they took it down. We have the images to prove it. He's winning by a large margin, and then they take him off the list of available options, and take out his numbers. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/content.php?715-N.H.-Primary-Poll-Spin

 

[tryingtogrow89]

The truth will always prevail.

 

[deprave]

Ron Paul New Column http://paul.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1876:the-keys-to-economic-growth&catid=62:texas-straight-talk&Itemid=69

The Keys to Economic Growth Recent economic data show that U.S. job growth in May was negligible, while the official unemployment figure-- at least the figure the Labor Department admits to-- rose to 9.1%. The real unemployment figure, however, as compiled by economist John Williams, may well be higher than 20%. It is clear the U.S. economy is in terrible shape, and that no amount of government spending or Federal Reserve quantitative easing can reduce unemployment, increase real productivity, or address our debt fiasco.U.S. jobs and productivity are dependent on the accumulation of private capital to finance existing businesses or fund new entrepreneurial activity. Private capital-- whether accumulated by profitable U.S. businesses, invested by private equity and venture capital firms, or attracted from abroad-- is the key to economic growth and new jobs. But we cannot create jobs if we demonize profits, punish risk-taking capitalists, and stay hostile to foreign investment.
The steps to encouraging capital investment and creating new jobs in America are simple, though not easy:
· First and foremost, we must create a sound U.S. currency backed by gold or some other commodity respected by the market. No nation in history with a rapidly depreciating currency has attracted private capital. Unless and until we prohibit the Treasury and Federal Reserve from essentially creating money and credit from thin air, we cannot restore the U.S. economy.
· Second, we must create a favorable regulatory environment for U.S. business. This cannot be stressed enough. When businesses don’t know what’s coming next from the EPA, when Obamacare spikes their healthcare costs, or when the Dodd-Frank bill adds almost unknowable regulatory compliance burdens, businesses simply will not expand and hire. It is time to start shrinking the federal register.
· Third, we must stop spending trillions of dollars overseas on foreign wars. There is no point in debating a foreign policy we cannot afford. It no longer matters what neoconservatives want. Our interventionist foreign policy is financed on credit, and our credit limit has been reached. Our economy would be infinitely better off if those trillions of dollars had never been removed from the private economy or added to our debt.
· Finally, we must completely revamp the U.S. tax system and move to a territorial model that does not tax foreign source income. U.S. corporations are sitting on more than a trillion dollars in foreign earnings that cannot be repatriated to the U.S. because of taxes. We need to stop taxing unpatriated funds to bring those earnings home. Better yet, we need to abolish the income tax altogether.
The U.S. economy is in deep trouble. Congress needs to act immediately to restore the rule of law and create an environment that rewards, rather than punishes, the critical components of any healthy economy: capital accumulation and investment.
In this struggling economy it is essential for politicians to take a step back and think about what government has been doing to business in this country. In less than 200 years, the free market, property rights, and respect for the rule of law took this nation from a rough frontier to a global economic superpower. Today, however, our nation and our economy clearly are headed in the wrong direction.
Of course, America has never enjoyed absolute free-market capitalism: creeping government intrusion and special interest political patronage have existed and increased since our founding. But America historically has permitted free markets to operate with less government interference than other nations, while showing greater respect for property rights and the rule of law. Less government, respect for private property, and a relatively stable legal environment allowed America to become the wealthiest nation on earth.
By contrast, the poorest nations almost always demonstrate hostility for free markets, private property, and the rule of law. Capital formation, entrepreneurship, credit, and wealth accumulation are uniformly discouraged in poor countries. Private contracts are not reliably enforced, and private property is not secure in the hands of owners. The predictable result is widespread poverty and misery.

 

[UncleBuck]

herman cain was the only one that did not look like a schnook.

ron paul looked like he missed his midday nap.

mitt romney pandered to the right.

tim pawlenty bored all who watched.

santorum was frothy as usual.

bachmann? already a joke.

gingrich? just in it for plublicity.

i walked away from this saying that herman cain is the only one i would even consider voting for over obama.

since this is a ron paul thread, let me just say, unbiased: he was OFF. he was not at his best. the polls are rigged with cultists like deprave and tryingtogow voting.

herman cain was the clear winner.

 

[tryingtogrow89]

Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul!

 

[tryingtogrow89]

Tim Pawlenty

 

[deprave]

I think caine made a fool of himself, Ron paul did bad for the first 70 minutes or so but after that he did rebound pretty good, overall worst ron paul debate ever, but I still think he won, I wouldn't of said that 70 minutes in but I think even if I went by this debate as my only knowledge of these candidates I would still consider Ron Paul to have won with newt in second and bachman third and palewnty 4th, I would have considered Romney as the winner also just from watching the debates until he got asked the question in the end about the war and go served by Ron Paul.

I like how they are all pretending to be Ron Paul, good tactic.

Ron Paul could of been a lot more clear especially in the beginning, he should of been more clear and direct for low iq people to understand his message, he didn't stand out much at all really, I guess that is a good thing.

I think cain made himself out to be a racist, an angry black man, and also people will look at what he said about the economy as if he is a black man living off the system because they are racist....so really I think he ruined his image pretty badly here, Racist white people definitely won't even consider him. I really like him in that he seems genuine like one of us , but I just don't trust him as a FORMER FED CHAIR and he has no experience therefore will not accomplish much of anything and the fact he mentioned sharia law glenn beck shit is laughable, he also lacks highly intelligence.

every canidate managed to make a fool of themselves at least once, with the exception of Ron Paul, so therefore I feel like he won. (unless you count the iphone v blackberry question when paul chose blackberry lol)

 

[londonfog]

Iphone vs blackberry..choosing blackberry shows how out of touch one may be ...I mean really who would say blackberry...Might have lost the apple votes

 

[UncleBuck]

santorum totally booted the leno vs conan question. cain nailed it with his deep dish response, although i prefer thin crust.

 

[tryingtogrow89]

Stuff crust!

 

[UncleBuck]

Stuff crust!

how do you afford that on unemployment?

 

[tryingtogrow89]

Conan! over leno

 

[UncleBuck]

Conan! over leno

well, at least we agree on one thing.

 

[Dan Kone]

Freedom means being free.

Thanks for that piece of wisdom.

Once again, there is a huge gap between being harmed and not being helped.

Yeah, and when you remove the regulations that prevent Wall St from ripping us off, that's doing harm, not increasing freedom.

You basically said "I don't respond to things I cannot dispel, so I just say I am not arguing it because of _____". You might as well of said "I know you are but what am I"

I said nothing even remotely similar to that.

 

[Dan Kone]

CNN POLLS SEEM TO HAVE RON PAUL WINNING BY JUST A LIL BIT (just over 50% ahead of his opponents lol)

Link to Poll:
http://turner.mo2do.net/s/18129/Home


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lol. just one time I'd like to see you tell the truth about a poll.

That's not a cnn poll. That's some guy with a website who pasted a CNN logo on it. Probably a fellow Ron Paul cult worshiper.

 

[Dan Kone]

Name any major city that doesn't put fluoride in their water, and prove your point with tooth decay surveys or anything that proves your point what so ever?

http://news.santacruz.com/2010/02/15/fluoridation_could_be_coming_to_watsonville

done!