UncleBuck
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wtf? you investigate everything!
if you let your fellow ron paul supporters go on with bullshit lies, it reflects badly on ALL of you
The Truth About Ron Paul - Part 2
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if you let your fellow ron paul supporters go on with bullshit lies, it reflects badly on ALL of you
deprave
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sorry its just not something I am interested in, this thread is for debunking Ron Paul conspiracy theories so it is also off topic. Like I said, its also not relevant to compare 'Approval Ratings' to another president and it is easily skewed, I trust none of those graphs that either of you posted, very easy to smudge something like that. My personal 'Approval Rating' of each graph would be zilch, Id say both graphs are skewed/slanted without even looking it up. Id bet on that if it could be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt but I don't think it could.
To be fair there is very few statistics that I do put weight on, I am not a statist, I am a philosopher and a realist. My personality is of Introverted Intuition with Extroverted Feeling (http://www.personalitypage.com/INFJ.html), this is part of the reason I think that I like Ron Paul so much, he is the same type of person as me so its easy for me to identify with him, well, most politicians like him would be an ENFJ but I can tell from his way of thinking he is actually just an INFJ that has trained himself to give speeches.
To be fair there is very few statistics that I do put weight on, I am not a statist, I am a philosopher and a realist. My personality is of Introverted Intuition with Extroverted Feeling (http://www.personalitypage.com/INFJ.html), this is part of the reason I think that I like Ron Paul so much, he is the same type of person as me so its easy for me to identify with him, well, most politicians like him would be an ENFJ but I can tell from his way of thinking he is actually just an INFJ that has trained himself to give speeches.
tryingtogrow89
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Exactly, this is what it all boils down to in the end.
Carne Seca
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Oh the wonders of photoshop and people who believe everything they see because it's OBAMA!!! dun dun dun!!!I know it's not much in retrospect to Romney and Perry's numbers BUT Ron Paul is polling an average of 3rd in National polls.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html
How much longer will Romney and Perry bludgeon each-other? I like watching those fights.
I'm sorry but that made me laugh hard.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/phone.asp
tryingtogrow89
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Who cares if its fake, its still quite funny and quite fitting, i do not know what is worse; saying hello Ohio to Florida, or saying there are 57 states. Or saying he believes the second amendment is for duck hunting. Or his deficit tripling or his unconstitutional wars, or his unconstitutional health care plans, six examples should be enough, or shall i keep going?
"Obamafail"
While I agree with Rasmussen being a reputable poller. You notice that their Ron Paul % is not in line with the other polls? The day before that, the Gallup polls put him at 13% with registered voters. It is more complicated than likely or registered though. Why? The polls sway people from voting one way or another based on perception of who COULD win and could not. If Ron Paul gains another 3-4% they will have to start taking him serious even in the news. God forbid that Ron Paul hits the 20% mark in this primary, then add to it that he does really well against Obama. I am guessing he would really pick up a lot of momentum at that point. Just like 10% of the people supported Ron Paul in the last primary but he only got 1% - gotta pick between the turd sandwich and the giant douche, right? Hopefully Ron Paul gets his chance this time.
May I also point out that in the last 2 weeks or so Ron Paul is in double digits in 3 out of 7 polls that have been done. I have to assume the polls are mostly wrong by at least their margin of error.
UB is either really high, is taking some new medication, or is setting up for the next big attack lol.
hazyintentions
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I think your predictions are, unfortunately, spot on.
And sorry, I meant to say "registered" voters not "republican voters when I brought those polls up.
I am beginning to seriously consider moving away from population and becoming self sufficient when I have the resources and money, especially given the path our country is going down.
I'm Paul it's is obvious with the way Paul gets black listed during the debates getting few questions and most questions are just ridiculous (Rape Exception, really Fox? You are that low?) .
So, with that said I can always have a littler glimmer of hope. But the real battle is the GOP nod, what amazing me is that the Red camp doesn't realize the only way they will make Obama a one term president is to give a GOP nominee who appeals to the independents and some of the people in the Blue camp tired of Obama's fleeting policies.
Perry could never do that.
Romney is an obvious flip flopper and wall street puppet; he won't win either.
Ron Paul will have to become superman to win the nod, with like 18 weeks before the first primaries things are getting tight and the media hasn't allowed him a chance so I that is my reasoning.
I just thought is was funny because of the serious look on Obama's face. Made it all the better.
No, I believe UncleBuck is here to have a civil and complex debate, it seems that everyone on this forum eventually matures past the name calling, like the stages of life, only shorter, it's hard to explain but I'm glad I can at least see eye to eye with him rather than dealing with attacks and the outfield. Haha
dukeanthony
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I know a guy that has done it since the Mid 70s
He lives in a log cabin on his fathers farm. No electricity and got a wood burning furnace to heat it finally about 10 years ago. His boss used to get on his ass for not cashing his pay checks. They are made out in his Fathers name and Chuck would collect 4 or 5 months worth of them before he would get em cashed. This guy was making 20 bucks an hour as a roofer
hazyintentions
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I wouldn't be that extreme, I would build my own house, if I OWNED the land. Solar panels and wind turbines for power, massive battery pack for storage. Feed back energy to the grid. have my own garden with all the goodies. Raised chickens, cows, pigs, ducks. Hunt. you name it, I would even build my own EV and power it with my free energy.
The Ruiner
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There is no such thing as "self-sufficiency," it truly takes a community. If you think otherwise, you have never tried it for yourself.
dukeanthony
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Disagree with you. Although the Example of my freind is more of "living off the Grid" than it is self suffiency
Chuck Still buys is beer every night and still has to pay for gas and any tools he needs for his job.
Chuck is a non person even though he exists. Make me wonder if he was a draft dodger during Nam
The Ruiner
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Then I would re-assert the notion that you have never tried it...
I have personally lived in intentional communities, I know what it takes, and it is more than one person or family can handle. There is just way too much to do, especially if you want to retain any sort of quality to your life.
I have personally lived in intentional communities, I know what it takes, and it is more than one person or family can handle. There is just way too much to do, especially if you want to retain any sort of quality to your life.
dukeanthony
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Like I said
Chuck has no Plumbing and no electricity. For the first 25 years he had no heat source for winter.
He has his jeep and his job. And a battery powered radio
Chuck has no Plumbing and no electricity. For the first 25 years he had no heat source for winter.
He has his jeep and his job. And a battery powered radio
The Ruiner
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Yeah...exactly, he is still dependent on the outside world. I am not trying to be combative, I am just being real.
I mean, what does he do for food? Gas? Replacement parts? Laundry? Soap? Medical care? And a thousand other things he still needs to get by...
I mean, what does he do for food? Gas? Replacement parts? Laundry? Soap? Medical care? And a thousand other things he still needs to get by...
I guess you missed the 50 or so pages full of turtle fucking jokes aimed at Ron Paul. lol.
There are still tribes who get by without any of that. A person would be no different. They might go insane, but they could still do so. In the USA it would be very hard due to the government wanting to be in your life and not leaving you alone. People did exist before there were governments in the way we know them. You wouldn't have the greatest life but it isn't like there is no life without society.
UncleBuck
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i am totally with you on the slant that works against paul.
they either ask him "ron paul" questions or those out of nowhere ones. they rarely let him chime in on the main matters of the day.
i thought it was real. i got duped.
UncleBuck
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i like turtles.