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Imo Paterno was just as guilty for not reporting it to the police.The guilt from it all killed him
 

PeyoteReligion

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I agree with the fine but did they have to punish the football team and students?
The games will still draw 100,000 loyal fans every week. And they still have a billion dollars in recumbent funds. Sadly there is always collateral damage in these situations. Husband goes to jail for murdering his wife, child goes into foster system. Unfortunate collateral but it always happens when people do these things.

Besides all the athletes are allowed to transfer scholarships without the normal one year penalty. Sure the other sport will take a hit, but whatever. There are hundreds of other schools for kids to go to. penn states rep is too tarnished now. It will take time for them to rebuild, but thats hat you get when you propagate an environment like they did at penn state.
 

Trousers

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I agree with the fine but did they have to punish the football team and students?

They are not being punished at all, not one bit.

The players there on scholarship from red shirt freshman all the way up to seniors can transfer without penalty.
The players that stay can still play football and get a good education (that is supposed to be the focus).

How in the wide, wide, world of sports is that a punishment?

We are talking about a institution's failure to stop children from being raped.

In ten years when this will be pretty much forgotten, the victims of rape will still be struggling with the severe emotional and psychological issues.
 

olylifter420

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Im glad this old bastard lost his legacy and fame...

He dont deserve the breath of anyone anymore...

Like stated above, the guilt did kill him and cancer crap was bullshit imo...

He knew the truth would spring out eventually, he didnt want to be around, so he copped out and died...

I hope dusky gets his share of tyrone,
 

PeyoteReligion

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Im glad this old bastard lost his legacy and fame...

He dont deserve the breath of anyone anymore...

Like stated above, the guilt did kill him and cancer crap was bullshit imo...

He knew the truth would spring out eventually, he didnt want to be around, so he copped out and died...

I hope dusky gets his share of tyrone,
I dunno, that sick fuck Sandusky might like Tyrone. I bet he's been prepping his asshole for jail for years.
 

halfloaf

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Man that shit hapend at Celtic football club in Scotland a man called Jock Stien covered that shit up.
 

Johnnyorganic

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Joe Paterno did not molest any boys. But he was involved in the cover up. A cover up which resulted in more molested boys.

I do not agree with the punishment because PlayPenn State got off too easy.

The Death Penalty was the only appropriate punishment for a program so corrupt that it would protect a child molester in order avoid embarrassing the institution.

Even the motherfucking Catholic Church could not pull that off.

SMU received the death penalty and the worst thing that program did was pay some of their players.

PlayPenn State should have to do what SMU was forced to do; celebrate homecoming for a fucking soccer game for two years.

Eliminate the program for two years, and then spend the next twenty-five years rebuilding.

:fire:
 

Johnnyorganic

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.......so, bet against Penn State this season?
That raises a very interesting point.

Every PlayPenn State victory between 1998 and 2011 was vacated.

Let's say some schlep bet big against PlayPenn State in 2011 when they played his alma mater. His team lost the game and he lost the bet. Now what? Are all bets off? Does he win?

I don't know enough to do anything but speculate. Does a vacated win mean that the opposing team is the victor? Or is there no victor at all?
 

Johnnyorganic

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Okay, I just went to a sports book forum and the question has come up.

Apparently the vacated win essentially means that both teams lost.

But it turns out that it's irrelevant anyway.

Because most gambling houses stipulate that the results used for the purposes of wagering are for game day only.

Hat tip to rowlman for giving me something to think about. :clap:
 

mcrandle

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Vacating wins basically means that those in charge want to re-write history. It's a ridiculous thing that punishes the student athletes that poured their soul in to making those games happen, whether they won or lost. It's an insult to everyone that played on those teams since 1998.

The players had nothing to do with what went on with Sandusky. I think punishment is for those involved and nothing more. Punish the ever living shit out of the school, but don't write "pretend history" as one article put it.

I mean for real, they still won those games. The videos of those games say they actually happened, LOL. NCAA officials have never gotten anything right as far as fair punishment. I mean, look at Auburn the year they went 11-0...they were not allowed to play the title game because the NCAA punished the whole team for rules that were violated by just a few people.

Penn St. won those games. That did happen, I don't give a fuck what this punishment says. And if you're gonna vacate wins, then you better change the recorded stats for every team that they played against.
 

ru4r34l

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Vacating wins basically means that those in charge want to re-write history. It's a ridiculous thing that punishes the student athletes that poured their soul in to making those games happen, whether they won or lost. It's an insult to everyone that played on those teams since 1998.

The players had nothing to do with what went on with Sandusky. I think punishment is for those involved and nothing more. Punish the ever living shit out of the school, but don't write "pretend history" as one article put it.

I mean for real, they still won those games. The videos of those games say they actually happened, LOL. NCAA officials have never gotten anything right as far as fair punishment. I mean, look at Auburn the year they went 11-0...they were not allowed to play the title game because the NCAA punished the whole team for rules that were violated by just a few people.

Penn St. won those games. That did happen, I don't give a fuck what this punishment says. And if you're gonna vacate wins, then you better change the recorded stats for every team that they played against.
I agree, re-writing history will not change or affect those that went through the abuse and it really does not affect Sandusky, JoePa or Penn State.

All involved should be in jail, pay 60+ million to those abused, and Penn State can play along in NCAA championship games next year; that's a fair deal

regards,
 

Nutes and Nugs

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I feel for Pa Joe, He gave his life to Penn State and this homo rapest killed all he ever did plus screwed up the live of his victems, even his adopted son.
It's on the news here every-fuckin-day and it drives me nuts.
Here is a good time line of the truth. Joe was only informed of the activities in the fall of 2000.
The whole time line-- http://news.yahoo.com/timeline-jerry-sandusky-sex-abuse-case-041143837--nfl.html
Fall 2000: A janitor saw Sandusky in the showers performing oral sex on a young boy identified as Victim 8 who was pinned against the wall. The janitor told co-workers and his supervisor, but the incident was not reported to authorities at the time.

February 2001: A graduate assistant, later identified as Mike McQueary, reports seeing Sandusky rape a boy who appeared to be about 10 years old in the shower of the campus football locker room in State College. Called Victim 2 by the grand jury, the boy has not been identified or located. The next morning, McQueary telephoned Paterno and then went to Paterno's home to explain what he had seen. Paterno testified that he called Penn State Athletic Director Tim Curley and met with Curley the following day, explaining that McQueary had reported seeing Sandusky involved in sexual activity with a young boy in the showers. About 10 days later, McQueary was called to a meeting with Curley and Schultz at which he recounted what he had seen. The incident was not reported to any law enforcement or child protective agency. Curley told the grand jury he was informed of "inappropriate conduct" and "horsing around" but not of sexual assault. Curley barred Sandusky from bringing minors onto campus. Prosecutors initially said the incident occurred in March 2002 but later changed the date to February 2001.
 
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