How do I get to heaven? Answers to your questions on eternal life.

[Padawanbater2]

Not kidding here, got a glimpse of the other side and was sent back to report that there is another side. Good way to describe it was put into words a long time ago, "You don't have a soul, you are a soul. You have a body."

Zaehet, I met Carl Sagan the day he moderated a debate, evolution vs creation, on the day he was being awarded "Humanist of the Year." He mentioned Einstein's view that as he increased his understanding of the universe, his appreciation of the greatness of God increased.

I can assure you, he in no way was referring to the Abrahamic God of the Bible. Any of Sagans work shows that.

 

[eye exaggerate]

Good way to describe it was put into words a long time ago, "You don't have a soul, you are a soul. You have a body."

...great post. "with patience possess ye your soul" was a reference to ego death. What you've written here illustrates that, imo. Yours was / is the more drastic route, but hey

 

[Chief Walkin Eagle]

...that's a whole other level of craziness Here, this is symbolic of the flow of air from the nostrils to the heart (and below)... Why would that represent any kind of royalty, or knowledge?

Good question. Im just familiar with the awakening part. A serpent coiling up the spine, activating the Chakras, and fully awakening a person once it reaches the top. Im guessing theres a certain way to breath in order to get into an enlightened state of mind.

 

[OldGrowth420]

Not kidding here, got a glimpse of the other side and was sent back to report that there is another side. Good way to describe it was put into words a long time ago, "You don't have a soul, you are a soul. You have a body."

Zaehet, I met Carl Sagan the day he moderated a debate, evolution vs creation, on the day he was being awarded "Humanist of the Year." He mentioned Einstein's view that as he increased his understanding of the universe, his appreciation of the greatness of God increased.

I love this guy, thank you so much for joining us on this thread.

Hebrews 11:1

New Living Translation (NLT)

Great Examples of Faith

11 Faith is the confidence that what we hope for will actually happen; it gives us assurance about things we cannot see.

[h=3]Romans 15:13[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)

[SUP]13 [/SUP]I pray that God, the source of hope, will fill you completely with joy and peace because you trust in him. Then you will overflow with confident hope through the power of the Holy Spirit.

[h=3]Romans 8:28[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)

[SUP]28 [/SUP]And we know that God causes everything to work together[SUP][a][/SUP] for the good of those who love God and are called according to his purpose for them.

[h=3]Jeremiah 29:11[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)

[SUP]11 [/SUP]For I know the plans I have for you,” says the Lord. “They are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope.

 

[OldGrowth420]

The Lord convicted me to post this.

[h=3]2 Thessalonians 1:7-10[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)



[SUP]7 [/SUP]And God will provide rest for you who are being persecuted and also for us when the Lord Jesus appears from heaven. He will come with his mighty angels, [SUP]8 [/SUP]in flaming fire, bringing judgment on those who don’t know God and on those who refuse to obey the Good News of our Lord Jesus. [SUP]9 [/SUP]They will be punished with eternal destruction, forever separated from the Lord and from his glorious power. [SUP]10 [/SUP]When he comes on that day, he will receive glory from his holy people—praise from all who believe. And this includes you, for you believed what we told you about him.

 

[Dislexicmidget2021]

...that's a whole other level of craziness Here, this is symbolic of the flow of air from the nostrils to the heart (and below)... Why would that represent any kind of royalty, or knowledge?

My guess on this would be that the serpent represents eternal wisdom,while the cane represents old age,brings to mind the old saying with age comes wisdom.I like how you put it earlier in the thread as far as the staff with the snake being symbolic for the rise in conciousness.Its seems to go from the lowest chakra of base energy to the highest being the soul seat or a.k.a the Crown chakra,interesting nonetheless.Just my 2 cents.

 

[meechz 024]

I pray that many people will be saved from hell by viewing this thread.
People are already living in hell right now on planet earth. The lake of fire is as imaginary of a place as never-never land is..deal with it.
it's not hard as an adult to move on from this dogma. Trust me.

Jesus is the only way in which we can enter into the gates of heaven.
His sacrifice enables us to be cleansed from our many sins,
being made righteous through Him.
Well then you're idea of jesus isn't being fair to the kids who were born into islamic families, let alone Islamic states. They aren't even educated about the glorified (western) version of christianity..... Are they suppose to leave their families behind because the other half of the world say's that the western prophet can save them?
Does this sound like a logical idea to you?

Get baptized, and turn from your sin.
You don't need to dip yourself into bath water, to start living positively. It's called a choice, you make one and follow through with it.

Know you are going to heaven by doing these three simple things.

Read the bible to find strength and knowledge in God and His path for your life.
I can read the Karan, Torah, and the Kebra Negast to find strength and knowledge in God. These books don't qualify me a spot in la-la land. They help me in my spiritual journey.
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[Padawanbater2]

The Lord convicted me to post this.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-10

New Living Translation (NLT)



[SUP]7 [/SUP]And God will provide rest for you who are being persecuted and also for us when the Lord Jesus appears from heaven. He will come with his mighty angels, [SUP]8 [/SUP]in flaming fire, bringing judgment on those who don’t know God and on those who refuse to obey the Good News of our Lord Jesus. [SUP]9 [/SUP]They will be punished with eternal destruction, forever separated from the Lord and from his glorious power. [SUP]10 [/SUP]When he comes on that day, he will receive glory from his holy people—praise from all who believe. And this includes you, for you believed what we told you about him.

If you believe this, you're not a good person

 

[OldGrowth420]

I pray that God will soften your hearts and remove the blinders from your eyes before it's too late.

Jesus Christ lives within me

[h=3]Galatians 2:20[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)

[SUP]20 [/SUP]My old self has been crucified with Christ.[SUP][a][/SUP] It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me. So I live in this earthly body by trusting in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

 

[OldGrowth420]

[h=3]2 Thessalonians 2[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)

[h=3]Events prior to the Lord’s Second Coming[/h]2 Now, dear brothers and sisters,[SUP][a][/SUP] let us clarify some things about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and how we will be gathered to meet him. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Don’t be so easily shaken or alarmed by those who say that the day of the Lord has already begun. Don’t believe them, even if they claim to have had a spiritual vision, a revelation, or a letter supposedly from us. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Don’t be fooled by what they say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness[SUP][b][/SUP] is revealed—the one who brings destruction.[SUP][c][/SUP] [SUP]4 [/SUP]He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call god and every object of worship. He will even sit in the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Don’t you remember that I told you about all this when I was with you? [SUP]6 [/SUP]And you know what is holding him back, for he can be revealed only when his time comes. [SUP]7 [/SUP]For this lawlessness is already at work secretly, and it will remain secret until the one who is holding it back steps out of the way. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Then the man of lawlessness will be revealed, but the Lord Jesus will kill him with the breath of his mouth and destroy him by the splendor of his coming.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]This man will come to do the work of Satan with counterfeit power and signs and miracles. [SUP]10 [/SUP]He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them. [SUP]11 [/SUP]So God will cause them to be greatly deceived, and they will believe these lies. [SUP]12 [/SUP]Then they will be condemned for enjoying evil rather than believing the truth.

 

[Zaehet Strife]

Has the thought ever occurred to you OG, that your beliefs could be wrong?

(Your predicted reply)
Yes i've thought about it, but something magical happened that made me think that my beliefs are 100% true without a doubt.

(My reply)
Well, isn't it possible that there is a supernatural entity called "Reficule" in existence that is deceiving you into having that magical experience just for fun?

(Your predicted reply)
No way! I know the magic i saw came from this other supernatural entity called "God"!

(My reply)
Well then, how do you know for sure it was "God" and you weren't being deceived by "Reficule" ????

(Your predicted reply)
SHUT THE FUCK UP! Stop asking questions I JUST KNOW, i have FAITH!

(My reply)
Hehehehe!

 

[OldGrowth420]

Experience. Wisdom comes from being deceived enough times to spot a lie.

 

[OldGrowth420]

If you want to be wise, start by treating others with loving kindness.

 

[eye exaggerate]

If you believe this, you're not a good person

...hey, Pad. I'd like to add a couple of cents here. If you study that book from the perspective of 'conquering' one's base nature - the instinctual, mechanical parts. Those who try receive help, that's the implication. Enemies are always within. It is war, in that sense. Sadly, most people are warring the effects of causes they themselves created. The devil is always outside, never inside. BS. We've got it wrong.

 

[meechz 024]

If you want to be wise, start by treating others with loving kindness.

i already challenged you sir, i want to be wise. rebuttle this for me

I pray that many people will be saved from hell by viewing this thread.
People are already living in hell right now on planet earth. The lake of fire is as imaginary of a place as never-never land is..deal with it.
it's not hard as an adult to move on from this dogma. Trust me.

Jesus is the only way in which we can enter into the gates of heaven.
His sacrifice enables us to be cleansed from our many sins,
being made righteous through Him.
Well then you're idea of jesus isn't being fair to the kids who were born into islamic families, let alone Islamic states. They aren't even educated about the glorified (western) version of christianity..... Are they suppose to leave their families behind because the other half of the world say's that the western prophet can save them?
Does this sound like a logical idea to you?

Get baptized, and turn from your sin.
You don't need to dip yourself into bath water, to start living positively. It's called a choice, you make one and follow through with it.

Know you are going to heaven by doing these three simple things.

Read the bible to find strength and knowledge in God and His path for your life.
I can read the Karan, Torah, and the Kebra Negast to find strength and knowledge in God. These books don't qualify me a spot in la-la land. They help me in my spiritual journey.

 

[Zaehet Strife]

If you want to be wise, start by treating others with loving kindness.

Coming from someone who at the start and middle of the thread literally stated that non-believers who have heard the world of the christian doctrine will be tortured and suffer for all the rest of eternity when they die... how ironic huh?

Either way, all of your supernatural experiences have the possibility of being tampered with by "Reficule" , so your sincerity and certainty only point to your desperation that your supernatural beliefs be deemed 100% true, but the truth is, that they may be wrong.

You are full of more contradictions than Schrodinger's cat in a box.

 

[EddyBaked]

Fuck Jesus he gave me a shitty life

 

[Padawanbater2]

...hey, Pad. I'd like to add a couple of cents here. If you study that book from the perspective of 'conquering' one's base nature - the instinctual, mechanical parts. Those who try receive help, that's the implication. Enemies are always within. It is war, in that sense. Sadly, most people are warring the effects of causes they themselves created. The devil is always outside, never inside. BS. We've got it wrong.

I don't understand what that means

 

[420circuit]

I can assure you, he in no way was referring to the Abrahamic God of the Bible. Any of Sagans work shows that.

He was referring to Einstein's quote, not his belief. The debate was attended by mostly science people, so the crowd would respond to some of the biblical references by laughing, which prompted scolding of the crowd by Sagan. The crowd erupted in laughter when the bible defender responded to a question about the fossil record by saying it was a trick by the devil. Carl took the stage and described a beautiful universe that maybe, according to some evidence, is oscillating. You could have heard a pin drop as he said, "but you don't have to decide right now."

The Planetary Society hosted the event and a short time later hosted an event at JPL in Pasadena, to watch the feed from the Voyager mission.

 

[Padawanbater2]

There's no getting through to this guy and he refuses to engage in honest dialogue

Your disingenuous rants and bible quotes don't impress anyone, most of us here have seen and heard it all before and the strongest thing you can come back with is "the bible is truth because the bible says it's true!"

Well gee wiz, you don't say..