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But lets follow your line of logic - most all jobs can be replaced with technology, therefor most all jobs are handouts. Are single women with kids using drugs? If not this doesn't effect them.

Do you live in a city? In San Fransisco they can't use booms - the garbage men work their asses off running into the back of buildings down narrow narrow alleys hauling heavy heavy loads. Pretty bold (and arrogant) of you to say it's easy work.

Hehe, must have missed the point. 200,000/year is nothing compared to the 750 million in just three months of road work, which is nothing compared to the 118billion in State welfare expenditures... Shrx was under the impression that 249K/year for a state is a big loss - I was trying to...

MG organic bone meal runs pretty hot. It's good stuff though just don't load it on like you would a typical bonemeal. Best application method is to stir it into the soil as much as possible.

So I've been crunching numbers and talking to distributors and it looks like I might have to scrap the reds. I think I can stay at the $1/w ratio if I go with just 10 white 30w arrays. I'm thinking 5:5 neutral:warm. Should be cheaper and I get to run more wattage. Now I cant decide if I want...

How did you get to this state? You lost all of your money all in one day along with your job, your friends, and your family? Seriously? Give me a break.

Hehe, so if it cost them $246,000. That means as long as 10 people didn't file due to the law the state came out in the green. To have a statistical decline in numbers, as reported, more than 10 claims would have to be impacted...

Wait, these people can't afford $34 in order to make thousands for doing nothing? And they are drug users? And you think they are going to be able to eventually get a job? Why are you opposed to them just going to rehab?

Did you miss this one? The answer is 750,000,000. Guess how much the state spent on welfare last year?

Wow... the first fucking line, you have to be kidding me: "The tests have had a net cost to the state but the state has also seen a decline in the number of applicants appears." Guess how much CA has spent on road projects in the past three months?

You've got to be kidding me. You apparently have no idea of the value of money in government terms. $200,000 is nothing. It wouldn't get you any program, isn't going to create any jobs. And where are these figures on Florida? Can I have a link? How do we know how many people didn't file...

lol. Yup, I would totally give a half a cent to discourage abuse of the system. Hell, I'll contribute my part and yours and contribute a whole penny.

200,000 is a tiny tiny tiny tiny number. You realize that right? To be honest I would be in total support if each state would only loose 200k.

You must have missed my very first post: Is Florida a big welfare state? (honestly don't know and too lazy to look it up) I think they have pretty strict drug laws as well.

I doubt it. Think about a suburb versus a city... It's MUCH more than 4x as dense than the suburbs.

How about everyone that works at Boeing? Boeing is contracted by the government and receives a huge portion of their income from the US. They all lazy asses? The underpaid court clerk that holds terrible hours for shitty pay? The janitors?

The guy in the suburbs' company is receiving government money... They are contracted through the city.

Really? So if you're a garbage man and work really hard your entire life its the same as sitting at home?

If you are on welfare you are having an economic crisis right? If you are having an economic crisis you should cut back on spending right? To cut back on spending you get rid of luxuries right? Are drugs luxuries? Are they expensive luxuries? Are they habit forming luxuries? Now think...

Handouts are not the same as being reimbursed for your time. For instance if the government contracts with the company you work for you are recieving tax dollars... that's not the same as receiving handouts.