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Hmm. Care to elaborate on how Spider Farmer happened to arrive at a "balanced spectrum"? Do they have the data to back that claim?

If humans didn't look at nature and think "hmm, I think we can do better than that", we'd be living in caves right now, foraging for our food on the daily. In fact, what could be more "natural" for a human but to tinker with nature? Seems to come "naturally" to us...

Yeah, happy as I am with the way this turned out (and frankly a little excited to geek over new, different diodes), I do have to say it's strange that they called these v1 boards. I suppose it's simply because they are of comparable performance, but calling them v1.5, or v2-eco, or v3-lite (or...

I figured it had to be something like that. Thanks for the clarification! I'm very curious about how/why you came to use these diodes in place of the 561C, and whether or not you intend to offer these new v1 boards on a continuing basis?

Back under the bridge with you.

Interesting. Well, if Lumiled has a 2835 diode of comparable efficiency to the 561C, I'm okay with the change. It's still odd that the change wasn't publicized though?

Very nice plants, but... You're claiming 7g/w and then stating that it's speculative?

Thanks, didn't look that deeply at the specs, so good to know. This is so very odd. I would have expected this information to come out before now?

The most efficient 2835 I can find (from Samsung) is the LM281B+, at 165 lm/w luminous efficacy. Very curious. If it's being labeled as a v1 board, I would expect the board-level efficiency to be at least equivalent to the 561C-based v1 boards, but I don't see how that would be possible.

Oh, and no logo, but "Horticultural Lighting Group" is stamped along the edge.

Same as @ilovereggae - straight from HLG and they have 2835 printed on the boards.

Well my old v1 boards, both QB288 and QB120, certainly are 561Cs, but I'm having difficulty finding any examples of LM561C in a 2835 form-factor. As far as I knew, it was only a 5630.

Question for @Stephenj37826 - I took a closer look at the v1 QB288s I just bought, and noticed that the diodes are using the 2835 form-factor. I was out of the scene for quite a while, so maybe I missed something that everyone else knows, but did Samsung put out the LM561C in form-factors other...

Budget?

Preach.

I think their presence on social media is the biggest factor in their success. They made sure to stay in the public eye, which is like money in the bank.

Spectrums and output?

Personally, I think leafy bud makes for better joints. The really dense stuff typically goes in the bowl or bong. (Sounds like @Budzbuddha is making concentrates anyway though.)

Was that Ace's Malawi? How'd you like it?

Yeah, I suppose it depends on how many hands you have on deck and how much you're harvesting at a time. For the wife and I, it's just easier to get the trimming out of the way at chop, rather than deal with any of it later. But I suppose a gradual, staggered trim could be the best of both worlds?