jyermum
Active Member
Zombie plants are no joke, especially around all hallows eve!! Heres one of the standing dead now.
20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction
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Wolverine97
Well-Known Member
What's wrong with your monkey?
Beansly
RIU Bulldog
He guys' maybe you could help me out. Rather than link you to my new thread, Ill just ask you here
I was wondering if one of you fine folks could point me toward a strain the consistently finishes within 60 days for my short flowering needs. The strain should either be connoisseur quality (high potency-small yields) or if it's not the strongest bud in the world, it should have at least an average yield.
I was thinking some cindy99 from either Dutch Grown Seeds, Mosca or Joey Weed, but any potent, short-flowering strain would be fine.
I'm not looking for a strain that has phenos that finish short. I'd like a strain that has a reputation for short flowering and consistently finishes fast. Thanks.
I was wondering if one of you fine folks could point me toward a strain the consistently finishes within 60 days for my short flowering needs. The strain should either be connoisseur quality (high potency-small yields) or if it's not the strongest bud in the world, it should have at least an average yield.
I was thinking some cindy99 from either Dutch Grown Seeds, Mosca or Joey Weed, but any potent, short-flowering strain would be fine.
I'm not looking for a strain that has phenos that finish short. I'd like a strain that has a reputation for short flowering and consistently finishes fast. Thanks.
collective gardener
Well-Known Member
Pics 6 and 9 (orange ones) were taken yesterday. I wanted to show the type of canopy that can lead to a monkey problem. These are escaped lab monkeys gone feral...the worst for a grow room. They're used to indoor environments, and are not afraid of people. So far the damage has been limitted to broken branches and unplugging fans. The light timers were monkey proofed years ago, so that's not an issue.
Most of the mature bud pics are from the last harvest...the AN Nute harvest. The size of the buds were amazing. They were dense as fuck, too. We ended up with less than an ounce of non-AAA grade buds. That was mainly from accurate pruning. The "twin towers" pic is one plant that shot 2 identical main branches.
Enjoy, folks.
collective gardener
Well-Known Member
Monkey guy finally called back. $1,200 PER MONKEY!!! I have at least 3. Had to tell him to do it. What can I do. One of them keeps kinking the hose when I'm watering. Get ready, Kitty. You have 3 highly adaptable monkeys coming your way. Paybacks for some of that nasty Beastie Bud you guys sent down a few years back! LMAO.
mellokitty
Moderatrix of Journals
wtf??? you weren't kidding about "somewhere in bc" ? (although i have a pretty good idea what area they're shootin for....)
why not just SELL them to a large op as guard monkeys? i'm sure SOMEONE'll buy them.... remember, we use bears to guard our ops around here...
edit: YOU GOT THE SOFT COOLER???? i've been gunning for one of those for like a year now.....
why not just SELL them to a large op as guard monkeys? i'm sure SOMEONE'll buy them.... remember, we use bears to guard our ops around here...
edit: YOU GOT THE SOFT COOLER???? i've been gunning for one of those for like a year now.....
Wolverine97
Well-Known Member
You shut your dirty mouth.
Jozikins
Well-Known Member
I reckon you are right about that part, didn't even think about the incredible amount of O2 that is gobbled up in aeroponics. I've seen vast improvements from adding a carbohydrate, but this is all situational, I know a few times I was deficient in a few things that carb had to offer. But I do firmly believe that I can feed additonal carbs to keep my roots healthy without suffocating them, especially if I am using a lot of phosphorus that may be killing off my herd consistently. Anyways, this whole conversation spurred a million new conversations for me, my head isn't spinning trying to get settled into my new place, I am going to look as deep into it as possible and share the info I find. Your garden update looks GREAT by the way, those are by far your biggest fattest buds with the most frost on them so far. I saw a deficiency on them though, I think you mentioned it when it happened, what exactly was it again?
What I really want to know, if this can translate over to cannabis cultivation, is how does it effect amino forms of N in your flowers? It's too bad these things always dead end right here, and you can never find it being tested else where.... At least I am by far to lazy too look it up right now. Dear lord I feel lazy, I slept in until noon today, and now I just want to rot all day. lol.thats funny i just heard about reducing your simple carbs with soy or braggs liquid aminos in flower to promote fungal growth...
i little to back this up and bump collective to a fresh page i think
Amino Acid Content of Leaves in Mycorrhizal and Non-mycorrhizal Citrus Rootstocks
Nitrogen status was examined in leaves of sour orange and rough lemon citrus rootstocks grown in a low phosphorus sand inoculated with Glomus etunicatus, in sand amended with superphosphate at a rate of 2240 kg ha−1, and in a sand control left untreated. Sour orange was 3.1- and 3.5-fold taller and rough lemon was 1.8- and 2.0-fold taller than the controls in the inoculated and phosphorus treatments, respectively. In the controls, leaf N was up to 2.5-fold higher than in the other treatments. Both total and free amino acids accumulated in leaves of both rootstocks to higher levels in the control than in the other treatments. Most total amino acids in the control were lower than in the treatments, with the exceptions of arginine (up to 12-fold increase), proline (up to 1.8-fold increase), lysine, and free ammonia. Twenty-two free amino acids, urea, and ammonia were detected. Both rootstocks grown in control sand had significant increases in citrulline, ornithine, lysine, histidine, arginine and ammonia. Levels of total and most free amino acids in the inoculated and phosphorus treatments were similar to one another. It is suggested that mineral deficiency caused by the absence of G. etunicatus causes a reorganization of N-metabolism with a shift to a greater synthesis of ornithine cycle intermediates.
now i dont know the ramifacations of this for ganja but its cool to think that the plant reacts more than i ever though to the introduction of one new species of sub culture so more work is needed in testing innoculated well fed soil vs not in terpine and amino peptide uptake links...
collective gardener
Well-Known Member
Thank you for that tid bit, Officer. I'm sure there are other threads who would appreciate your opinions, as well. Here's an idea: Go to an LED thread and say "Led's have no place in any type of indoor garden." This should get you the reaction that you're so obviously looking for. You're not going to get it here. But, what you will get is me forwarding your little comment to about a hundred different people in here, many of whom will appreciate it FAR less than I. One more post here, and that's exactly what I will do.
nattybongo
Active Member
Nice thread collective gardener. =)
C.Indica
Well-Known Member
Bahahahahahaha.
By the way I see your harvest shots, don't bother sending a shot for that PM.
But I did get a very good idea on their final shape.
Oh and kitty, thanks for the link to that Cuban article, had to bookmark it.
collective gardener
Well-Known Member
Hey, thanks for all the super positive comments. Shit.
One time Kitty posted that she wished she could explain what it's like to be a grower in BC. I'm starting to feel similar stirrings. The secrecy of this lifestyle tends to bottle up emotions that would otherwise be released on a regular basis. Guys go to the pub and bitch about work all the time. Career victories are celebrated. Job stresses are talked about and worked through with friends, family, and other people at work. Most people talk about their careers all the time...and with a broad range of people. Not so much in this line.
I started growing with my cousin as a partner in 1990. As we were discussing how not to get caught, he told me "if you need to talk to somebody, call me...only me". He already knew the pressures of an underground lifestyle. In fact, he had just gotten released from prison when we started doing this. He knew all to well that the vast majority of busted guys were the result of rats. I had dabbled in brokering some large pot buys, but nothing full time. I had a real job, made good $$$, had a great house, had a cool chick...life was good. What I didn't know was that entering into this secret world would come with a cost. It seems simple...just don't tell anybody. It is simple. But it's not easy. I've never been the same. Before grow op my life was totally transparent. I never had any secrets or anything to be ashamed of. Ever since then an ever increasing portion of my life has been a secret...known only to the Chosen Few.
This thread has been a great place for me to vent a little. And, of course, laws have changed and the need for absolute secrecy has given way to having lawyers and plants counts. But secrecy is still very important...if not for the cops, for the thieves. Most of you have probably noticed that there are several things I never mention on this thread. Even here I have to "sensor" what I say. A smart person could go through the thread and piece together my approx yield is Lbs/month, but I never say it. And I would never talk about how much money I make. That's rude in any line. Location, of course doesn't come up. Then there's the secrets of other people. I have alot of friends with big ass grow ops. They have placed their very lives and freedom in my hands. But, when you see some of these ops you just HAVE to share it with someone. Before this thread I wouldn't say a word. It's been nice to be able to share some of their stories here without violating their trust in me.
When Kitty said she wanted people to know what it was like, she was frustrated because she knew that no matter how much or how good she wrote, very few people would actually be able to feel what she has felt. The growing experience is a complex and emotional issue. It's one thing to have a 4k bedroom grow op. It's another to have made a living on growing for the vast majority of your adult life. It becomes a big part of who you are. It can become who you are. I've lived in several states, lived with several women, had several houses, and have had several "real" jobs. The one constant has been growing. Everytime I would break up with a girlfriend I would start a massive grow op. Out with the girl, in with the plants.
I could write for a dozen pages explaining just one grow op, and all the feelings that went with it. It's been a lifetime of wonderful experiences. Growing can be so fufilling, and yet draining all at the same time. It evokes many more emotions than other careers. There's so much at stake all the time. I'm going to try and convey some of those feelings here once in a while. I know that I love hearing Kitty's experiences as a BC grower. I hope that someone may get a kick out of some of my experiences as a California commercial grower.
One time Kitty posted that she wished she could explain what it's like to be a grower in BC. I'm starting to feel similar stirrings. The secrecy of this lifestyle tends to bottle up emotions that would otherwise be released on a regular basis. Guys go to the pub and bitch about work all the time. Career victories are celebrated. Job stresses are talked about and worked through with friends, family, and other people at work. Most people talk about their careers all the time...and with a broad range of people. Not so much in this line.
I started growing with my cousin as a partner in 1990. As we were discussing how not to get caught, he told me "if you need to talk to somebody, call me...only me". He already knew the pressures of an underground lifestyle. In fact, he had just gotten released from prison when we started doing this. He knew all to well that the vast majority of busted guys were the result of rats. I had dabbled in brokering some large pot buys, but nothing full time. I had a real job, made good $$$, had a great house, had a cool chick...life was good. What I didn't know was that entering into this secret world would come with a cost. It seems simple...just don't tell anybody. It is simple. But it's not easy. I've never been the same. Before grow op my life was totally transparent. I never had any secrets or anything to be ashamed of. Ever since then an ever increasing portion of my life has been a secret...known only to the Chosen Few.
This thread has been a great place for me to vent a little. And, of course, laws have changed and the need for absolute secrecy has given way to having lawyers and plants counts. But secrecy is still very important...if not for the cops, for the thieves. Most of you have probably noticed that there are several things I never mention on this thread. Even here I have to "sensor" what I say. A smart person could go through the thread and piece together my approx yield is Lbs/month, but I never say it. And I would never talk about how much money I make. That's rude in any line. Location, of course doesn't come up. Then there's the secrets of other people. I have alot of friends with big ass grow ops. They have placed their very lives and freedom in my hands. But, when you see some of these ops you just HAVE to share it with someone. Before this thread I wouldn't say a word. It's been nice to be able to share some of their stories here without violating their trust in me.
When Kitty said she wanted people to know what it was like, she was frustrated because she knew that no matter how much or how good she wrote, very few people would actually be able to feel what she has felt. The growing experience is a complex and emotional issue. It's one thing to have a 4k bedroom grow op. It's another to have made a living on growing for the vast majority of your adult life. It becomes a big part of who you are. It can become who you are. I've lived in several states, lived with several women, had several houses, and have had several "real" jobs. The one constant has been growing. Everytime I would break up with a girlfriend I would start a massive grow op. Out with the girl, in with the plants.
I could write for a dozen pages explaining just one grow op, and all the feelings that went with it. It's been a lifetime of wonderful experiences. Growing can be so fufilling, and yet draining all at the same time. It evokes many more emotions than other careers. There's so much at stake all the time. I'm going to try and convey some of those feelings here once in a while. I know that I love hearing Kitty's experiences as a BC grower. I hope that someone may get a kick out of some of my experiences as a California commercial grower.
Beansly
RIU Bulldog
I wish I could've heard this when I was just starting out not 8 months ago. Not that I would change my decision to grow, but I might have been more prepared for the road ahead of me. Idk about some of the other growers here, but I like how, I think it was c.indica put it; "I'm all in". I've known for a decade that I wanted to spend my life growing and have been writing journals and journals full of notes and plans since I smoked high-grade (what we here generically call 'chronic') for the first time in 1998. I was only 14 then, but I knew what I wanted to do.
Think you for your wisdom CG.
mellokitty
Moderatrix of Journals
you're making me all teary and shit, cg....
Wolverine97
Well-Known Member
There's no crying in growing! Put your big girl panties on kitty...
Bird Gymnastics
New Member
Amazing story bro. It's growers like you that make little guys like me want to keep expanding. Your mission and goals for the growing world are ideal and I can only hope to be as good as a grower as you some day. Keep the posts coming and the stories flowing! Also stay safe out there. Things have been getting murky in AZ so I can only imagine how Cali has been. Happy growing my friend 