20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

legallyflying

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hey gang, posting to auto sub. Really interested in the inductive lamps I am in the market for a new veg lamp for my early-mid veg tent. Its 6' x 5' and I have a mover available as well. Just hard to get that width adequately lit. Anywho, kudos to everyone for a great thread with no hater flamer dick head trolls ruining it.
 

Wolverine97

Well-Known Member
hey gang, posting to auto sub. Really interested in the inductive lamps I am in the market for a new veg lamp for my early-mid veg tent. Its 6' x 5' and I have a mover available as well. Just hard to get that width adequately lit. Anywho, kudos to everyone for a great thread with no hater flamer dick head trolls ruining it.
Yeah, man this here thread is a good'n. I don't think CG ever got to try out the induction lamps IIRC.
Sorry about what's going on over on your current thread. UB knew exactly what I was getting at with questioning his medium, which is why he never answered. Now the whole troop from his other site is trolling it...
 

dapio

Well-Known Member
Hey, thanks for all the super positive comments. Shit.

One time Kitty posted that she wished she could explain what it's like to be a grower in BC. I'm starting to feel similar stirrings. The secrecy of this lifestyle tends to bottle up emotions that would otherwise be released on a regular basis. Guys go to the pub and bitch about work all the time. Career victories are celebrated. Job stresses are talked about and worked through with friends, family, and other people at work. Most people talk about their careers all the time...and with a broad range of people. Not so much in this line.

I started growing with my cousin as a partner in 1990. As we were discussing how not to get caught, he told me "if you need to talk to somebody, call me...only me". He already knew the pressures of an underground lifestyle. In fact, he had just gotten released from prison when we started doing this. He knew all to well that the vast majority of busted guys were the result of rats. I had dabbled in brokering some large pot buys, but nothing full time. I had a real job, made good $$$, had a great house, had a cool chick...life was good. What I didn't know was that entering into this secret world would come with a cost. It seems simple...just don't tell anybody. It is simple. But it's not easy. I've never been the same. Before grow op my life was totally transparent. I never had any secrets or anything to be ashamed of. Ever since then an ever increasing portion of my life has been a secret...known only to the Chosen Few.

This thread has been a great place for me to vent a little. And, of course, laws have changed and the need for absolute secrecy has given way to having lawyers and plants counts. But secrecy is still very important...if not for the cops, for the thieves. Most of you have probably noticed that there are several things I never mention on this thread. Even here I have to "sensor" what I say. A smart person could go through the thread and piece together my approx yield is Lbs/month, but I never say it. And I would never talk about how much money I make. That's rude in any line. Location, of course doesn't come up. Then there's the secrets of other people. I have alot of friends with big ass grow ops. They have placed their very lives and freedom in my hands. But, when you see some of these ops you just HAVE to share it with someone. Before this thread I wouldn't say a word. It's been nice to be able to share some of their stories here without violating their trust in me.

When Kitty said she wanted people to know what it was like, she was frustrated because she knew that no matter how much or how good she wrote, very few people would actually be able to feel what she has felt. The growing experience is a complex and emotional issue. It's one thing to have a 4k bedroom grow op. It's another to have made a living on growing for the vast majority of your adult life. It becomes a big part of who you are. It can become who you are. I've lived in several states, lived with several women, had several houses, and have had several "real" jobs. The one constant has been growing. Everytime I would break up with a girlfriend I would start a massive grow op. Out with the girl, in with the plants.

I could write for a dozen pages explaining just one grow op, and all the feelings that went with it. It's been a lifetime of wonderful experiences. Growing can be so fufilling, and yet draining all at the same time. It evokes many more emotions than other careers. There's so much at stake all the time. I'm going to try and convey some of those feelings here once in a while. I know that I love hearing Kitty's experiences as a BC grower. I hope that someone may get a kick out of some of my experiences as a California commercial grower.
This is real stuff bro its nice to hear the input of someone like yourself I am sure your lifestyle was a wild one always hearing other people bitch about a world they believe is real and the stress it causes them but it takes a lot to live in secrecy I am sure the number 1 rule is don't get caught and second don't trust anyone its all or nothing in this field. Forgive me to use the word organized crime but if you have ever looked in to that era you would know all of these people failed because their work benefited no one but themselves. MMJ is a lone survivor in itself it takes hard work and discipline to do what you and others have accomplished in terms of mass production and turning it into a profitable business the bill of rights holds strong to your lifestyle it is quite a weapon as well as having the heart to go through life in secrecy even if it means being alone. Anyways a girl, a house, a car sounds like the American dream to me bro congratulations to you man I wish you many years of happiness keep freedom alive!
 

C.Indica

Well-Known Member
CG, I feel for you.
I am in the midst of that very 'transparent' lifestyle, and I try to be as blunt and honest as I can.
But the further I dive into this hobby, the more of me becomes a ghost except to the close ones.

Honestly I was going downhil until I started my first plant. Didn't know what I wanted to do with myself..
After a while people gave me houseplants, and I started my first garden last spring.

Now I full on want to get into Agriculture, and I've got this renewed love of life.
Started playing my Cello again, and ohhh man am I glad I did.


Thanks for the amazing experiences you're sharing with us CG.
 

collective gardener

Well-Known Member
Legally Flying, never tried the Induction light . The one I was sent was like 50 watts. As always, get the biggest one you can...I think right now that's the 400 watt. Let us know how it goes.

Wolverine, UB still? Again? My god.

Dapio, Interesting point about organized crime. As far as trust, it's quite the opposite for me. When I do trust someone, I trust them fully. Most pot deals are still based on trust. I brokered a deal in the mid 90's for 300Lbs of NL#5. It was over a million bucks. I was introduced to the grower's rep as a trustworthy guy, and he handed me the 300 Lbs. I took it to the buyer in So Cal, who I barely knew, but was spoken for by a close friend. He gave me the cash. I paid the grower. Anyone couldve fucked up the deal, but no one did. Trust.
 

Wolverine97

Well-Known Member
Legally Flying, never tried the Induction light . The one I was sent was like 50 watts. As always, get the biggest one you can...I think right now that's the 400 watt. Let us know how it goes.

Wolverine, UB still? Again? My god.

Dapio, Interesting point about organized crime. As far as trust, it's quite the opposite for me. When I do trust someone, I trust them fully. Most pot deals are still based on trust. I brokered a deal in the mid 90's for 300Lbs of NL#5. It was over a million bucks. I was introduced to the grower's rep as a trustworthy guy, and he handed me the 300 Lbs. I took it to the buyer in So Cal, who I barely knew, but was spoken for by a close friend. He gave me the cash. I paid the grower. Anyone couldve fucked up the deal, but no one did. Trust.
Yeah, he's been in full-on troll mode all week.
 

collective gardener

Well-Known Member
Yeah, he's been in full-on troll mode all week.
My need to watch train wrecks has overcome my good sense. Shoot me the link(s).

I actually tried to like him for a while, thinking he was a tallented grower, just with some attitude. But, when he actually claimed to have invented a simple topping technique, I gave up. Do u remember that shit? He was serious.
 

dapio

Well-Known Member
300 pounds a million dollars cash? You are a straight boss break out the louie vuitton duffle bags! I could die happy ever getting the chance to work with someone like yourself
 

Wolverine97

Well-Known Member
My need to watch train wrecks has overcome my good sense. Shoot me the link(s).

I actually tried to like him for a while, thinking he was a tallented grower, just with some attitude. But, when he actually claimed to have invented a simple topping technique, I gave up. Do u remember that shit? He was serious.
Ask and ye shall receive. I'm really torn on UB, the last time he got banned I was a little pissed because he does possess a lot of great knowledge, he just has a hard time interacting with the general population I guess. I've generally been respectful with him since I do respect his opinion, but I disagree with him a lot. The thing that gets me the most is the group of people who follow him around bashing anyone who dares challenge him. Here are a couple of the threads: The last one I think is a good thread, not trolling (obvs since it's his thread).

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/474924-could-kelp-extracts-waste-money.html

https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/416210-bushmaster-works-period-gravity-works.html

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/479798-snake-oil-horticultural-myths-horticultural.html
 

slk

Well-Known Member
Hey, thanks for all the super positive comments. Shit.

One time Kitty posted that she wished she could explain what it's like to be a grower in BC. I'm starting to feel similar stirrings. The secrecy of this lifestyle tends to bottle up emotions that would otherwise be released on a regular basis. Guys go to the pub and bitch about work all the time. Career victories are celebrated. Job stresses are talked about and worked through with friends, family, and other people at work. Most people talk about their careers all the time...and with a broad range of people. Not so much in this line.

I started growing with my cousin as a partner in 1990. As we were discussing how not to get caught, he told me "if you need to talk to somebody, call me...only me". He already knew the pressures of an underground lifestyle. In fact, he had just gotten released from prison when we started doing this. He knew all to well that the vast majority of busted guys were the result of rats. I had dabbled in brokering some large pot buys, but nothing full time. I had a real job, made good $$$, had a great house, had a cool chick...life was good. What I didn't know was that entering into this secret world would come with a cost. It seems simple...just don't tell anybody. It is simple. But it's not easy. I've never been the same. Before grow op my life was totally transparent. I never had any secrets or anything to be ashamed of. Ever since then an ever increasing portion of my life has been a secret...known only to the Chosen Few.

This thread has been a great place for me to vent a little. And, of course, laws have changed and the need for absolute secrecy has given way to having lawyers and plants counts. But secrecy is still very important...if not for the cops, for the thieves. Most of you have probably noticed that there are several things I never mention on this thread. Even here I have to "sensor" what I say. A smart person could go through the thread and piece together my approx yield is Lbs/month, but I never say it. And I would never talk about how much money I make. That's rude in any line. Location, of course doesn't come up. Then there's the secrets of other people. I have alot of friends with big ass grow ops. They have placed their very lives and freedom in my hands. But, when you see some of these ops you just HAVE to share it with someone. Before this thread I wouldn't say a word. It's been nice to be able to share some of their stories here without violating their trust in me.

When Kitty said she wanted people to know what it was like, she was frustrated because she knew that no matter how much or how good she wrote, very few people would actually be able to feel what she has felt. The growing experience is a complex and emotional issue. It's one thing to have a 4k bedroom grow op. It's another to have made a living on growing for the vast majority of your adult life. It becomes a big part of who you are. It can become who you are. I've lived in several states, lived with several women, had several houses, and have had several "real" jobs. The one constant has been growing. Everytime I would break up with a girlfriend I would start a massive grow op. Out with the girl, in with the plants.

I could write for a dozen pages explaining just one grow op, and all the feelings that went with it. It's been a lifetime of wonderful experiences. Growing can be so fufilling, and yet draining all at the same time. It evokes many more emotions than other careers. There's so much at stake all the time. I'm going to try and convey some of those feelings here once in a while. I know that I love hearing Kitty's experiences as a BC grower. I hope that someone may get a kick out of some of my experiences as a California commercial grower.



CG that is so well said I thought you were talking about me.

I have been following this thread the beginning and I follow you word as gospel I absorb it like a spong. I am a 6000k system. As you post diferant processes of any stage I take that inf downstairs and apply it.
Thank you for sharing you knowlage with us + rep's dude.
 

kckid816

Active Member
Hey, thanks for all the super positive comments. Shit.

One time Kitty posted that she wished she could explain what it's like to be a grower in BC. I'm starting to feel similar stirrings. The secrecy of this lifestyle tends to bottle up emotions that would otherwise be released on a regular basis. Guys go to the pub and bitch about work all the time. Career victories are celebrated. Job stresses are talked about and worked through with friends, family, and other people at work. Most people talk about their careers all the time...and with a broad range of people. Not so much in this line.

I started growing with my cousin as a partner in 1990. As we were discussing how not to get caught, he told me "if you need to talk to somebody, call me...only me". He already knew the pressures of an underground lifestyle. In fact, he had just gotten released from prison when we started doing this. He knew all to well that the vast majority of busted guys were the result of rats. I had dabbled in brokering some large pot buys, but nothing full time. I had a real job, made good $$$, had a great house, had a cool chick...life was good. What I didn't know was that entering into this secret world would come with a cost. It seems simple...just don't tell anybody. It is simple. But it's not easy. I've never been the same. Before grow op my life was totally transparent. I never had any secrets or anything to be ashamed of. Ever since then an ever increasing portion of my life has been a secret...known only to the Chosen Few.

This thread has been a great place for me to vent a little. And, of course, laws have changed and the need for absolute secrecy has given way to having lawyers and plants counts. But secrecy is still very important...if not for the cops, for the thieves. Most of you have probably noticed that there are several things I never mention on this thread. Even here I have to "sensor" what I say. A smart person could go through the thread and piece together my approx yield is Lbs/month, but I never say it. And I would never talk about how much money I make. That's rude in any line. Location, of course doesn't come up. Then there's the secrets of other people. I have alot of friends with big ass grow ops. They have placed their very lives and freedom in my hands. But, when you see some of these ops you just HAVE to share it with someone. Before this thread I wouldn't say a word. It's been nice to be able to share some of their stories here without violating their trust in me.

When Kitty said she wanted people to know what it was like, she was frustrated because she knew that no matter how much or how good she wrote, very few people would actually be able to feel what she has felt. The growing experience is a complex and emotional issue. It's one thing to have a 4k bedroom grow op. It's another to have made a living on growing for the vast majority of your adult life. It becomes a big part of who you are. It can become who you are. I've lived in several states, lived with several women, had several houses, and have had several "real" jobs. The one constant has been growing. Everytime I would break up with a girlfriend I would start a massive grow op. Out with the girl, in with the plants.

I could write for a dozen pages explaining just one grow op, and all the feelings that went with it. It's been a lifetime of wonderful experiences. Growing can be so fufilling, and yet draining all at the same time. It evokes many more emotions than other careers. There's so much at stake all the time. I'm going to try and convey some of those feelings here once in a while. I know that I love hearing Kitty's experiences as a BC grower. I hope that someone may get a kick out of some of my experiences as a California commercial grower.
I feel you on this. I'm not commercial by any stretch of the means but I've been around and party to shit that simply can't be discussed. That shit eats at you over the years. Great post.
 

legallyflying

Well-Known Member
Well I am in the process of doing the mandatory induction light research. Its only $600 for a 400 watt that they say will cover 5x5 or 6x6. I'll let you know what I come up with. I am a little behind in terms of cash flow for my crops as an out of town power failure in week 4-5 pretty much fucked me. I have never cursed at a GFCI outlet so hard in my life :(

I'll let you know what I find out and post it here. To be quite honest, I am a little tired of starting threads in the "general population" of this forum.
 

collective gardener

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UB and I have gone toe to toe several times. Moderator had to step in and hose us down. I took a breath, and came back to UB for a truce. Well, he doesn't really play that. So, I went back at his throat and damn near got booted from the whole site. That's when I stopped posting for a few months.

Legally, I wouldn't try to light any bigger than around 2x3 to 3x4 with a 400 watt induction light. They light a rectangle best, but will not exceed what a 1000hps can do.

Dapio, I guess my point was, there are no Louie Vuitton bags in big weed deals. I've met a few people who tried to make it that way...like they were some kind of "weed gangster". These were low level want to be's who will most likely end up in prison. I won't even talk to people like that now. I like the people who have the money but never show it. Commercial J could drive whatever car he wanted to. He drives a 10 year old Honda Accord 4 door. Anyone who spends their first hundred grand on a car wilkl not be around long. The first hundred goes into the legal defense fund. Just give your attorney 20k right off the bat. This way he'll take your calls and you have a few hrs of credit.
 

DrFever

New Member
hey Gardener i like way your doc says you can grow up to 99 plants what would DEA or FBI do i they caught you ????? i read every day on these medical MJ grow ops getting raided Why ???? because its illiegal Period

Federal agents reportedly raided several medical marijuana operations in the San Fernando Valley on Wednesday. Agents from multiple federal agencies including the Drug Enforcement Administration, assisted by the Los Angeles Police Department, uncovered pot growing warehouses, according to spokesperson Laura Eimiller.


"Multiple search warrants were executed," Eimiller said. "It involved multiple agencies including the FBI, DEA, LAPD and the ATF and ICE."

i jus tfind it funny when you think a doctors note gives any person a right to grow in any scale have you called your local DEA and mention to them your doin a grow :))
 
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