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Fogdog

Fogdog

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Budley Doright said:
Don’t forget federally legal pot. But to clarify we only mock your president. Jeesh what happened? Hopefully that will end soon enough and all will be right, eh!
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To Trumpkins, Canada's success IS mocking them. They want to believe that lower taxes, prolific gun availability, medical care for only the ones who can pay for it out of their own pockets and so forth is the best way to go. Yet here is our neighbor quietly reading the paper, minding their own business and succeeding doing exactly the opposite.

It is a damn mockery of the Conservative States Of Amerika and Trumpkins won't have any of it.

Same goes with California but different thread.
 
outliergenetix

outliergenetix

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Fogdog said:
Yeah

Having effective gun laws, a first rate government run health care system, taking in refugees fleeing from the US due to Trump's immigration program, a socially liberal (compared to the US) government, all the while doing economically quite well

Yeah, Canada mocks the US.
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again idk where i said u.s.a was any better regarding theoff topic things you mentioned, however since you brought em up imo you are understating it greatly when you say "socially liberal". i don't call bill c-16 socially liberal. i call it an attack on freedom. it also worries me when any government wants to disarm it's citizens, and as for their wonderful social medicine program last i checked a cpl years ago there was a 4 month wait for NECESSARY medical treatments and they owned the title of 2nd most expensive medical system in the entire world. so if you think those are good things then canada is certainly for you
 
outliergenetix

outliergenetix

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Budley Doright said:
You are a very uninformed person. We do have a sex offender registry you imbicile. We do refuse entry to anyone that has a conviction, pot has been legal for 3 months so how many have been refused in that period? You should have the numbers? Your not smart.
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you cannot read. my entire point is you don't allow entry so idk why you are pointing that out as me being incorrect. and when i say sex offender registry i am referrign to a PUBLIC one. my bad for not clarifying that second part. and to be clear i think canada is correct in how they utilize sex offender registration, my pooint is only that they admonish the american version
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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outliergenetix said:
again idk where i said u.s.a was any better regarding theoff topic things you mentioned, however since you brought em up imo you are understating it greatly when you say "socially liberal". i don't call bill c-16 socially liberal. i call it an attack on freedom. it also worries me when any government wants to disarm it's citizens, and as for their wonderful social medicine program last i checked a cpl years ago there was a 4 month wait for NECESSARY medical treatments and they owned the title of 2nd most expensive medical system in the entire world. so if you think those are good things then canada is certainly for you
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There are people on this board who can tell you first hand experience with Canada's health system. I don't know where you got that number of four months so I can only say that Canadians love their health care system, especially when they see what we have over in the US. If it were awful, then it wouldn't be so highly regarded by the people who use it. I think you pulled up some bullshit number from a right wing propaganda site. Like I said, if it's so bad then why is it so popular?

Oh and the US pays twice what Canadians pay per capita for heath care and Canadian outcomes are better.



source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_the_healthcare_systems_in_Canada_and_the_United_States

Canada's human rights laws are an attack on freedom? That's pretty funny.

I get that a lot of people believe guns and freedom are linked. The thing is, plenty of people live in countries with reasonable gun control laws and their freedom is no less than ours. We have a horrendous death rate due to guns, not including suicide, that in a way says we are less free to safely move about in the US because of guns.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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outliergenetix said:
you cannot read. my entire point is you don't allow entry so idk why you are pointing that out as me being incorrect. and when i say sex offender registry i am referrign to a PUBLIC one. my bad for not clarifying that second part. and to be clear i think canada is correct in how they utilize sex offender registration, my pooint is only that they admonish the american version
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Who the fuck is “they”?
 
outliergenetix

outliergenetix

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Fogdog said:
There are people on this board who can tell you first hand experience with Canada's health system. I don't know where you got that number of four months so I can only say that Canadians love their health care system, especially when they see what we have over in the US. If it were awful, then it wouldn't be so highly regarded by the people who use it. I think you pulled up some bullshit number from a right wing propaganda site. Like I said, if it's so bad then why is it so popular?

Oh and the US pays twice what Canadians pay per capita for heath care and Canadian outcomes are better.



source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_the_healthcare_systems_in_Canada_and_the_United_States

Canada's human rights laws are an attack on freedom? That's pretty funny.

I get that a lot of people believe guns and freedom are linked. The thing is, plenty of people live in countries with reasonable gun control laws and their freedom is no less than ours. We have a horrendous death rate due to guns, not including suicide, that in a way says we are less free to safely move about in the US because of guns.
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they are real numbers i gave regarding the waiting list but as i said originally it was older from 2014 i think, but i am not "looking up facts" to make my point. tbh i didn't expect this much reaction from my original comment and i grow weary of the topic since i really don't give a crap about canada or the u.s.a.

As for the money/cost info you provided clearly a socialized system appears to cost the individual less if you're gonna leave out what they pay in taxes going towards the system duh. also you leave out the xtra cost a person with money pays if he wants care outside the system. meaning if i don't want to use the government because i cannot get the best treatment then the cost still falls on me so i am paying double in that case, and allot of ppl fall into these cases. if you had cancer are you gonna use your money to get the best treatment possible or just take what the canadian government says you can have? so in te end it is way way more expensive on the populace as a whole. if you look at the nuance not graphs designed with an agenda. plus i was refering to the COST of the system in totla not the individual's cost. aka the total money entering healthcare. this demonstrates the waste and inefficiency of a goverment funded social medicine system.

as to your other point it is popular because it is free so poor ppl all love it. allot of ppl with money, even middle class, can get their own private care still so they are largely uneffected by the negatives besides cost. then you have your left wing political types who make up half the population whom just think it's awesome they are "helping the poor" like most leer jet liberal types. of course those types do this in order to go about their excessive lives and not feel like pieces of shit. i just laid out like the majority of the population and why they would like it, but hopefully you can see how it doesn't speak to the quality of the system whatsoever. so that is how it can be popular and still be a bad idea.
 
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Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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outliergenetix said:
many canadians clearly.
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Well I have to say I’ve never heard anything remotely close to calling your laws barbaric. We typically leave that for China, Saudi Arabia, etc. I’m not sure where your getting your info but it seems a bit skewed. The only disrespect I’ve ever heard re the States is directed at your Twitter in Chief, pretty sure that sentiment is held now by a majority, well I sure hope it is. As for the French versus English thing, the tension between the two was largely brought to the forefront by the desire to separate from Canada, that tends to create a bit of tension. It has pretty much been a mute point since the referendum. The newer generation of Canadians do not possess the same feelings as the older generation (yes that includes me in the latter group). When disparaging another country it is normal to use comparisons of the country you reside in, hense the rebuttal with the US as the model. If not to compare, what is your point. Do we have issues as well? Yes we do, Ontario just elected Trump lite (actually a tad less smart than Trump, now that’s sad), who has stolen the playbook from your boy.
Edit: I do like the French in that they invented poutine and great strippers
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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outliergenetix said:
they are real numbers i gave regarding the waiting list but as i said originally it was older from 2014 i think, but i am not "looking up facts" to make my point. tbh i didn't expect this much reaction from my original comment and i grow weary of the topic since i really don't give a crap about canada or the u.s.a.

As for the money/cost info you provided clearly a socialized system appears to cost the individual less if you're gonna leave out what they pay in taxes going towards the system duh. also you leave out the xtra cost a person with money pays if he wants care outside the system. meaning if i don't want to use the government because i cannot get the best treatment then the cost still falls on me so i am paying double in that case, and allot of ppl fall into these cases. if you had cancer are you gonna use your money to get the best treatment possible or just take what the canadian government says you can have? so in te end it is way way more expensive on the populace as a whole. if you look at the nuance not graphs designed with an agenda. plus i was refering to the COST of the system in totla not the individual's cost. aka the total money entering healthcare. this demonstrates the waste and inefficiency of a goverment funded social medicine system.

as to your other point it is popular because it is free so poor ppl all love it. allot of ppl with money, even middle class, can get their own private care still so they are largely uneffected by the negatives besides cost. then you have your left wing political types who make up half the population whom just think it's awesome they are "helping the poor" like most leer jet liberal types. of course those types do this in order to go about their excessive lives and not feel like pieces of shit. i just laid out like the majority of the population and why they would like it, but hopefully you can see how it doesn't speak to the quality of the system whatsoever. so that is how it can be popular and still be a bad idea.
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have you ever even fucking been to Canada? i don't think you have. have you stopped for gas in a small town? they were all nice to me, no one was snarky...no one talked shit to me about America at all...even though it was pretty obvious i wasn't a Canadian.
i've been to Canada several times, and not one time did it have anything to do with cannabis (a point you made to discount my opinion earlier)...none of my interactions with Canadians has anything to do with cannabis....besides many trips to Canada, i have daily interactions with three of them....i play an mmo game, and they're in my guild. i voice chat with them daily, and have become kind of close with two of them. they're both professional people, well educated, one is a manager at a furniture factory, on works in the labs at a hospital. they don't say anything to support a single fucking thing you say, and neither have any Canadians i have ever had anything to do with.
i'm sure there are some Canadians who feels like you say they do.....i'm also sure that it's a very small percentage, not the overwhelming majority you seem to think....with no apparent reason
 
outliergenetix

outliergenetix

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
have you ever even fucking been to Canada? i don't think you have. have you stopped for gas in a small town? they were all nice to me, no one was snarky...no one talked shit to me about America at all...even though it was pretty obvious i wasn't a Canadian.
i've been to Canada several times, and not one time did it have anything to do with cannabis (a point you made to discount my opinion earlier)...none of my interactions with Canadians has anything to do with cannabis....besides many trips to Canada, i have daily interactions with three of them....i play an mmo game, and they're in my guild. i voice chat with them daily, and have become kind of close with two of them. they're both professional people, well educated, one is a manager at a furniture factory, on works in the labs at a hospital. they don't say anything to support a single fucking thing you say, and neither have any Canadians i have ever had anything to do with.
i'm sure there are some Canadians who feels like you say they do.....i'm also sure that it's a very small percentage, not the overwhelming majority you seem to think....with no apparent reason
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when did i say they were not nice? heck imo they are almost overly nice. t's so funny howwhenever i interject an opinion on RiU that isn't about cannabis all the morons get triggered and don't even read or absorb what i am saying before replying. whatever man, go yell and argue with someone else.
also i love your empiricle evidence in the form of "im sure" lol, at least i laid out rational reasons whether they are the right ones or not. all you have to offer is name calling and "i'm sure"
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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outliergenetix said:
when did i say thery were not nice? it's so funny howwhenever i interject an opinion on RiU that isn't about cannabis all the morons get triggered and don't even read or absorb what i am saying before replying. whatever man, go yell and argue with someone else
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We all see things differently ... like for instance you might just be the only moron here
 
outliergenetix

outliergenetix

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Budley Doright said:
Well I have to say I’ve never heard anything remotely close to calling your laws barbaric. We typically leave that for China, Saudi Arabia, etc. I’m not sure where your getting your info but it seems a bit skewed. The only disrespect I’ve ever heard re the States is directed at your Twitter in Chief, pretty sure that sentiment is held now by a majority, well I sure hope it is. As for the French versus English thing, the tension between the two was largely brought to the forefront by the desire to separate from Canada, that tends to create a bit of tension. It has pretty much been a mute point since the referendum. The newer generation of Canadians do not possess the same feelings as the older generation (yes that includes me in the latter group). When disparaging another country it is normal to use comparisons of the country you reside in, hense the rebuttal with the US as the model. If not to compare, what is your point. Do we have issues as well? Yes we do, Ontario just elected Trump lite (actually a tad less smart than Trump, now that’s sad), who has stolen the playbook from your boy.
Edit: I do like the French in that they invented poutine and great strippers
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okay well barbaric was admittedly an over statement for effect. they think we are way too far on the right....is that better?
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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outliergenetix said:
when did i say they were not nice? heck imo they are almost overly nice. t's so funny howwhenever i interject an opinion on RiU that isn't about cannabis all the morons get triggered and don't even read or absorb what i am saying before replying. whatever man, go yell and argue with someone else.
also i love your empiricle evidence in the form of "im sure" lol, at least i laid out rational reasons whether they are the right ones or not. all you have to offer is name calling and "i'm sure"
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Rational reasons ....... hmmmm
 
outliergenetix

outliergenetix

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Herb & Suds said:
We all see things differently ... like for instance you might just be the only moron here
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my name says i am an outlier so maybe you are correct or maybe like all things that is subjective. or just maybe, like usual, the majority is incorrect, because the majority in never the best and brightest now is it? so i will stick with being an outlier
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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outliergenetix said:
okay well barbaric was admittedly an over statement for effect. they think we are way too far on the right....is that better?
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No it’s not, you’ve admitted to being wrong and spinning for effect but then use “rational. Again your not very smart. Also please try and spell Canadian right, it shows lacking.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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outliergenetix said:
you don't need to seeem as rational but i don't see you sharing any rebuttals with substance nor is anyone else so i will assume i am correct and you ppl have nothing else to offer in terms of debate
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Your ideal of substance is lacking substance. You have been presented with actual numbers and factual information yet you offer heresay and “them/they”, try harder lol
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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outliergenetix said:
my name says i am an outlier so maybe you are correct or maybe like all things that is subjective. or just maybe, like usual, the majority is incorrect, because the majority in never the best and brightest now is it? so i will stick with being an outlier
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Your ilk caused normal people to cull the herd
 
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