Diary and other stuff.

A few updated pics...
Swiss skunk

Blueberry twist #2

Og kush and king gelato #2
(i defoliated the tallest one tonight)

Limon blanco (nearest) and king gelato

The gelato isn't doing great tbh, I think I've caught it in time but it could go either way?

I've been recycling that same coco for 2 years now.

It just keeps working so I'm not going get in it's way lol

They're loving the rise in temps I'm sure I could see a difference in then today?

Blueberry and Swiss skunk have stopped stretching at 19/20" the gelato is a little taller but I've addressed that, I'm anticipating the autopot plants to stretch a bit this week and the limon blanco.

I've taken clones today
2x blueberry #2
2x Swiss skunk
2x king gelato #2
I'll clone the others later into flower they're just over a week into 12-12.

Edit..I've got blueberry twist and gelato #2 in one tray and Swiss skunk and limon blanco in another tray.
Blueberry and gelato run off is 1.5ec from a input of 1.9ec
the Swiss skunk and limon blanco run off is 1.2ec from 1.9ec input.

Take it easy folk's

To recap

9th November... soaked seeds with h202 2ml/ltr + nitrozyme 1ml/ltr

19th November... Seedlings flipped In root pouches.

15th December...
Re potted seed plants into 5ltr airpots.

17th December..
Re potted kush and gelato into the autopot pots.

24th December...
I put the autopot kush, gelat and limon blanco Into the flower room.

25th December...
Added a 2nd 250w bar light, 2x 250w across 3x5 area, the actual canop size is only 2.5x3ft it's still filling out.

There's not really much to do atm
I'm still not happy with the gelato it's not 100%.

It might look OK in the pic but i can see there's something not right.

I got my little tent, jeezo it's 2 feet tall lol (damned)
Put a light and a pot inside and you loss 6" right off!

My other clone tent is 3ft tall so I'll shuffle things around for the best fit when the time comes.

Take it easy folk's

It's just dawned on me that gelato has been in 12-12 for 6 going on 7 weeks, it's only just started to pre flower pistils

I'll see how it turns out, then I'll see how long it takes to pre flower if I run it again?

Always expect the unexpected

It's been a few days lol
Updated pic

The autopot (center) ate doing just fine.

And so is dtw

Tbf the dtw was re potted before the autopot plants so it's not a comparison.

Tip nip


It's the back right in the pic above king gelat, it looks like its a yeilder, it's got the build/look of a heavy yeilder.

Take it easy folk's

Thursday 28th Nov...I soaked 20/25 seeds in a solution of nitrozyme and peroxide then planted them on Friday and put them under t5s.

I had mixed seeds in the post after the containers got crushed however the seeds look fine there's lvtk and blue dream I planted 3x yesterday sorta a surprise

Blue dream or/and lvtk
Sour tangie
Blockbuster
Slh x rainbow belts
Meltdown
Collins cough
Blueberry muffin.

Seedlings grow quickly, I've had another 2 break ground and 3 left to sprout.

I'm going to give them a few more days under 24hrs then flip them to 12-12, I'm going to veg/sex them in those 0.25ltr pouches help keep them short, after sexing ± I'll pot them up for flowering.

Another lvtk sprouted today that's two left to sprout, both are blueberry muffin so I'm not really optimistic about them sprouting but they're not in the wway so I'll let them be for now.
(there's 2 added pouches heating for clones)

Sour tangie has variegated leafs on them.

I'm not sure what to make of it?

It's looking like I've finally got rid of the fungus gnats it's been 7/8 days since I last squished one

I'm not absolutely 100% certain they're all gone I'll need a few more weeks before I can make that call however it's a result if that's them I didn't use poison or spend anymore money just a bag.

They're growing well they don't seem to mind the bags it's clear they're getting enough oxygen, that aside gnats can't get in/out spreading eggs around they're confined and easily squished.

That was 2 months before they stopped hatching completely..
Assuming they have stopped completely?

Star Dog said:

Another lvtk sprouted today that's two left to sprout, both are blueberry muffin so I'm not really optimistic about them sprouting but they're not in the wway so I'll let them be for now.
(there's 2 added pouches heating for clones)
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Sour tangie has variegated leafs on them.
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I'm not sure what to make of it?

It's looking like I've finally got rid of the fungus gnats it's been 7/8 days since I last squished one
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I'm not absolutely 100% certain they're all gone I'll need a few more weeks before I can make that call however it's a result if that's them I didn't use poison or spend anymore money just a bag.
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They're growing well they don't seem to mind the bags it's clear they're getting enough oxygen, that aside gnats can't get in/out spreading eggs around they're confined and easily squished.
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That was 2 months before they stopped hatching completely..
Assuming they have stopped completely?

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Hopefully fingers crossed bud should be surely by now and good call on holding of on the pesticides as well that should be a last resort thing too many growers are spray happy imo with no forward thinking to risk

conor c said:

Hopefully fingers crossed bud should be surely by now and good call on holding of on the pesticides as well that should be a last resort thing too many growers are spray happy imo with no forward thinking to risk

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Aye mate absolutely pesticides are last resort, I'll use them if i need to but I'd exhaust other options where possible.

Star Dog said:

Aye mate absolutely pesticides are last resort, I'll use them if i need to but I'd exhaust other options where possible.

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Good to see you up again! For gnats you can try my mums trick: mix some sugar, water, soap and vinegar in a wide container and place it where the bugs are. Keeps em down and at least a bit busy.

Rocket Soul said:

Good to see you up again! For gnats you can try my mums trick: mix some sugar, water, soap and vinegar in a wide container and place it where the bugs are. Keeps em down and at least a bit busy.

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Thanks bud I appreciate that, they're good traps and they're simple to make, I thought it was fruit flies I was seeing so I tried fruit juice to start with and that worked quite well

I'm looking at other prevention measures atm this only £16

I'm going to hang something like this in the room I'm waiting for a reply atm regarding suitability for fungus gnats...some dude in the feedback commented about it killing gnats so maybe?

I considered one of these but for a couple of quid more a can get the partable 6w version which imo is a better option.

I'm sure it'll have its uses though its a zapper and a light for £6/7

Star Dog said:

Thanks bud I appreciate that, they're good traps and they're simple to make, I thought it was fruit flies I was seeing so I tried fruit juice to start with and that worked quite well

I'm looking at other prevention measures atm this only £16
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I'm going to hang something like this in the room I'm waiting for a reply atm regarding suitability for fungus gnats...some dude in the feedback commented about it killing gnats so maybe?

I considered one of these but for a couple of quid more a can get the partable 6w version which imo is a better option.
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I'm sure it'll have its uses though its a zapper and a light for £6/7

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I think the uv part is mainly for attracting, you need the one with a zapper. Good luck, the fight with the gnats is never over.

I was also looking at this type of zapper.

I've used a similar one only better quality with a actual uv bulb and it worked well.

I wonder if they're actual bulb or just led diodes in a plastic sleeve, led would be preferable?

I honestly dont know.

Star Dog said:

I was also looking at this type of zapper.
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I've used a similar one only better quality with a actual uv bulb and it worked well.

I wonder if they're actual bulb or just led diodes in a plastic sleeve, led would be preferable?

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Saturday 7th December...
It's a week today since planting my pre soaked seeds I've 2 a bit slow and 2 that didn't show so all in I'm happy with 19 for sure, it's time to flip them.

The sour tangie still look a little off x5 of them?

I expect they'll be OK but let's see what happens?

Have you found heat matts are too hot with small amounts of coco/ soil?
Yes me too by a fair margin at that.

I've plugged my heat matt into a temperature controller and put the matt under the tray and the probe under a pouch.

I've flipped them tonight my heat matt is the only source of heat with the lights off so I need to arrange a heater.

Have a nice weekend folk's

The seedlings are coming along i got 21 from 22 seeds so that's ok, I've put the two late sprouts into the clone tent for now @24hrs to get them growing.
Dec 9th...

Dec 11th...

I had to raise them up off the floor and put in a tube heater to raise the temps.

I put the tray on a box it's only a temporary measure I'm planning on putting them under HID in the next few weeks.

Friday 13th Dec...
That's 2wks tomorrow since planting my seeds they're doing well overall.


I set up my run off catcher today, I pour some excess nutrient into the tray the coco draws in x amount then the remaining nutrient gets siphoned or wicked into the jug.

It even works from bone dry so doesn't require any priming to initiate it and it works on any size.

Below) Lvtk I'm really looking forward to trying those I'm hoping for pledgey or wd40 like terps.
They looked a little suspect but they're going be fine I can see a notable difference in the smaller one today, the other slowish one looks like it's made only a little progress but it's moving in the direction?

Have a nice weekend folk's

I've removed some leaf from 1 of 3 slh seedlings, it seems reasonable that if I want short/small then working from seedling might be a good start?


Before I cut it, you can see it's slightly taller than its sisters (left)

The intended use is seedling so testing on clones isn't feasible.

I don't like that I'm not really in charge of how big they're going to grow, if I was then small plants would be easy but they're not, even 12-12 from seed make big plants, that's great but it's difficult to make them smaller?

I'm already vegging up to sexing +1wk with a handful of coco and 12-12 to limit end size/height.

And the plants are still nice, for me I mean.



So yeah who'd believe small plants are difficult to grow.

Let's see what happens?

Star Dog said:

I've removed some leaf from 1 of 3 slh seedlings, it seems reasonable that if I want short/small then working from seedling might be a good start?
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Before I cut it, you can see it's slightly taller than its sisters (left)
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The intended use is seedling so testing on clones isn't feasible.

I don't like that I'm not really in charge of how big they're going to grow, if I was then small plants would be easy but they're not, even 12-12 from seed make big plants, that's great but it's difficult to make them smaller?

I'm already vegging up to sexing +1wk with a handful of coco and 12-12 to limit end size/height.
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And the plants are still nice, for me I mean.
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So yeah who'd believe small plants are difficult to grow.

Let's see what happens?

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When the leaves of the plants touch they tend to stretch, if you want more horizontal type growth try to keep them apart a bit and not touching eachother and relatively high light levels (obviously dont try them ).
Seems like touching eachother starts the race yowards the light cause they sense theyre part of a competitive cannopy.