Dj Shorts Original Blueberry vs True Blueberry

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cdhope1

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I have a fiend that has one of the blueberry . I don't know wich one but he thinks it crossed with somthing else. Well it has the best taste ever and would give it a 5 on the stone. The tast is somthing I wish my cigs tasted like but I would be dead or broke. The fucked up thing about it is he will not sell any clones. :( I really wish I could find out what it is I think its dj short blue x grand daddy . Als where can I go to get seeds of this cross. I live in Cali.
 
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HippieFarmer420

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I realize this thread is several years old and perhaps there is more info out there that I haven't got to in google search, but I am looking to see if the Original Blueberry is still floating around and if so who is the breeder or breeders who are working with this cut these days..

Where can I find the most replica copy of the old Original Blueberry, this seems to be evading me.
 
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Spindle818

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Unfortunately you won’t find the original blueberry outright in DJ’s gear. He seems to have made a mistake in between f3 and f5 that took a lot of the good out of his line. The closest things that I have found are from dynasty genetics. Although they are hybridized he has worked them towards the blueberry very well. His blue magoo, blue goose, and huckleberry are very close to the original blue. Humboldt seed co has blueberry muffins which tastes like blueberry muffins, but it isn’t very close to what the original Oregon blueberry was.
 
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HippieFarmer420

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Yeah looking for that original is like finding the Lockness Monster it seems like..

I'll take a look at dynasty and see what they offer to Canada.

Buddy "my best friend who also seed hunts with me" and I are heavy on the search for the best blueberry we can find
 
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HippieFarmer420

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So Im looking into Dynasty, I was told JOTI also had a nice blueberry but I also heard mixed reviews on this one..

I have tried a few others in the past but I have yet to find that actual bb profile yet..

I'll keep looking and hopefully we will find her
 
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harris hawk

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smellzlikeskunkyum said:
wow i hope people know that most of DJ shorts stuff is all from the same genetics.... Flo, Bluberry, True blueberry, blue moonshine, old time moonshine, cocoa kush, grape krush, etc. they are all the same bluberry/flo line just some are F5(blueberry) , some F6(true blueberry) some are the same genetics but different phenotypes that were re-grown into different strains. grape krush, blue moonshine, cocoa kush are all blueberry plant phenotypes of all different generations. almost all of his seeds are like that. i know someone who grows dj shorts blueberry(from a 15 year old clone) and he is trying some cocoa kush this time too. the cocoa kush looks identical to the blueberry but it has slightly bigger leaves and a little tighter node spacing. he said the final product that he tried was a lot like blueberry, but with a chocolate aftertaste. his dj short blueberry looks sativa, but the buds knock u right down for the count. i heard true blueberry is more of a mixed high..
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They ALL come from the Blueberry/FLO line of genetics, they are all just re-worked to be different phenotypes. and he did a VERY good job btw. his flo and bluebery are what Dutch Passion chose to use in their line of genetics. i have had FLO too, i loved it. it tasted like roses, and had a hashy aftertaste. very potent sativa/indica hybrid smoke, with hues of purple.
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Wish DJ would make female seeds !!
 
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harris hawk

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ClosetSafe said:
"True Blueberry" is the sixth or seventh filial generation of "Blueberry" according to the seedfinder.

If I were to break Dj shorts genetics down, I would divide it between his Purple Thai Afghani and his Highland Thai Afghani. His (Purple Thai Afghani is Oaxacan Gold x Chocolate Thai x Afghani) and commonly referred to as the "Floral line" and then there is this (Highland Thai x Afghani) Male that come around once in a while and has it's way with the women of the floral line.

If the F2 of the "Floral Line" is "Floral Line" then the F3 is Temple Flo and the F4 is where the "Blue Berry Sativa" is located and commercially "F-13" is the F5 of the Purple-Thai-Afghani and "Flo" is also a commercially available F6 of the floral Line.

F2=Floral Line
F3=Temple Flo
F4=BlueBerry Sativa
F5=F13
F6=Flo

Blueberry is the result of the F1 Highland Thai Afghani male f**king and the F3 Temple Flo (Purple Thai Afghani).
True Blueberry is the result of those babies having babies and those babies having babies for 4-5 more generations....

F1= Blueberry Line
F2= Blueberry
F3=(What you get from Dutch Passion?)
F4= not available commercially
F5= not available commercially
F6/7= True Blueberry

http://en.seedfinder.eu/strain-info/True_Blueberry/DJ_Short/

Blueberry »»» Blueberry Line F2
Blueberry Line F1 »»» Temple Flo x HTAF F1
Temple Flo F3 »»» Floral Line »»» Purple Thai x Afghani
Purple Thai »»» H.O.G. x Chocolate Thai
H.O.G. »»» Mexico »»» Sativa
Chocolate Thai »»» Thailand »»» Sativa
Afghani »»» Afghanistan Probably Indica »»» Indica
HTAF F1 »»» Thailand x Afghani F1
Thailand »»» Sativa
Afghani (specified above)

True Blueberry »»» Blueberry F6,7
Blueberry (specified above)
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Great information !!! need to copy this
 
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HippieFarmer420 said:
I realize this thread is several years old and perhaps there is more info out there that I haven't got to in google search, but I am looking to see if the Original Blueberry is still floating around and if so who is the breeder or breeders who are working with this cut these days..

Where can I find the most replica copy of the old Original Blueberry, this seems to be evading me.
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Dj has a new release called 90's blues that they say has 2 main pheno's. 1 that's a blueberry muffin and another that's blueberry and grape.
http://instagr.am/p/Ck1xiQeue8c/
 
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VladTheImpaler

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Spindle said it best, you will not find the old blueberry in any of DJ's work.

They can call it "90's Blueberry Sativa I Swear On My Mother's Grave" , and it will not change the fact that the best of the blue lines came out of Canada and Europe in the late 90's when DJ gave his stock to Breeder Steve and Dutch Passion to refine.
 
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GWilliamsCannabis

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big bud man 413 said:
I heard DJ lost his original genetics a while ago.
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He did. He has recreated the Blueberry several times since this thread, searching for what he once had.

I'm hearing the F5 available now (as his original blueberry) tastes more chocolate than blueberry - but never tried it myself.

The F4 although his closest attempt to the original, still is nothing close to the original. However if you go in with expectations of it tasting AS GOOD or AS UNIQUE as flavor strains of today- it definitely accomplishes that feat, as it does taste of blueberry the entire time you smoke it....just not as intense in flavor and no blueberry muffin pheno which was the most popular pheno.

A reason that he never got that original back and ppl that attempt it fail to bring out the intense flavors of the original is because everybody breeds out the mutant genetics....Blueberry is an example where the mutants end up being better than the non-mutants.....the mutant genes were key in providing the intense terpene profile it once had and everybody who kept it ended up working it so they could make seeds and bred out the mutants, not realizing that's what made the strain so special.

Now, Blueberry offerings of today are simply just another strain....that 90s blueberry tasted so intensely of blueberry that there were no undertones or other flavors...best strain I've ever smoked, bar none.
 
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HippieFarmer420

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GWilliamsCannabis said:
He did. He has recreated the Blueberry several times since this thread, searching for what he once had.

I'm hearing the F5 available now (as his original blueberry) tastes more chocolate than blueberry - but never tried it myself.

The F4 although his closest attempt to the original, still is nothing close to the original. However if you go in with expectations of it tasting AS GOOD or AS UNIQUE as flavor strains of today- it definitely accomplishes that feat, as it does taste of blueberry the entire time you smoke it....just not as intense in flavor and no blueberry muffin pheno which was the most popular pheno.

A reason that he never got that original back and ppl that attempt it fail to bring out the intense flavors of the original is because everybody breeds out the mutant genetics....Blueberry is an example where the mutants end up being better than the non-mutants.....the mutant genes were key in providing the intense terpene profile it once had and everybody who kept it ended up working it so they could make seeds and bred out the mutants, not realizing that's what made the strain so special.

Now, Blueberry offerings of today are simply just another strain....that 90s blueberry tasted so intensely of blueberry that there were no undertones or other flavors...best strain I've ever smoked, bar none.
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And this is why I was curious where it went..

I know the Dutch Passion if I bought seeds today would not be what they use to be..

I also knew about DJ losing parent lines and such but I was hoping that there was still a chance to find that bb muffin again, I've never found it in seed form, tho I've grown "bb" a few times trying to find it.

I smoked the BB muffin pheno back in the late 90s, I knew it was unique back then but I didn't know I'd never see it again after that.
 
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Spindle818

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HippieFarmer420 said:
And this is why I was curious where it went..

I know the Dutch Passion if I bought seeds today would not be what they use to be..

I also knew about DJ losing parent lines and such but I was hoping that there was still a chance to find that bb muffin again, I've never found it in seed form, tho I've grown "bb" a few times trying to find it.

I smoked the BB muffin pheno back in the late 90s, I knew it was unique back then but I didn't know I'd never see it again after that.
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It’s not that they were lost, he just made mistakes and selections that went away from the original which was very blueberry jam not so much muffin
 
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seedcollector82

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There is an older fellow, Lem hoko, who worked the old blueberry into seed form. I have 3 packs from his old company.
His blueberry is the finicky sativa from DJ Shorts first release if I'm not mistaken.
 
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VladTheImpaler

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Spindle818 said:
It’s not that they were lost, he just made mistakes and selections that went away from the original which was very blueberry jam not so much muffin
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Correct.

The Blueberry muffin smell also did NOT come from the mutated growth trait. This was due to severe inbreeding towards an effect based selection. Dj selected for effects, not aromas. He didn't care if the plants were mutants. He wanted to lock in what he was selecting for.

Sagarmatha, Dutch Passion, & Breeder Steve acquired the original seed stock from Dj in the late 90's. They grew out 1000's, selected away from mutations, and bred towards the blue flavor. The mutations were so severe, they initially thought he induced them chemically.

The Canadian rooms are where F13, Sweet Tooth, Bluebonic, and the BC Blueberry Indica were spawned from.

The European rooms are where the Blueberry Moonshine, Blue Velvet, Bubble-berry, Colorado Flo, and others clones - like Verdant Green's Blueberry Sativa.

Lemonhoko has a decent, but muddied Blueberry Bx. I say it is lacking, because I don't want White Indica or Fire Alien OG hiding in a Blueberry backcross as the backbone. They don't compliment the original clone only and add a mess of recessive genetics that will show themselves in outcrosses.
 
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seedcollector82

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VladTheImpaler said:
Lemonhoko has a decent, but muddied Blueberry Bx. I say it is lacking, because I don't want White Indica or Fire Alien OG hiding in a Blueberry backcross as the backbone. They don't compliment the original clone only and add a mess of recessive genetics that will show themselves in outcrosses.
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Fair call. I haven't seen many grows about his lines, but had heard the one or two who ran it say something similar.
I would think if one took several packs and was very careful about selection, or using a different blueberry style dad (i.e. Bodhi blueberry hash plant)
one could make a very blue line
 
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