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FauxRoux said:
So you're not a racist...just a coward then

I lived and served in the middle east as an american jew. I know more about needing to be "safe" in this context then you ever will. What's your experience based on? other then passages in text of course?
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Why should any American have to deal with those statistics? Western civilization and basic needs being met are not enough. I believe that the demographic mentioned was well over a quarter of the population being discussed. If a quarter of M&Ms were poisoned, those numbers would be too high to allow them on grocery shelves. Production would be temporarily halted to find the problem and fix it, and if a solution couldn't be found the product would exit the market.
 
Lord Kanti said:
You mean like turning the other cheek?
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Right because that's happened so often throughout history. "the Father is greater than me," as a Christian you still read the Old Testament and a lot of things still stem from it. I can't believe you think otherwise and call yourself a Christian unless you're Mormon or something.
 
Lord Kanti said:
Why should any American have to deal with those statistics? Western civilization and basic needs being met are not enough. I believe that the demographic mentioned was well over a quarter of the population being discussed. If a quarter of M&Ms were poisoned, those numbers would be too high to allow them on grocery shelves. Production would be temporarily halted to find the problem and fix it, and if a solution couldn't be found the product would exit the market.
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"the product would exit the market" huh? Can't imagine what that analogy means.

Way to " turn the other cheek"

And given your brilliant circular logic im sure you making the analogy was in no way you stating an opinion as to what that anology infers....i must be assuming again
 
FauxRoux said:
As i said before...christianity came about around 300A.D. thats when the first gospels started circulation. Until then the followers of christ were considered a Judaic Cult

The old testiment (adam and eve) is from jewish tradition. While some is included in christianity they rely on the new testiment having to do with jesus specifically

Islam, christianity and monotheistic traditions all stwm from Judaism. Which stems from monolateralism ...which stem from totem worship...its quite fascinating actually
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Thank you for explaining. But thus honestly pushes me away from religon even more.
 
superloud said:
Thank you for explaining. But thus honestly pushes me away from religon even more.
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Always trust your gut and intuition on religion imo. Nothing is true just becuase someone says it is, think objectively. Im not religious at all personally. I enjoy learning about them though, facinating stuff. As they say, history is key to understnding our future
 
FauxRoux said:
"the product would exit the market" huh? Can't imagine what that analogy means.

Way to " turn the other cheek"

And given your brilliant circular logic im sure you making the analogy was in no way you stating an opinion as to what that anology infers....i must be assuming again
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You're obviously assuming. I'm surprised that you caught yourself.
 
Lord Kanti said:
Or read. There's nothing wrong with an opinion based in fact rather than emotion.
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I agree. But for that to work one must know how empirical evidence works in relation to verifying if something is a fact in the first place.

As opposed to simply citing something thats been stated and using it to validate a veiwpoint, regardless of if it proves said veiwpoint.
 
Flaming Pie said:
We are to live life guided by it but are not to judge each other by the punishments that the Jews enacted.

Better?
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Only in a perfect world. Seriously though go look up all the sources of Christian law. I can guarantee you there is only one mention of it in the Bible which is Paul and even then it's vague. So the Church created their own based on the bible.
 
Flaming Pie said:
We are to live life guided by it but are not to judge each other by the punishments that the Jews enacted.

Better?
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So you want to change the goalposts from the actual writing and beliefs to what some people did in some place in the far distant past?
FauxRoux said:
I agree. But for that to work one must know how empirical evidence works in relation to verifying if something is a fact in the first place.

As opposed to simply citing something thats been stated and using it to validate a veiwpoint, regardless of if it proves said veiwpoint.
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How long have you been posting here? This is the politics section!!
 
pnwmystery said:
333AD-2015 has tons of examples of Christian based law with violence. Some famous examples include the Salem Witch Trials and the Inquisitions.
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Could we have some examples... I know this is stretching it a bit but... with LIVING people? I really dont want to have to be responsible for the Crusades, the Inquision and the Salem Witch Trials along with Slavery and such...

Here is the deal. There are relatively large groups of muslim's that have taken the Koran literally and have declared war on the western world and they are currently killing hundreds if not thousands of people all over the place.

Trying to link that to what people did supposedly in the name of Christianity hundreds if not thousands of years ago detracts from the current discussion and makes you look really silly...
 
NLXSK1 said:
Could we have some examples... I know this is stretching it a bit but... with LIVING people? I really dont want to have to be responsible for the Crusades, the Inquision and the Salem Witch Trials along with Slavery and such...

Here is the deal. There are relatively large groups of muslim's that have taken the Koran literally and have declared war on the western world and they are currently killing hundreds if not thousands of people all over the place.

Trying to link that to what people did supposedly in the name of Christianity hundreds if not thousands of years ago detracts from the current discussion and makes you look really silly...
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Sure Lords Resistance Army, members of the US military that think it's not their duty to the US to fight in the Middle East but their duty to Christ to kill Muslims. The Russian Orthodox Church saying that Russia's involvement in Syria is a "Crusade," and people being put to death in Latin America or Africa for being gay because it's a sin. Serbs committing genocide on Bosnians because they were Muslim, and over a battle that happened in the Middle Ages between he Kingdom of Serbia and Ottoman Empire. Anders Breivik, the KKK.

Actually it really doesn't. Maybe in your opinion, but no it's a completely valid argument seeing as how Islam came about 600 years after Christianity and if we were to go back 600 years to even the playing field we'd still be calling the world flat and insisting that the sun revolved around Earth because it was Gods will. We'd also be expelling all the Jews from Spain, and the Inquisition and another Crusade would be going full tilt.
 
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