First Grow - 2 x 1000w

Devildog93 said:

Don't stress my friend. I was just stating what it looks like to me. This is what I hate about giving advice.

I should add........."use at own risk" to every suggestion post.

I'm more of the "let's see how I can eff up my plants" grower, at least since I threw on my dusty "gardening gloves" that have been retired for a half decade or so.

I will see what I can find. You have a couple symptoms, but sometimes it can be something as simple as over or underwatering.
(which look similar, by the way. Early underwatering, looks much like over watering.....droopy leaves, and both can lead to problematic symptoms)

Re-reading your journal.

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No worries man. So far I'm the same kind of grower as you haha I appreciate all advice, even if it's not accurate. I'm the one that has to make the final decision so if something doesn't click with me, I'll definitely read more about it before actually applying it to my garden. I felt safe enough watering tonight even though the lemon skunk looks droopy. That to me is all heat stress from earlier said issue with duct work. I just hope it doesn't die.

Your other symptoms, like the leaves with the crisp edges, are most likely deficiencies. I would guess Phosphorous based on this thread
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688


Now, they (deficiencies) can be caused by nutrient lockout, over/under watering, over/under feeding, pH issues, mucky soil/medium

And that goes hand in hand with what mugan says about wonky roots. Your roots get funked up, for what ever reason, it often reflects on the leaves and structure. Healthy roots, healthy tops.

Perhaps what mugan says, about H2O2 and a flush would help. And as you stated that you don't keep them saturated, then I would think its not overwatering, so it shouldn't make things worse.

I like to give my plants a good soaking occasionally, with just pH'd water. Seems to help sometimes.

And you could be right about the heat stress. Just dial your room back to what it was before as far as temps, and that will take some of that stress off at least.

The thing is, I just flushed them last week, then followed with nutes, now again with water, molasses and sea green. My soils ph is between 6.6 and 6.9. The water I use is a solid 7.0. The first two nute solutions were followed by the flush last week. Since I just watered them tonight I'll have to wait a few days before I add anything else, but the h202 sounds like what I'll try next. Then follow that with a nice nute solution and see what happens. Thanks guys.

Just remember, not everything happens overnight. And not all leaves recover. The only deficiency that I have seen "fixed" leaves is nitrogen as it is a highly mobile nutrient. And NOT necrotic N deficient leaves....those are lost too......I mean a leaf starts to yellow ONLY because of N deficiency, and it hasn't curled/shrivelled up, it can sometimes regain it's green for a while.

Most other deficiencies leave irreparable damage. Fixing the deficiency may stop the progression of necrosis, or chlorosis, or strange growth......but usually, unless its nitrogen deficient, you generally don't see leaves "rebuild" or fix. Most, I look at new growth for indicators.

Your soil pH may be a little high as well, which can lock out certain nutes, like Phosphorous. With soil, I like to run my solution at 6.5. Seems to work best around that range. In my experience.

Rockwool I would run around 6.0-6.1 pH'd water/food.

I keep my current coco grow at about 6.2-6.3 pH'd solution. (still working on figuring out the coco though, as this is my first grow with it) I never actually pH test my medium. I just found those ranges worked great for me, with the water I've had access to, and the nutes I was using. Tap water, and General Hydroponics feed.

Dubbs here is a chart to help you if you dont have it yet , you will have to blow it up to see it , My Picasa program blows it up ,Happy farming Cajun,Let me know if this works for you I have other charts you might likeView attachment 1685711

Check out the chart alotaball posted over on...I think steez. Journal. It talks about which nutes get lock out @ each pH level.

Lanternslight said:

Check out the chart alotaball posted over on...I think steez. Journal. It talks about which nutes get lock out @ each pH level.

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Pretty cool chart. I need to get a drop tester or something a bit more accurate to test my soils ph. This cheap POS is not going to cut it. From the looks of it my soils are all over the place. Some have calcium def and some manganese/boron def. (my guess)

Yea I wouldn't doubt it's in your soil to be honest either... out of all my plants my hindu kush is doing fucking shitty and I think it's cause I didn't mix enough perelite into the soil as I did for the others, so she isn't drying out quick enough. From this point on I'm probably going to start starving my plants more than running a schedule, if I think I should water I might just from now on wait another day and then water depending......heres some leaf changing on her, i cut most of it off though now.

don't rely on reading and gadgets, use your gut feelings. we've been cultivating plants for thousands of years, it's in your blood.

Get the feel of your plants weight when it is watered and when it is dry ,Your plant will let you know when it is thirsty.Cajun

Have you given your plants any Cal/Mag or Micro Nutes? Have you test your runoff pH? What was your exact last feeding? Inbox is cleared up, sorry bro! Busy day at work...

Peace

BKB

bekindbud said:

Have you given your plants any Cal/Mag or Micro Nutes? Have you test your runoff pH? What was your exact last feeding? Inbox is cleared up, sorry bro! Busy day at work...

Peace

BKB

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No problem man. I messaged you.

jassica said:

why ? your plants are dying.

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I'm not sure what's going on. My 4 lemon skunk plants are starting to wilt, unlike all the other plants. It's been two days and they are getting worse. All the new growth is deformed and wilting/curling badly, but the old growth hasn't changed much. Basically, I don't know wth I'm doing.

i still maintain thats a root problem, it sounds exactly like what happened to me. it could also be over feeding but am as newbi as you or more i think ><. just let the plant dry out completely then give it a real long flush so your sure all toxins are out, or you can bath it with a charcoal mix ( wood) or dol lime. i say that cuz all those will not effect it seriously enough butt they will help out your roots just in case. good luck bro

maybe hygrozyme and/or mycorrhizae it may be too late but that would strengthen your roots alternatively. you can always pull a 'Steezz' with your soil

After talking with a friend we came to the conclusion that I'm not feeding them enough nutrients. Each time they were fed nutes it was 1/4 strength or less (twice in almost 4 weeks). They have deficiencies because they're not being fed properly. I was advised to feed them 1/2 to 3/4 strength for their next feed. They've been getting too much water with very little in the nute department. I had the "less is more" statement stuck in my head and was afraid to feed them. Tonight the soil will most likely be a little moist so the feed will have to wait until tomorrow night. I may try a foliar feed tonight but nothing will go in the soil until tomorrow or later.

Update on my house situation... I have 30 days from tomorrow to move out. That's not going to be enough time to finish any harvest, but the plants may have a temporary home if and when I need it. *fingers crossed*

happy to see the problem has an answer. both problems actually haha good luck!

Thanks man! I'm still not out of the woods so no celebrating just yet lol. I did found a pretty kick ass house though, with a basement and central air (ahhhhhhhh i can feel it now) but we'll see what happens in the next few weeks.

Ps. It's hot as fuck outside today...

kewl hope them plants do better, i missed the moving part why you moving ?

I here that, Central heating and A/C FTW! Wishing I had my apartment still. I could fit probably two 4x4x6 tents in my closet :U. It was a sweet 1 bdrm. Have you scoped out where you would put your babies?

Lanternslight said:

maybe hygrozyme and/or mycorrhizae it may be too late but that would strengthen your roots alternatively. you can always pull a 'Steezz' with your soil

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I use Hygrozyme cause it rocks when its hot, that shit helps your roots alot especially when growing in Bubbles(Hydro)! I also use Aquashield too every feeding.

Peace

BKB