Gotta love the rare conservative with tenure

bearkat42

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if the court was leaning Republican it would not have passed. Leftist do need to lie to satisfy their points so your response is understandable and expected.
You do the math. I've even color coded the party identification so that it would be easier for you to count. I came up with 5-4 leaning republican. Please correct me If I'm wrong.
Harry A. Blackmun - republican
William J. Brennan - republican
Lewis F. Powell Jr. - democrat
Thurgood Marshall - democrat
Warren Burger - republican
William Orville Douglas - democrat
Potter Stewart - republican
William H. Rehnquist - republican
Byron White - democrat
 

bravedave

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You do the math. I've even color coded the party identification so that it would be easier for you to count. I came up with 5-4 leaning republican. Please correct me If I'm wrong.
Harry A. Blackmun - republican
William J. Brennan - republican
Lewis F. Powell Jr. - democrat
Thurgood Marshall - democrat
Warren Burger - republican
William Orville Douglas - democrat
Potter Stewart - republican
William H. Rehnquist - republican
Byron White - democrat
My statement has nothing to do with who appointed them or even what party they associated with. Not that difficult.
 

Fogdog

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In this post, you say a Republican leaning court would never have passed a finding that said anti abortion laws are unconstitutional.
So you go to lawyers for your science then? if the court was leaning Republican it would not have passed. Leftist do need to lie to satisfy their points so your response is understandable and expected.
In this post, BK shows the court consisted of a majority that were Republican
You do the math. I've even color coded the party identification so that it would be easier for you to count. I came up with 5-4 leaning republican. Please correct me If I'm wrong.
Harry A. Blackmun - republican
William J. Brennan - republican
Lewis F. Powell Jr. - democrat
Thurgood Marshall - democrat
Warren Burger - republican
William Orville Douglas - democrat
Potter Stewart - republican
William H. Rehnquist - republican
Byron White - democrat
In this post, you deny everything you said earlier
My statement has nothing to do with who appointed them or even what party they associated with. Not that difficult.
LOL, Dave you are in water that is too deep for you. Go back to the kiddy side of the pool
 

Padawanbater2

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Here's some science :)
Systems Biologist here. Did my Ph.D. discovering how cellular signals arange in space and it's implications on cancer. I currently run a researxh group on liver toxicity and signaling.

The first issue with your argument is that life does not 'begin' anywhere. It is a continuum at the cellular level. Cells make copies of new cells. In many organisms , sometimes they change the number of chromosomes they have - going to one genome set (haploid) to having two genome sets (diploid) in metazoans.

In animals this trick is used to increase genetic diversity in an organism by combining the genome sets of two distinct individuals. This is sexual reproduction. I assure you, everything in this process - from the parent egg and sperm cells , their combination and the development to an embryo consists of cells that are alive.

So the where does life begin question is a little meaningless. The start point is arbitrarily defined for convenience/convention. A bit like how time zones begin at Greenwich Mean time.

That out of the way, it is important to note that an individuals body will terminate its own cells by a variety of mechanisms. Cell death is an important aspect in maintaining a healthy human body. Cell death is what sculpts your fingers, prevents you from succumbing to infections, prevents your immune system from destroying your own body...the list is endless. In that light, after fertilization, the embryo is as much part of a woman's body as her own hair follicles or skin cells. Even as a fetus, it remains completely dependent on the mother and is actually rather like a parasite. If she has a right to cut her hair and scrub her skin, terminating an embryo is not conceptually different. It is not even literally that different since abortion involves mainly scrubbing of uterine epithelium (called the endometrium).

Finally, abortion is objectively speaking an act of causing cell death by a neural/mental impulse for protection (economic / psychological /physical) of the parent organism.

Many pregnancies are terminated automatically through hormonal and cellular signaling pathways if the mother's body is not ready or capable for it. Abortion is simply a neural route of achieving the same result in response. A brain response is as much part of an individual's biology as their hormonal response.

Thus from a scientific point of view the entire pro-life stance is meaningless.

My purposefully strictly objective answer should at least convince you that this is not a scientific debate. It is an ethical debate. As such, it is subjective and you are not going to convince anyone who doesn't want to be convinced.
 

Fogdog

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Yes. Can you tell Bearpussy why a fetus is not a zygote?
Who is Bearpussy? Is that your dog?

In any case, what you ask is impossible because....wait for it.....

a fetus is not a zygote.

Dammit Dave, this shit is easy but you can't get it right. I answered your question, how about you answering a question in return?

Can you give a scientific explanation to justify your opposition to abortion?
 
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bravedave

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In this post, you say a Republican leaning court would never have passed a finding that said anti abortion laws are unconstitutional.

In this post, BK shows the court consisted of a majority that were Republican

In this post, you deny everything you said earlier


LOL, Dave you are in water that is too deep for you. Go back to the kiddy side of the pool
Talk about trying too hard. So you really consider someone like Blackmum a Republican. Brennen? Not the point though. Were the majority of Republicans in Congress at the time in favor? No. If a court decision is made and the Republican party and close to 100% of elected Republican representatives and Senators are against it... the decision is not Republican leaning. If you want to hang your hat on Bearpussy's statement while attempting to mischaracterize mine, feel free. I would expect no less from fogfraud.
 

UncleBuck

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Talk about trying too hard. So you really consider someone like Blackmum a Republican. Brennen? Not the point though. Were the majority of Republicans in Congress at the time in favor? No. If a court decision is made and the Republican party and close to 100% of elected Republican representatives and Senators are against it... the decision is not Republican leaning. If you want to hang your hat on Bearpussy's statement while attempting to mischaracterize mine, feel free. I would expect no less from fogfraud.
hi, dave. that's dumb.
 

Fogdog

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Talk about trying too hard. So you really consider someone like Blackmum a Republican. Brennen? Not the point though. Were the majority of Republicans in Congress at the time in favor? No. If a court decision is made and the Republican party and close to 100% of elected Republican representatives and Senators are against it... the decision is not Republican leaning. If you want to hang your hat on Bearpussy's statement while attempting to mischaracterize mine, feel free. I would expect no less from fogfraud.
You don't surprise me...ever. Running away from your own words. By the way, a direct quote isn't a mischaracterization.

From Wikipedia: "The Court ruled 7–2 that a right to privacy under the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment extended to a woman's decision to have an abortion,"

Congress had nothing to do with legalizing abortion. The SCOTUS struck down state laws that outlawed abortion as unconstitutional. You are confused. Why are you even mentioning Congress?

Who is Bearpussy? Your dog?
 
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Fogdog

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Why do you ignore the science?
Dave, HEY! DAVE! Are you there? Can you give a scientific explanation to justify your opposition to abortion?

Oh when you do give that explanation, remember what I taught you earlier. A fetus is not the same as a zygote.
 
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