Grower's Choice ROI-E720 MAJOR FAIL!

Gond00s

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$1250usd to my door for 2
bout 28 bucks per square foot pretty damn nice. I'm pretty sure you're in a 5x9. still runs loops around the price of the 1000watter. I've thought about grabbing a few of the qb800s from Ali for a 4x4 Pheno hunt tent that I've been wanting to start up. might just grab a 5x5 and get a 650 now.
 

bk78

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bout 28 bucks per square foot pretty damn nice. I'm pretty sure you're in a 5x9. still runs loops around the price of the 1000watter. I've thought about grabbing a few of the qb800s from Ali for a 4x4 Pheno hunt tent that I've been wanting to start up. might just grab a 5x5 and get a 650 now.
My area is a 4x8. The room is 6x12, I like space to move.
 

coreywebster

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A higher umol/j has nothing to do with being a better light. All that means is it’s more efficient. A lights efficiency has nothing to do with spectrum and/or footprints PAR and how well it can actually grow weed! Maybe find an actual rating that means a light is better, which you clearly have not. That’s like saying a 4 cylinder engine is better then a v8 Hemi cause it’s more efficient! Just silliness!
Its been proven by many on here and leading scientists that quantity beats quality, meaning more photons beats a fancy spectrum, especially when that spectrums based on outdated irrelevant 20 year old data.

Like I said before, happy for you to prove this light is as good as you think it is, yet to see anyone do that.
Will happily watch your thread and keep any negative comments to my self over there.
Seem to have lost track of it so will catch up later.
 

NeverOutgunned

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lol did he delete your comment? I cant find it on the LGLD latest youtube video.

this war between you and them is turning out to be a real shit show lmao. You must defeat him and get your refund.

If youre on your last breath and in need of assistance. you know where to find me
He's been defeated. The truth is out. They have agreed to take back these e720 paperweights at no cost to me, but the damage is done and forgiveness is not a trait i have. The video even forced "Erik" at ledGrowLightDepot to stop falsely advertising the e720 with "boost" mode. iv'e even seen the video posted by another customer on the LGLD review section. I'm actually pretty amazed at how fast the word spread. Erik has yet to respond to any comments I made
 

RainDan

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Hello @NeverOutgunned,

I was checking RIU today and saw your thread. I’m sorry to hear about what happened. I can personally vouch for Erik to be an honest and upstanding guy to do business with.

We are in the midst of rolling out our bar style light which is very similar in design to the original Fluence Spydr. I’d be happy to discuss what we have and see if we can meet your timeframe. It’s a similar sized light with onboard dimmer, Samsung LM561C diodes and 725 watts at the wall, no funny business.

If I can be of assistance with any questions feel free to reach me direct at dan@timbergrowlights.com.

Have a good day.
Dan
 

newbplantgrower420

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He's been defeated. The truth is out. They have agreed to take back these e720 paperweights at no cost to me, but the damage is done and forgiveness is not a trait i have. The video even forced "Erik" at ledGrowLightDepot to stop falsely advertising the e720 with "boost" mode. iv'e even seen the video posted by another customer on the LGLD review section. I'm actually pretty amazed at how fast the word spread. Erik has yet to respond to any comments I made
when you get the actual 720s can you do a par test and give us an update on how it is? im thinking of buying two in 2-3 months to test out on one of my 4x8 flood trays. i need more firepower from LED stripbars.

I might even look into the timber strip light if its out by then.
 

NeverOutgunned

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Hello @NeverOutgunned,

I was checking RIU today and saw your thread. I’m sorry to hear about what happened. I can personally vouch for Erik to be an honest and upstanding guy to do business with.

We are in the midst of rolling out our bar style light which is very similar in design to the original Fluence Spydr. I’d be happy to discuss what we have and see if we can meet your timeframe. It’s a similar sized light with onboard dimmer, Samsung LM561C diodes and 725 watts at the wall, no funny business.

If I can be of assistance with any questions feel free to reach me direct at dan@timbergrowlights.com.

Have a good day.
Dan
That's what i wanted to believe, i even defended him at one point but the bottom line is he should have had my back with GC.
 

NeverOutgunned

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Well, it's seems I hurt Erik's feelings with a recent comment I made on rollitup. This led to an unpleasant exchange via email that sort of put into perspective the depth of arrogance of Grower's Choice and Erik at LGLD. I've been in a mad rush to replace these 720 boat anchor's with little success, meanwhile Grower's Choice has been hounding me via Erik to return these lights, which has made me a little suspicious...so I've decided to pursue legal channels via the Federal Trade Commission.
In short, I am going to blow Grower's Choice out of the fucking water for fraudulently advertising and selling a product they knew was lacking a key feature(Boost Mode) yet continued to sell on the American Market. stay tuned..
 

farmingfisherman

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Well, it's seems I hurt Erik's feelings with a recent comment I made on rollitup. This led to an unpleasant exchange via email that sort of put into perspective the depth of arrogance of Grower's Choice and Erik at LGLD. I've been in a mad rush to replace these 720 boat anchor's with little success, meanwhile Grower's Choice has been hounding me via Erik to return these lights, which has made me a little suspicious...so I've decided to pursue legal channels via the Federal Trade Commission.
In short, I am going to blow Grower's Choice out of the fucking water for fraudulently advertising and selling a product they knew was lacking a key feature(Boost Mode) yet continued to sell on the American Market. stay tuned..
So did they advertise a max wattage. Is that what the light goes to when you actually turn it to the boost mode and all the other settings under it are less than max wattage? Hope that makes sense.
 

Apalchen

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Sucks cause price was good and i planned on testing a couple of them once I got everything else squared away. Maybe by then there will be more choices for affordable lights as there are so many companies making them now.
 

NeverOutgunned

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Sucks cause price was good and i planned on testing a couple of them once I got everything else squared away. Maybe by then there will be more choices for affordable lights as there are so many companies making them now.
I know fellas, on paper this was the perfect LED light. I was so excited about these that I cancelled my order of 680's, so you can imagine my disappointment when I saw the readings on my Apogee meter. The confirmation and heartbreak came when i put up the second one and got the same readings. Damn near cried.
 
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NeverOutgunned

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So did they advertise a max wattage. Is that what the light goes to when you actually turn it to the boost mode and all the other settings under it are less than max wattage? Hope that makes sense.
It runs at 770w actual, and only runs 720w when you using 220v. There is no "boost" mode despite what the controller reads there is no change in wattage or Umol output when switched to boost mode on the controller and Grower's Choice themselves confirmed through Erik at LGLD that NONE of the E720's contain this feature but "...they plan on adding it soon..", despite what all the advertisements and even the manuals says.
 
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