hom36rown
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we tries to not let facts get in his way.
Intelligent design
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hom36rown
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this post makes no sense whatsoever. How did the mayans know what date? They didnt predict the end of the world. And they certainly didnt call it 2012 if thats what you are saying. The mayans had no idea who jesus was.Too bad I'm not smoking bud since I need to pass a drug test soon.
Keep Your ignorant opinions to yourself.
The ~ means approximately. I could have googled the exact dates but its not that important. I didn't think I was going to get harped on by some jerk.
About the aliens, heres some cool vids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC8fF...eature=related
I cant wait until 2012 to see if planet X will return or is even real. Maybe the Anunnaki will visit again?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evWJ9...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POBZW...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYjiw...eature=related
Seems legit to Me though!
One question I have is how did the Mayans (or any ancient dooms day prophets) know that 2012 was going to be the date? Because We didn't start Our current yearly counting until Jesus was born (and the Mayans predicted this date before Jesus). (Maybe) I believe they knew He was coming with the new age and thus the begginning of the counting of years A.D. If We didn't have Jesus for a referance point, how else would We know what year We are in?
~PEACE~
could not agree with you more
overmyhead
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I find fossils too! And nothing in creationism/ID denies that they exist and they can actually use them to bolster their theories (i.e. groups of land animals found fossilized in swimming positions is evidence of a cataclysmic event like the flood.)
The bottom line is that believing in either "theory" takes a tremendous amount of faith. If you believe in evolution you have to account for where the initial elements and energy came from and why we don't have transitional forms walking around today. Of course, one could argue that the different races are just that - but then someone has to claim superiority, someone like, um well you get the point.
THen the ID folks have to explain where the designer came from? But that's easy for them because they believe in an eternal God.
So if there is no eternal life source or higher power where did the energy and elements come from?
On a side note, does anyone else find it ironic that the same scientists who hold onto the origin of species etc. are in effect undermining the process they hold dear by making it easier and easier for the weaker species' and those weaker ones (myself included) within a species to survive????
Where did the "semi/almost" human skeletons come from? All these "almost" humans have been found in various stages leading up to homosapiens. Where did they come from?
What about the dinosaurs?
How do christians point to DNA? It doesnt seem they have much backing, other than the text of numerous guys 70 years after the fact, who never knew the guy...
You would think that if religion was so important and a fundamental part of so many peoples lives, that it woulld make sense. Their excuse? "Faith". I just cant understand how intelligent people can believe some of the most ridiculous things. Religion controls peoples lives, and they dont even stop to question it.
With the few corruption incident aside, I do think religion is a good thing in a way. It does help many people deal with a ton of issues, and it gives kids a moral character to go by. It helps control the masses, and teach civility.
But at the end of the day, it is all BS. How do you know your religion is right? If there is a heaven, I have lived my life and will continue to live my life in a good way, live morally and treat people right...thats just the way I am. If I am not good enough for your god, who's plan includes giving 3 year olds cancer, letting kids get raped by southern bapist preachers, and the tons of other corruption affiliated with religion; then fuck it. If you follow his "plan" you're pretty sick in the head.
joepro
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Funny how people believe in 2012, but not a christian armageddon...I wonder what does the asians say about 2012 since it's like the yr 4017 to them?
Some believe in this crazy ideal of being watched at all times, behind the sceen puppet master that controls all, very close to the boogyman huh?
Beat your ass you practice religion. What did you do on your birthday? So, how was x-mass this yr?
Do you truly believe in something while you have zero first hand info on, yet no one could ever aruge with you?
What about JFK? 911? aliens? nwo? builderberg? what's the diffrence with a insider 911 video and the bible?
..lol nooo, I'm not trying to aruge with you about your beliefs and fema death camps. Just sounds very similar to a religion is all.
Vi, wants proff of a fossil... Couldn't the question be asked of where are the fossils from where dinosaurs came?
Does VI believe that the dinos just apeared on earth, coming from a hot springs?
The religion based on belief and the religion based on disbelief has a common ground, we all believe in something or nothing, but still believe with two feet in!
Some believe in this crazy ideal of being watched at all times, behind the sceen puppet master that controls all, very close to the boogyman huh?
Beat your ass you practice religion. What did you do on your birthday? So, how was x-mass this yr?
Do you truly believe in something while you have zero first hand info on, yet no one could ever aruge with you?
What about JFK? 911? aliens? nwo? builderberg? what's the diffrence with a insider 911 video and the bible?
..lol nooo, I'm not trying to aruge with you about your beliefs and fema death camps. Just sounds very similar to a religion is all.
Vi, wants proff of a fossil... Couldn't the question be asked of where are the fossils from where dinosaurs came?
Does VI believe that the dinos just apeared on earth, coming from a hot springs?
The religion based on belief and the religion based on disbelief has a common ground, we all believe in something or nothing, but still believe with two feet in!
joepro
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It's outside of jupiter and the outmost planet found...so far. shocked? nope. pluto was found in the 30sWhat do You think about Planet X/Nibiru JoePro?
~PEACE~
....Oh, where the gods came from?
I'm sure that's true, because some text had told us so. Sure why not, gods from other planets doesn't sound as silly as virgin birth, right? What parts of writin history should I pick and choose to believe? So far I have pieced together alot of half truths, falshoods and my own personal conclusions that make my own truth and religion up as I see fit. Infact, I'm my own personal god and I rule flawlessly.
Nope, nibiru isn't on my belief system, is it in yours?
I'm still skeptical but I do think it could be plausible.
There is evidence of pole shift and Nibiru could have caused the GREAT FLOOD too.
"I'm my own personal god and I rule flawlessly."
You must be doing good if You "rule flawlessly"
I also believe I'm My own personal "keeper" but I also believe in God Almighty too.~PEACE~
mindphuk
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Doesn't happen that way. Less evolved creatures are found in deeper, older strata, more complex creatures are not found until later in the geologic column. If any ID or creationist can find a 3 million year old poodle or evidence that man and dinosaurs lived contemporaneously, then evolution would be falsified and would have made national news. As it stands, there is no evidence for a world wide flood in either geologic records or fossil records.
More lack of understanding of evolution. There are many 'transitional' forms walking around today. Every species is in a state of change and evolution, therefore, every species is potentially a transitional form. Transitional and intermediate forms don't wear a sign saying that's what they are, but every single fossil that is an ancestor of modern species is by definition transitional.
In fact, there are so many transitional forms, that paleontologists argue incessently about classification. It sometimes seems like fist-fights will break out arguing whether Cynodonts is a mammal-like reptile or a reptile-like mammal. We have many transitional forms between certain land mammals and whales and dolphins. Forrms that are fish-like amphibians as well as amphibian-like fish.
There is no 'faith' in the traditional sense, needed to accept evolution. And no, we don't have to account for where the initial elements and energy came from since that isn't part of ET.
Which is why it isn't a science but a religious doctrine trying to masquarade as one.
Elements came from stars. Early stars were made up of hydrogen and helium. During the nuclear fusion process at a star's core, the lighter elements are fused to become heavier elements. During the star's death as a supernova, it spreads those new elements out into space, where new stars incorporate them into their nuclear fusion process, making heavier elements, including carbon, the basic building block of life. As the late-great Dr. Carl Sagan once said, everything we see, including humans is made up of star stuff.
More misunderstanding of selection. Remember Darwin himself did not like the term 'survival of the fittest' because the term fit is vague. Species survive based on their suitability to their environment. There is no 'goal' of evolution. It doesn't have the purpose to make the best, most advanced creature possible, it only deals with populations and their suitability in a specific environment. There are many animals that are social and protect their young, sick and most vunerable, mostly due to low numbers of offspring. It actually is evolutionary different (not necessarily better0 over insects and fish that produce hundreds to thousands of offspring where only a percentage of them survive. One tactic isn't 'better' than the other, they are just different and fill a particualr niche.
In fact, every species that exists today are descendents from winners. Every species that survived, had something beneficial to contribute to the genome to aid in survival.
I find it interesting that people find the subject interesting enough to take the time to post here, but will rarely seek out the information from the experts in the field.
I'm not sure if you are interested in learning, or are like many others, just satisfied that you can ignore the last 150 years of science in the field and make your decision with obviously limited understanding.
If you really want to learn something, try watching this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVRsWAjvQSg
It shows it is long but there is a long Q&A session at the end. If you don't think Dr. Miller makes some interesting and valid points after the first 10 minutes or so, then you are hopeless. If you are willing to spend 50 minutes watching this, I think you will actually learn some important facts.
"Sitchin attributes these figures to astronomers of the Maya civilization. Many involved in research of this kind predict a return date of Nibiru passing Earth coinciding with the Winter Solstice of 2012; specifically at 11.11 UT, 21st December 12, 2012. "
http://www.crystalinks.com/nibiru.html
~PEACE~
NewGrowth
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Uh huh then what?"Sitchin attributes these figures to astronomers of the Maya civilization. Many involved in research of this kind predict a return date of Nibiru passing Earth coinciding with the Winter Solstice of 2012; specifically at 11.11 UT, 21st December 12, 2012. "
http://www.crystalinks.com/nibiru.html
~PEACE~
mindphuk
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Just think everyone. If we expand the definition of science to include ID, this is the type of pseudo-scientific nonsense that some people will be claiming for equal time in our schools."Sitchin attributes these figures to astronomers of the Maya civilization. Many involved in research of this kind predict a return date of Nibiru passing Earth coinciding with the Winter Solstice of 2012; specifically at 11.11 UT, 21st December 12, 2012. "
http://www.crystalinks.com/nibiru.html
~PEACE~
Planet X and 2012: The Real and Historical Story of Planet X
joepro
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So, people believe in fortune tellers.
It's just a shame that the mayan people couldn't see their own future.
I'm not sure what's going to happen when the sun is in the center of the galaxy and our axis shifts.
After alittle read up I've learned it's going to be a polar reversal.The north pole will be changed into the south pole. Scientifically this can only be explained by the fact that the earth will start rotating in the opposite direction, right? Does this equal a huge disaster of unknown proportions??
good thing I'll be around to find out huh?
Might be a good idea not to live close to a fault line and nowhere near the bomb called yellowstone park.
....But I guess it wouldn't matter with the ash, you would just be sufercated slowly.
Great pep talk!!
Can't wait to run out and start the work week...
I should just fuckin quit my job and camp out at yellowstone.
It's just a shame that the mayan people couldn't see their own future.
I'm not sure what's going to happen when the sun is in the center of the galaxy and our axis shifts.
After alittle read up I've learned it's going to be a polar reversal.The north pole will be changed into the south pole. Scientifically this can only be explained by the fact that the earth will start rotating in the opposite direction, right? Does this equal a huge disaster of unknown proportions??
good thing I'll be around to find out huh?
Might be a good idea not to live close to a fault line and nowhere near the bomb called yellowstone park.
....But I guess it wouldn't matter with the ash, you would just be sufercated slowly.
Great pep talk!!
Can't wait to run out and start the work week...
I should just fuckin quit my job and camp out at yellowstone.
Stoney McFried
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I was gonna respond, but I'm tired and mindphuk did a really good job.See below.
misshestermoffitt
New Member
I thought that Nirubu was supposed to pass between Mars and Jupiter, not past Earth?
mindphuk
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As I have kept trying to point out, people need to stop reading pseudoscientific garbage on the web. If you take an imaginary line separating the Milky Way into 2 halves, the galactic equator is the dividing line. Due to the progression of the equinoxes, basically the wobble of the earth, the sun will align up with this line. It takes 36 years for the earth to complete it's journey across this line (because the sun is 1/2 degree wide).
If you take the exact center of the sun and align it with the galactic equator, it was calculated to have occurred in 1998. Therefore, our sun started it's journey across the equator in 1980 and will exit in 2016 (36 years). Nothing about 2012 is special except the fact that the sun is almost exiting the galactic equator zone by that time. Of course none of this matters since we have been in the zone for the last 28 years already.
http://alignment2012.com/whatisGA.htm
As for our magnetic poles reversing. It does seem to happen on earth and there is geologic evidence of it. The sun flips its magnetic field every 11 years. The earth is not as predictable, a magnetic reversal occurs anywhere from every 5000 years to every 50 million years. The earth continues to rotate normally since the earth's rotation has nothing to do with the magnetic field.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth's_magnetic_field
A magnetic pole flip could be devastating but there is currently no evidence when the next reversal will ocurr.