Medicinal Garden [WhiteWidoW] 6clones-Outdoor Monsters in ground w/ Organic soil(PIX)

finally took the time to go LST (low stress train) the clones by using garden twist ties and painters tape to keep it secure on the side and bent the tops of each plant over to expose the side of the plant and allow the auxins to redirect and focus wat was the orignal side growth. now the side branch will stretch upwards and i wil release the tie down in about a week or so. this will create multipul top colas.


experianced growers;

please look closely at the pix and let me know if everything looks right on the tie down part and how long should i leave them bent sideways for?

-until the side shoot grows just as tall as the original top was?

-or once that side shoot grows a couple inches should i LST it also and develope 4 main colas?

im going for a bush appearance and want to expose more bud sites for flowering down the line.

arent u able to LST thruought the entire grow? like down the line when its time to flower i can pull the branches apart and open it up for the sun to reach more bud sites right?

thanks again for the help guys


oh the first couple pix are them soaking up sun outside before i LSTd them. the rest are bent over close ups

i had bought (4) 10foot tall wooden stakes to put on each corner of the grow box.
i also bought 35% black shaded screening material.

its 6' tall and i will wrap it around the entire grow box to help keep dams gatos out and hopefully any other creepy crawlers/ also keeps the sun rays not so direct on the new babies and will help as a security camoflague setup. i will also setup a roof screen top that will prevent neighbors from above seeing down in and the sun again when its directly above wont beam strong heat waves onto the planst so it helps shade them.

4th pic is the 6'x40' shade screening i bought from OC farm supply.

3rd pic is the tomatoe cage inside the 10gallon container i just bought and in location where i will grow the other two clones under my window. still hoping th eyield will b close to the ones in the ground.

what kind of nutes u gonna use im doingan organic grow also this yr i got organic topsoil and all natural organic compost im mixingtogether its 1-1.5-1.3 and a little bat guano just apinch

nice dude. that lsting looks like it's gonna work out pretty nicely. I have some wire that I'm going to bend mine with now after seeing yours

that screen will help a lot tho. and those big containers will still work fine. stoked to see them all go into their final homes for the summer. how much longer till you put them all in their containers and the bed?

well on my calendar ive been tracking the prgoess cuz i cant ever remember shit lol.
but im gonna be gone thurs-monday to havasu for memorial and i wont be able to work on diggin those holes. i still need to use a pick to chop up the bigass root system from a yucca that was underneath the soil and get rid of it or damage it enough that it wont grow for a long time.
im still kinda a gimp and forest gump status with double knee rotation braces and can only last so long standing and digging.

but one hole is about 2ft deep right now. i still got 3 to go lol. and i want them at least 3 feet deep. so ya depends when i finish the holes and prep all my soil mixes and fill the holes before im ready to transplant. but for now vegging indoors and settin em outside to harden off and get real sun saves me cash on electricity and allows them to continue to grow fast and strong indoors while im still working. the sun will peak photoperiod in june so prob about june 1st.

its also hard to find time to work cuz im desigining and buying $5000 worth of supplies for my buddys growroom to do a rotation of harvesting 12 plant every month. so im like all over the place.

robtoker- im using bat guano and micro nutes i picked up at the hydro store. the mexican bat guano is for vegging; 10-2-1 NPK readout
then ill use the jamacian bat guano for flowering when photoperiod changes. its 2-10-1 i believe.

i will not use 100% of nute power tho so i dont over fert the babies tho. ure nutes sound low enough that u should b good. this is my first time growing with organic soil and nutes. im gonna b doing a tea mix to help control and monitor the nute effects

nice plants BooMe
Wish I could Grow outside,
Im a Montana Med Patient, and we can have 6 max in any cycle.
i own a trailer court, and my house is on the same lot, So i just took part of my 900sq. foot garage a built my indoor room. im going to watch this thread so i can kinda see how plants do outside
we have good summers and temps here,i would just have to veg indoors and flower outside, we get about 2 to 21/2 months of good summers, good luck

thanks my GTO. ya def follow the this thread weve got an indoor setup rollin rite now and another outdoor grow goin at a diff location. we will be doin an entire 24 plant inddor rotation setup in june too so that should be interesting.

yeah cool
did ya check out my indoor setup just finished it

Nice grow kickin... thats all I've been putting outdoors... white widow, cheese, himalaya gold.... couple of other of my own breeder strainds... either way im gonna be watching.... can I borrow a chair someone?

The LST looks good Boomer. LST is an ongoing thing depending on what shape and height you want the plant.

The clones look great too. Make your teas now and they will be ready to use in 24-48 hrs. I feel for you about the digging. I need to cut some trees for more sun in my yard and I need to mix my Supersoil mix. Im going to plant some in pots for now. Doing the sun dance for now.

ya diggin is hard work but gotta do it.

so GT u think i should fert these babies already? hasnt been quite a month yet and idk if the nutes that were in the FF OF has been used up...? or should i slowly introduce the fert with a tea but use a diluted amount?

ya diggin is hard work but gotta do it.

so GT u think i should fert these babies already? hasnt been quite a month yet and idk if the nutes that were in the FF OF has been used up...? or should i slowly introduce the fert with a tea but use a diluted amount?

and ya the LST is a trip cuz this morning the top that i bent over is standing straight bak up now haha like a big "S" so ill just have to keep tieing down diff sides as we go

BooMeR242 said:

ya diggin is hard work but gotta do it.

so GT u think i should fert these babies already? hasnt been quite a month yet and idk if the nutes that were in the FF OF has been used up...? or should i slowly introduce the fert with a tea but use a diluted amount?

and ya the LST is a trip cuz this morning the top that i bent over is standing straight bak up now haha like a big "S" so ill just have to keep tieing down diff sides as we go

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THe teas are prety weak so they shouldnt burn them. If you are using a commercial fert read the schedule. I just water with the G&B until the plants start to look a little lighter green. THen its time. In the Promix BX its a little easier since there isnt any nutes in the mix. In that case I just use weak nutes like 3-400 ppm. After I see they are ok with that I increase it the following 2 weeks.

Since yours are clones they are rooted and growing so they should be able to take 4-600 ppm to start. Watch for leaf curl but I doubt you will have a problem.

I forgot to tell you that the shade cloth you are putting up is not to protect the plants from the sun as they love full sun. Your growth will be a little less with the shade cloth since they will be getting less light but hey if you need to conceal that's the way to go. I may need to check out your security system before long.

hmmm interesting well maybe ill set up the screen so i can leave it open on the side that the sun shines thru in the morning and close it before the afternoon when clients come thru. at that time in the day the sun will be abve anyways. i will prob only use the roof screen when/if it rains and when the temp gets 100+

sound better?

and for the tea, i am using fox farm OF, i didnt end up gettint he promix... but i think next week when i get bak in town ill start on the tea before i get ready to transplant outdoors.

speaking of transplanting;

any use superthrive? i bought it to help plant growth and transplanting but wanna check into it more first. i also read that before u transplant that u use the superthrive a couple days before in watering to help get the roots ready or sumthing?
let me know...


i went and rented an "auger" today. another guy in a thread suggested that cuz im strugglin asa gimp to dig them damn holes especially with clay at the bottm. so in less then 1 hour ill have 4 3'x3' holes dug when its taken me a total of 7 hours just to get where im at now lol.

well worth the $35 rental fee. so for u future outdoor growers theres a tip!
lesson learned.

Im stoked you rented an auger. I was feelin bad you had to hand dig those holes with your knees being an issue. Skateboarding and snowboarding for years have left my knees a little achy, but no where near as bad as Im sure your feel. And there is no way in hell you would see me digging those holes.

haha ya thanks SS that shit went so fast. it actually took us longer to scoop out the dug up dirt than it dig to use the auger. shit worked great heres sum current pix

BooMeR242 said:

haha ya thanks SS that shit went so fast. it actually took us longer to scoop out the dug up dirt than it dig to use the auger. shit worked great heres sum current pix

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perfect! stoked to see your ladies finally get in those and you're using FF OF yea?

BooMeR242 said:

hmmm interesting well maybe ill set up the screen so i can leave it open on the side that the sun shines thru in the morning and close it before the afternoon when clients come thru. at that time in the day the sun will be abve anyways. i will prob only use the roof screen when/if it rains and when the temp gets 100+

sound better?

and for the tea, i am using fox farm OF, i didnt end up gettint he promix... but i think next week when i get bak in town ill start on the tea before i get ready to transplant outdoors.

speaking of transplanting;

any use superthrive? i bought it to help plant growth and transplanting but wanna check into it more first. i also read that before u transplant that u use the superthrive a couple days before in watering to help get the roots ready or sumthing?
let me know...


i went and rented an "auger" today. another guy in a thread suggested that cuz im strugglin asa gimp to dig them damn holes especially with clay at the bottm. so in less then 1 hour ill have 4 3'x3' holes dug when its taken me a total of 7 hours just to get where im at now lol.

well worth the $35 rental fee. so for u future outdoor growers theres a tip!
lesson learned.

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Like I said the heat is not a problem for this plant so bring on the 100+ weather. As long as you keep them watered and allow air to blow through they will be fine.

I use superthrive all the time for my plants and they love it. It is especially nice to lessen transplanting shock. When you transplant I would put your mix in those holes and make enough room so you can depot the plants and just slip them in those holes without disturbing the roots. Make sure you moisten the FF OF and water the plants before transplanting and that will help lessen the shock. Use the Superthrive in the water.

WHat type of auger was it? Was it hard to control? you did a good job but be careful when you water if you have clay on the bottom. Clay will hold a lot of water and if expansive will create a barrier to water permeating downward. This may cause your roots to become waterlogged and rot.

ya thats an issue im concerned with cuz i tested the drainaige before i put the soil in the holes and it took a while for the water to drain out so ill just have to go light on the water and just do it frequently. i decided to use a 6" auger instead of the 12" and had my dads workers swing by and do it for me they only carried a 2man auger to rent for $35 for 3 hours. but they did a good job and was easy. took more time clearing out the dirt then mixing all my soil. i ran out of FF OF and had to stop to go buy more. i used a total of like 11 1.5cu ft bags with 4 bags of vermiblend and one big ass bag of perlite. i filled up my containers too and have been watering them to let everything settle down. ill upload sum pix right now.

heres sum pix of the holes finally dug and filled in with my organic soil. also the 10gallon containers filled up, and a couple update pix of the clones in my closet vegging. theyre gettin big and had to LST them twice so far. i think im gonna need to move them outdoors soon... was gonna wait til next week but mite just do it this week?