Methods for highest possible yield indoor

jimmykimmel · Oct 20, 2016

Hey guys, so I've been growing for a few years now and I'm wondering if there would be a better way to utilise the space I've got.

It's in a bedroom about 3.5mx3m

I usually stick 20-26 in there in 15 litre pots and use 4 600w hps

They usually get to about 3 foot including pot

Yield wise it's usually between 80-125 ounce which I am happy with but I'd like to hear your opinions on increasing yield.

Could I get more on less plants? Maybe a scrog or a sea of green.

And also if i have less plants I'm
Guessing veg time is going to be a lot longer so would it be worth it in the long run?

Appreciate any advice

Lordhooha · Oct 20, 2016

jimmykimmel said:
Hey guys, so I've been growing for a few years now and I'm wondering if there would be a better way to utilise the space I've got.

It's in a bedroom about 3.5mx3m

I usually stick 20-26 in there in 15 litre pots and use 4 600w hps

They usually get to about 3 foot including pot

Yield wise it's usually between 80-125 ounce which I am happy with but I'd like to hear your opinions on increasing yield.

Could I get more on less plants? Maybe a scrog or a sea of green.

And also if i have less plants I'm
Guessing veg time is going to be a lot longer so would it be worth it in the long run?

Appreciate any advice

Scrog those cats

jimmykimmel · Oct 21, 2016

Lordhooha said:
Scrog those cats

How many plants would I use if I was to scrog?

Porky101 · Oct 21, 2016

4x 600W is TOO LITTLE for 105 m2!!

That is = to 5.7w per square foot! You need 50W per square foot.

Your room needs atleast 10x 600W HPS. 14-16 being optimal.

If your seriosly using 2400W to light that space...then show pictures of your finished buds please...want to see what they look like.

tusseltussel · Oct 21, 2016

Grow 5 ft plants

jimmykimmel · Oct 21, 2016

16 600w lights? Jesus Christ that would cost thousands in electric lol

GardenGnome83 · Oct 21, 2016

jimmykimmel said:
16 600w lights? Jesus Christ that would cost thousands in electric lol

Look into cob led. Better than hps, expert growers will agree. Efficiency.

Porky101 · Oct 21, 2016

GardenGnome83 said:
Look into cob led. Better than hps, expert growers will agree. Efficiency.

Expert growers will not agree. there is plenty of debate on the topic.

Even if he were to use LED, he would still need atleast 6,000W of LED to light that space....its a BIG space to light....especially for a flower room...

tusseltussel · Oct 21, 2016

jimmykimmel said:
16 600w lights? Jesus Christ that would cost thousands in electric lol

No not that I think someone miss calculated if new lights is your thing trade em for 4 1000s or add 2 600s
3.5 m that's like 11.5 feet right. 4 1000s with room to crawl around, you be set, cool tubed, co2 a/c huge plants

jimmykimmel · Oct 21, 2016

What sort of yield could an expert grower get in a room of that size?

Here's a few photos of what I've got going off I thought it was doing alright really

GardenGnome83 · Oct 21, 2016

Porky101 said:
Expert growers will not agree. there is plenty of debate on the topic.

Even if he were to use LED, he would still need atleast 6,000W of LED to light that space....its a BIG space to light....especially for a flower room...

6000 watts of light that don't get as hot as the others. Energy-efficient less cost better light better bud

jimmykimmel · Oct 21, 2016

Porky101 said:
4x 600W is TOO LITTLE for 105 m2!!

That is = to 5.7w per square foot! You need 50W per square foot.

Your room needs atleast 10x 600W HPS. 14-16 being optimal.

If your seriosly using 2400W to light that space...then show pictures of your finished buds please...want to see what they look like.

I said 3.5m by 3 metres lol not 35!!! I was like bloody hell 16 lights in that tiny room haha

I personally don't think there's anything wrong with my final product before, check my previous post they're about 5 and half weeks into flower and it's a 10 week strain of blue cheese

GardenGnome83 · Oct 21, 2016

Porky101 said:
Expert growers will not agree. there is plenty of debate on the topic.

Even if he were to use LED, he would still need atleast 6,000W of LED to light that space....its a BIG space to light....especially for a flower room...

Also, high pressure sodium is not the proper Spectrum.

Gaz29 · Oct 21, 2016

GardenGnome83 said:
Also, high pressure sodium is not the proper Spectrum.

What is the proper spectrum ?
JimmyKimmei, nice looking grow.

GardenGnome83 · Oct 21, 2016

Gaz29 said:
What is the proper spectrum ?
JimmyKimmei, nice looking grow.

Not just red, or yellow.
Blue is necessary, if you want it to look wet with resin. There are "conversion" bulbs, but I use an hps with a big blue spike. Ushio brand. Look it up.

Porky101 · Oct 21, 2016

jimmykimmel said:
I said 3.5m by 3 metres lol not 35!!! I was like bloody hell 16 lights in that tiny room haha

I personally don't think there's anything wrong with my final product before, check my previous post they're about 5 and half weeks into flower and it's a 10 week strain of blue cheese

Please someone else back me up here if I am right or correct me if I am wrong:

3.5 meters x 3 meters = 10.5 Square meters.

1 meter = 3.2 feet.

10.5sqm X 3.2 = 336 Square feet

The reccomended lighting requirements for HPS is 50W per square feet.

50w x 336 = 16800W

For the space, you need 28 X 600W lamps for flowering.

Porky101 · Oct 21, 2016

GardenGnome83 said:
6000 watts of light that don't get as hot as the others. Energy-efficient less cost better light better bud

6000W all produce the same amount of heat. no matter if it is from HPS or LED. they will all heat your room up the exact same.

Less cost is not true, LED's are more expensive upfront.

Energy efficient yes, if that is ones priority.

RM3 · Oct 21, 2016

Porky101 said:
Please someone else back me up here if I am right or correct me if I am wrong:

3.5 meters x 3 meters = 10.5 Square meters.

1 meter = 3.2 feet.

10.5sqm X 3.2 = 336 Square feet

The reccomended lighting requirements for HPS is 50W per square feet.

50w x 336 = 16800W

For the space, you need 28 X 600W lamps for flowering.

Google does conversions ya know

10.5m²= 113.0211ft²

Yodaweed · Oct 21, 2016

Porky101 said:
6000W all produce the same amount of heat. no matter if it is from HPS or LED. they will all heat your room up the exact same.

Less cost is not true, LED's are more expensive upfront.

Energy efficient yes, if that is ones priority.

This is correct, first law of thermodynamics and the law of conservation of energy make this true. 6000w of energy from any source will produce the same heat.

jimmykimmel · Oct 21, 2016

Porky101 said:
Please someone else back me up here if I am right or correct me if I am wrong:

3.5 meters x 3 meters = 10.5 Square meters.

1 meter = 3.2 feet.

10.5sqm X 3.2 = 336 Square feet

The reccomended lighting requirements for HPS is 50W per square feet.

50w x 336 = 16800W

For the space, you need 28 X 600W lamps for flowering.

I don't know what's going off or if I'm retarded or something but there's no way in hell that room could accommodate 28 600w lights lol the whole room would be absolutely full, not to mention it would be about 50-60c in there lol. Even with heat tubes surely it can't need that much?

As you can see from the picture they're doing great 17000w would cost thousand a month

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