Peyote AND Peruvian Torch

ndangerspecimen101 said:
It is a shame, to them anything other then beer is a tragic driven substance!
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Excuse the coarse language, but you hit the nail on the fuckin head. Why is destructive drunkeness so accepted? But a substance that potentially can obliterate everything you've ever believed and show you truth is shunned by most. Of course, one of the answers to that would be the unresponsible use of the uneducated and wreckless abusers who have given these teachers a demonizing stigma. Another shame.
 
PlantManBee said:
I'm really glad to see so many allies of the cacti :mrgreen: I recently have had access to peyote powder from the Native American Church. I must say that peyote is a very special teacher. However i have come to the conclusion the other Cacti are just as special and just as powerful teachers.

make what you want of the rest of what i have to say.

i have communed with mescalito in his native land, i have been shown the way by the white wolf and it is with the andean relatives that our future lies.

enough of that....lol . Cactus tea is a good way to get all of the good stuff, not just mescaline... i think this next time i'll make a cactus tea and dry it and cap it. :twisted:
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PlantManBee! Welcome to the thread!

Thank you for your words :D

As you mentioned, there are other special educators. Now, I must ask, to return to the original post, have you ever been taught by two teachers within the same journey? I'm not sure if it is a safe thing to do. Could it be like trying to listen to two people at the same time? Not once have I crossed paths with any facts on the subject. Any ideas?
 
CaNNaBiZ CaNucK said:
PlantManBee! Welcome to the thread!

Thank you for your words :D

As you mentioned, there are other special educators. Now, I must ask, to return to the original post, have you ever been taught by two teachers within the same journey? I'm not sure if it is a safe thing to do. Could it be like trying to listen to two people at the same time? Not once have I crossed paths with any facts on the subject. Any ideas?
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yes i have. It is safe to mix these and actually there are a good many out there that will save peyote to top off their other cacti experience. it's kind of like two voices in harmony telling you the same thing at the same time.

if you are talking of other classes of alkaloids i have had limited experiences mixing them with mescaline. that being smoking DMT on the day previous and the day after...have not tried it during the trip proper.
 
PlantManBee said:
yes i have. It is safe to mix these and actually there are a good many out there that will save peyote to top off their other cacti experience. it's kind of like two voices in harmony telling you the same thing at the same time.

if you are talking of other classes of alkaloids i have had limited experiences mixing them with mescaline. that being smoking DMT on the day previous and the day after...have not tried it during the trip proper.
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Thanks so much Plant! This is the answer I have been looking for!! I was considering combining Peyote and Peruvian Torch because I'm not sure of the essence potency of my peyote.

What would you recommend: the peyote first? (I have 4 buttons) Then the Torch? Or vice versa? Or will it make a difference in the journey? I was thinking peyote first because I have no clue how hot these beauties are and I wanted to experience pure peyote first. And maybe the Torch may not even be necessary, who knows?

Thank You!
 
Sorry for not comming back earlier, my internet is a pain.
You can mix the two, it will just increase the amount of sundry alkaloids.... not all of them good, but scertainly survivable, and probbaly interesting.
 
PlantManBee said:
I'm really glad to see so many allies of the cacti :mrgreen: I recently have had access to peyote powder from the Native American Church. I must say that peyote is a very special teacher. However i have come to the conclusion the other Cacti are just as special and just as powerful teachers.

make what you want of the rest of what i have to say.

i have communed with mescalito in his native land, i have been shown the way by the white wolf and it is with the andean relatives that our future lies.

enough of that....lol . Cactus tea is a good way to get all of the good stuff, not just mescaline... i think this next time i'll make a cactus tea and dry it and cap it. :twisted:
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Take me in your direction, please ;)
 
Yes, what a good way to put it. America has capitalized a nasty stigma among psychedelics, due to a mass majority of people consuming them in the wrong context and setting!
 
ndangerspecimen101 said:
Take me in your direction, please ;)
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just keep checking your local Lowe's and walmarts for Pedro or torch. LOL they'll take you there :eyesmoke:;-):eyesmoke: mycotopia has has an article by a guy who makes a standardized cacti concentrate. really good idea :hump: and he is also someone who has quite a bit to say about combining the cacti. i'll try to find it and link it...but i've been vaping some nothernberry and it's pretty couchlock :sleep::eyesmoke:;-)

EDIT: that was easy lol http://archives.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/12291.html?1028226920
 
Thank you EVERYONE! You have all put my mind at total ease. RIU has one of the best communities on the web. Genuine souls.

Thank You All :bow:
 
CaNNaBiZ CaNucK said:
Thank you EVERYONE! You have all put my mind at total ease. RIU has one of the best communities on the web. Genuine souls.

Thank You All :bow:
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Rest assured that'll you have someone pat you on the back on RIU and give you the information you need in a mili-second ;)

I never knew of Lowe's or Walmart carrying San Pedro or Peruvian Torch. You learn something new everday!
 
ndangerspecimen101 said:
Rest assured that'll you have someone pat you on the back on RIU and give you the information you need in a mili-second ;)

I never knew of Lowe's or Walmart carrying San Pedro or Peruvian Torch. You learn something new everday!
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I know! Neither have I! Will definitely be keeping an eye open..

Shady4 said:
One peyote wont do you nothing. Use your pedro and save peyote for later....much later
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Hey Shady, c'mon man.. At least read the first post..
 
Have you took a look at my thread, entitled "Making Mescaline HCL A Bold Reality?". There is a lot of information on cacti there! By the way, can you grow Peruvian Torch indoors or do they need total sunlight to thrive?
 
ndangerspecimen101 said:
Have you took a look at my thread, entitled "Making Mescaline HCL A Bold Reality?". There is a lot of information on cacti there! By the way, can you grow Peruvian Torch indoors or do they need total sunlight to thrive?
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they do best with strong indirect light. I burned the fuck out of one of my guys this spring....be careful reacclimating them to outside. they do really well outside in the spring summer and fall here in texas. they are SUPPOSED to be cold hardy to 15 deg. F. ....it seems this is variable and the less water they have in the winter the better they do. I lost my experimental outside guy this winter :sad: but i have other cuts. He will not have died in vain, i'm hoping to breed some hybrids with cold hardiness in mind :twisted:
 
PEYOTE IS CRAZY MAN!!!
my world history teacher tripped on that stuff for his job (he did this with trained peyote users) aka he was getting high with native americans
but he said he threw up for like 3 hours and then basically tripped ballz
but the way he described it he saw everything major that happened in his life, and that he saw his grandma and talked to her and shit, he said he was crying during some of it because it brought up some painful memories (his other job was helping out kids and so such in very poor places around the world) basically this stuff is crazy INTENSE
 
ndangerspecimen101 said:
Have you took a look at my thread, entitled "Making Mescaline HCL A Bold Reality?". There is a lot of information on cacti there! By the way, can you grow Peruvian Torch indoors or do they need total sunlight to thrive?
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I've read it end to end! Tons of great info there. I'm not sure if I'd ever do an extraction.. I've seen some great preps as well over @ Mycotopia. But if I ever get that itch who knows..

I must share with you tho, I believe this evening will be my great introduction to mescalito, depending if my PT arrives today, which I think it should :fingerscrossed:

PlantManBee said:
they do best with strong indirect light. I burned the fuck out of one of my guys this spring....be careful reacclimating them to outside. they do really well outside in the spring summer and fall here in texas. they are SUPPOSED to be cold hardy to 15 deg. F. ....it seems this is variable and the less water they have in the winter the better they do. I lost my experimental outside guy this winter :sad: but i have other cuts. He will not have died in vain, i'm hoping to breed some hybrids with cold hardiness in mind :twisted:
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Thanks for this info Bee. This should come in useful should I decide to add some additional cacti to my peyote colony, which I should be germing next week.

potka said:
PEYOTE IS CRAZY MAN!!!
my world history teacher tripped on that stuff for his job (he did this with trained peyote users) aka he was getting high with native americans
but he said he threw up for like 3 hours and then basically tripped ballz
but the way he described it he saw everything major that happened in his life, and that he saw his grandma and talked to her and shit, he said he was crying during some of it because it brought up some painful memories (his other job was helping out kids and so such in very poor places around the world) basically this stuff is crazy INTENSE
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I have been patiently waiting for an experience of my own.. Should be one heck of a ride :D
 
Therefore, they can be grown inside with a nice indirect fixture of light hitting them?

Peyote is sacred in its fullest meaning...its one of the oldest psychedelics sacraments known to man, even older than that of the mushroom! Yet again, its the hardest natural psychedelic to come by... The more rare is the more unique in my standard!

When I think about it, I too have to look back on that Mescaline HCL thread and revive some of the information I lost during the past few months :lol:
 
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