The Truth About Ron Paul - Part 2

Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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deprave said:
Ron Paul a very close 2nd to Romney in new CNN general election poll:

Romney + 10% (39% favorable - 29% unfavorable)
Ron Paul +8% (34% favorable - 26% unfavorable)
Cain +7% (17-10)
Bachmann +4% (28-24)
T-Paw +2% (20-18)
Huntsman +2% (13-11)
Santorum -4 (10-14)
Newt -14 (30-44)

Among independents, Ron beats Mitt.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/im...2/new.poll.pdf​
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I read through that poll twice and it doesn't say that. Unless I didn't see it, this is the third time you've lied about a poll result in order to try and make Ron Paul look good.
 
deprave

deprave

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dunno what to tell ya, keep paying the big bucks then lol - If you actually need that stuff I am sorry, I am curious to know why you need that, CentOS LAMP setups is what I work with, you can do mysql replication for increased performance and integrity.
 
deprave

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Dan Kone said:
I read through that poll twice and it doesn't say that. Unless I didn't see it, this is the third time you've lied about a poll result in order to try and make Ron Paul look good.
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To clarify, I removed the people who are not even running, Rudy was #1 one on that list actually on the source website. Sarah Palin was second, these people are not running.

Also I have never LIED about a poll, you just seem to misinterpret me every time. Genuine mistake on my part that I did not clarify what I did this time. I should of at the least typed out: "Among the candidates", I suppose I took it for granted and thought this was more of a "gimme". I have to keep in mind my audience includes folks like you who hate positive information about Ron Paul, sometimes I forget you exist.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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deprave said:
dunno what to tell ya, keep paying the big bucks then lol - If you actually need that stuff I am sorry, I am curious to know why you need that, CentOS LAMP setups is what I work with, you can do mysql replication for huge performance increase.
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just trying to just compare costs for a upcoming project I have planned after the summer, putting together a business model and needed to see what the cost difference would be Windows vs Linux...
 
deprave

deprave

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get to know linux and start scripting a model to make it easy for you to manage and then it will be free for life. (LAMP ftw)
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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deprave said:
To clarify, I removed the people who are not even running, Rudy was #1 one on that list actually on the source website. Sarah Palin was second, these people are not running.
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Taking options out of a poll changes the results entirely. You can't just edit people out to get the desired result and present that as an accurate poll. That's doctoring the results and distorting the truth.

Also I have never LIED about a poll, you just seem to misinterpret me every time. Genuine mistake on my part that I did not clarify what I did this time. I should of at the least typed out: "Among the candidates", I suppose I took it for granted and thought this was more of a "gimme".
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You've definetly lied about Ron Paul results multiple times. You have represented the votes of one demographic in one situation as the over all general results. You've done that twice.

You were making the claim that Ron Paul was tied for first among all republican voters when he really was only tied for first with two other people in the 18-35 demographic.

You habitually misrepresent the truth when it comes to Ron Paul. Doing so is a discredit to Ron Paul by the way. If his supporters are out their lying to try to convince people to support him, everyone else wonders why you need to make shit up to support him if he's so good.
 
londonfog

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Medical Grade said:
yea well if your going to cost compare technology's atleast compare technology that is still supported by the vendor :P
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I do agree thats why I wanted the cost for Red Hat Enterprise Linux with premium support for the year..I assumed that deprave worked tech support for Linux and would know
 
Medical Grade

Medical Grade

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Depending on your buisness, you may or may not need the enterprise level support from M$ that's the bottom line. You get what you pay for though, thats for sure.
 
deprave

deprave

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@dan
no, I did not. you simply did not read what I wrote, I said leading among INDEPENDENT republican voters of a specific age bracket which you choose to ignore - the chart I posted highlighted that on embedded within my post clearly visible - you choose to ignore this again. Pages later you continued to ignore this and continued to write that I lied...after I clarified this again for you here I am certain that you will continue to ignore/overlook this, please take the time to go back and review my postings regarding polls if you'd like further clarification, as I have grown tired of posting this.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Medical Grade said:
Depending on your buisness, you may or may not need the enterprise level support from M$ that's the bottom line. You get what you pay for though, thats for sure.
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well it will be somewhat of a call center so I would say at least for the first year support would be needed until the right personal was in place...???but I get what you are saying
 
deprave

deprave

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London I would tell you the same as I tell people who ask me those type of questions but that would aid someone highly in revealing my identity. IN SHORT: these things are unnecessary in my business, LAMP w/ CENTOS does it for free. If you really need all that stuff I am sorry for you. The small amount of "labor" and slightly increased upfront hardware cost is definitely worth it for me.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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deprave said:
London I would tell you the same as I tell people who ask me those type of questions but that would kind of reveal my identity. IN SHORT: these things are unnecessary in my business, LAMP w/ CENTOS does it for free.
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I understand but what do you do if you ever need support..everyone at one time or another needs support or you haven't been doing IT work for long..do you have to go search on a forum??? I will look into what you saying but I don't really think I can go that route for I for one don't want to spend my time being the "IT guy" and I have to make sure that we have support for any and every problem and what that cost would be...
 
deprave

deprave

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yep thats we do, support, 25 guys watch over 4,000 boxes 24/7 - Id ask you to sign on with us after you clarified what you wanted to do :P
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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deprave said:
@dan
no, I did not. you simply did not read what I wrote, I said leading among INDEPENDENT republican voters of a specific age bracket which you choose to ignore
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Which sounds good, except that's not what you said at all. You've shown a pattern of willingness to mislead people on a regular basis.
 
deprave

deprave

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Dan I am sorry you see it that way, what can I say, some post have been a little slanted I will give you that, to be bias is human nature and also the nature of statistics, some things I have said could be considered misleading depending on how you look at it, this is not my intention, I do cite my sources properly for people to have their own opinion and I have corrected myself when I make mistakes. Bias is also prevalent in your postings on this matter, you intentionally ignore and overlook things as to favor your view on this as well, however, I would argue that you go out of your way to do such while I try my best to maintain integrity but occasionally stumble.

EDIT TLDR: I think I am entitled to an opinion just as you are entitled to your opinion. I also think my opinion holds more weight when I cite my sources and make an effort to maintain better integrity and honesty while your postings are pure spin.
 
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