hey hooked yes thats what we were talkin about. and i think i read that same thing saying that. but i have tried shaking it for 30 seconds and then filtering out and i didnt get very much end product and it wasnt that potent, so the next time i did it i let some sit for 12 hours some sit for 24 and some longer shaking once ever 12 hours to mix it up and it seemed to me the longer it sat the more product came out and potency. it does however alway have a hint of the alcohol in the taste and that is why from now on when i make it i will use soem evrclear or very high proof drinking alc