Trichomes, THC and UVB light.....

bwinn27

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thanks and is there water on some of the leaves or is that the plant? anyway its looking good how many grows do you have under your belt? and then ill stick to the topic sorry.
 

tahoe58

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sumthin' like that......but then I'm the idiot....so I wouldn't put much value in anything I have to say. :roll: box-cutters are coming FedEx...Sat delivery! :mrgreen:
Hey Tahoe, Didn't someone say that the 40 watt, 48" floro UVB light I bought was a waste of time and money, and that I would most likely Hermie my Plants.

Does anyone have a knife to cut the string on that Yo-Yo......
hey Skunk...thanks....21 days vege......the lower leaves....are they a little funky? that's a highly scientific term btw.....:blsmoke:
Here's a pic' from yesterday...
 

chabnock

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Hey Tahoe,

Nice Thread, makes me wonder what more we can do to make our product better.

I have not been around for a while. When I come back, the first thread I read has some guy saying how other people are fucking each other in the ass and sucking dick and things. That and that people in here are NARCS. Is this what this site has become? Maybe i should go away for a while again.

CHILL DUDE!!!!! The world is not out to get you, but they might be if you keep up that attitude all the time.
 

tahoe58

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hey CCB....go to hear from you. you been busy eh? hope you had a great holiday season....yea there been a little kurfuffle here....mostly just walk around it....sorry you had to find out through here that I was a NARC....I WAS gonna tell you...the time was just never just right........you doing any indoor? haope allelse is well!.....walk on man!
 

chabnock

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Dude, you even knew I was talking about you. I think everyone has been overly patent with you. I am amazed you are still allowed to post at all. All the terrible things you have said. And Calling people NARCS in a weed site.. WOW!!!!!! So far out of line. You sure you smoke weed? You sure you are not hitting a different kind of pipe? You seem very stressed, and full of hate. Just relax, take a big BONG hit and become one with the weed...........:peace:
 

psyclone

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Lunch Box. You let us know (with pictures) how your super stealthy LED grow works out - with notes on the spectrum if possible. I for one am deeply interested.
SKH is posting regular updates, with pics on what he is choosing to use, which, I take it is, like me what he can find, beg, borrow and if all else fails, buy as cheaply as possible. We seem to have speculated our way up our arses here-lets see you walk the walk.
I have grown my current batch from cuttings with CFL supplemented with actinic moonlight UVA. The mother plants are in the same light environment 18/6. my 16 SOG plants are under a 250watt combined sodium/mph with 2 cool 5' fluoros up the side.
I am going to suntan them in the flowering period with a home tanning array, because I found one at my local rubbish dump. I do not know if it will help or not. I just want to know why my indoor plants yield significantly less than my outdoor plants and I believe this thread may offer a clue. If enough people try enough things and share their experience. Let us see what you have to offer. Over and out Out To Lunch Box
 

skunkushybrid

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thanks and is there water on some of the leaves or is that the plant? anyway its looking good how many grows do you have under your belt? and then ill stick to the topic sorry.
Well i started on a commercial basis and was running 2 grows almost from the start. I started my own grow so that I could do experiments and carry the results over to the larger grow. I've grown in soil, DWC and now coco, I'm just a hobby grower now, and I can't honestly remember how many successful crops I've had through. I've never had an unsuccessful one.

The watery looking stuff on the leaves is where they were burned.
 

skunkushybrid

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And skunk (MH = a lot of UVA)
What does this mean, are you saying I could get the same UVA output from a MH lamp?

Could you sit for just 3 minutes a day rising up to 14 minutes by the end of day 7, not use the MH lamp for 4 weeks and still get a suntan?

Do the metal halides come with warnings about how long you spend around a lighted MH bulb?

No.

I think you need to take a look at this link: High UVB Mercury Vapour Lamps in Zoos - Osram Ultra-Vitalux - ReptileUV Zoo Mega-Ray test results
 

psyclone

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30+ years I have grown Grass, and it was not until I came to this site that I discovered that Resin Glands were correctly called Trichomes. Didn't mean that I didn't love and cherish those Resin Gands.......and wish their increase.
 

tahoe58

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it is so totally fun to have the opportunity, to be provided the access and to have all these friends with such a breadth and depth of experience....hands on...in the water in the dirt....it is really a VERY special thing we all have here...:blsmoke:
30+ years I have grown Grass, and it was not until I came to this site that I discovered that Resin Glands were correctly called Trichomes. Didn't mean that I didn't love and cherish those Resin Gands.......and wish their increase.
 

munch box

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sumthin' like that......but then I'm the idiot....so I wouldn't put much value in anything I have to say. :roll: box-cutters are coming FedEx...Sat delivery! :blsmoke:
I'm going to let that one go by, I don't feel like argueing. Do it again though ,we can take this to round 3 whenever your ready. Just say the words
 

tahoe58

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hahahaha.....you're the light of my day bud....I am to be so priviledged that ...let this noe go by.......hahahahahahaha......thanks....and I really thought I was in for it this time.....hahahahahahahaha....what a friggin' joke!
 

munch box

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What does this mean, are you saying I could get the same UVA output from a MH lamp?

Could you sit for just 3 minutes a day rising up to 14 minutes by the end of day 7, not use the MH lamp for 4 weeks and still get a suntan?

Do the metal halides come with warnings about how long you spend around a lighted MH bulb?

No.

I think you need to take a look at this link: High UVB Mercury Vapour Lamps in Zoos - Osram Ultra-Vitalux - ReptileUV Zoo Mega-Ray test results

MH lamps are strongly recommended not to be used in reptile aquariums because they produce massive ammounts of UVA and are harmful for the pet.I thought we were talking about UVA rays now. UVA rays are not what give you a suntan bro. With all due respect its UVB rays.....
 

tahoe58

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I believe we are here in a "plant" forum......and that is different from an "animal" forum......ooohhh...sorry....that too is prolly beyond your mental capacity...my apologies.....and just in case you haven't started to read yet and research is foreign to you....uvb is not the only problem with uv spectra light.....to animals OR plants.

Twenty years ago virtually nothing was known about the effects of UVR on plants (Teramura 1986). Even today knowledge is principally limited to the effects on agricultural crops; little is known of the effects of UVR in other natural ecosystems such as forests, meadows, savannas, tundra and alpine areas (Tevini and Teramura 1989).

The responses of plants to UV irradiation include physiological, biochemical, morphological and anatomical changes. Clearly more information is needed before a reliable assessment can be made on whether changes in ambient UVB are likely to affect significantly productivity.

And regarding sunburn......Recent studies (Parrish et al 1982, Gange et al 1986) have extended determination of the erythema action spectrum up to 400 nm and have shown that the erythemal effectiveness of UVR decreases with increasing wavelength through the ultraviolet spectrum, although the rate of change of effectiveness is much less from 330 to 400 nm, than from 300 to 330 nm.

A large number of published erythema action spectra were subject to statistical analysis and combined to produce the reference action spectrum (McKinlay and Diffey 1987). This action spectrum has been accepted by both the Commission Internationale de l'Eclairage (CIE) and the International Electrotechnical Committee (IEC), and has been shown to predict accurately the erythemal effectiveness of several polychromatic light sources differing greatly in spectral composition (Urbach 1987).

Although it can be seen that UVA radiation is much less erythmogenic than UVB radiation--broadly speaking by a factor of 1000--the much higher UVA irradiance present in sunlight means that in summertime UVA radiation contributes about 15-20% to the sunburn reaction.
 

munch box

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Although it can be seen that UVA radiation is much less erythmogenic than UVB radiation--broadly speaking by a factor of 1000--the much higher UVA irradiance present in sunlight means that in summertime UVA radiation contributes about 15-20% to the sunburn reaction.
Thankyou for proving what i was trying to say. Although your off by you percentages "15-20%" whats your resource? and what bulbs were used in these studies? Why don't you break down all those big science words smart guy. cuz I think I probly have a few questions after you do.your gay...
 
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