Vert(600+400) 5 plant, from Ukraine with love

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Kid Kannabi5

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Thank you so much for taking your time to help a brother out. You are a good person. That much I can tell. You have answered so many questions I have wondered about my homeland. You can read Wikipedia, and other articles, but until you actually talk with another person of similar age ect. You don't really know. I just want to thank you for your patience .
I'm embarrassed I got my family history wrong. My Great grandmother came with her parents as a child to homestead in Both Dakota USA. 18th century when Ukraine was occupied by Austria. I guess they escaped through Austria. I don't know what year the Basaraba clan made it yo the US but it makes me want to research more. My mother sent me a photo and a photo of a document of immigration of sorts. The format she sent it in I was not familiar with and evidently erased them. I'll get em back and post. Sedan you like sativas. I have a sativa from "Serious Seeds" called "Kali Mist" they call it the queen of sativas! It is high yielding and tastes like a mix between a floral mixed with diesel fuel. (in a good way, if that makes sense) it has won many worldwide trophies, cannabis cups, and awards. It turns purple last two weeks. I could send her. The other strains o have are indica heavy. I have a hybrid that is a 50/50 indica sativa. "Green Ribbon" it's called. Lineage is "Green Crack" crossed with "Afghan". High resin producer but has a short bushy stature. Might not be the best for vert. Look up Kali Mist strain. I can get you that right away. It grows tall with many flower sites and heavy flowers.
 

outliergenetix

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okay well i don't have anything to add really other than wow! what a thread!!! you are a mad scientist bro, i never delved into the vert garden corner of this site before. i have been inspired to try something like this in my closet in the future. this really lends itself to my closet because rn i am about to flower this winter 2x600 air cooled hoods in that little closet of mine vented into the artic attic. maybe next winter i will just put a hepa over the attic opening instead of just venting my hoods and do a vert with fans like you ;) with the cold attic i think i could pull it off. maybe you will see me next year this time on the vert forum threads lol...till then peace my ukranian cannabis brotha
 

Frajola

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Thanks bro!
This time I will try to really surprise you!))
Only it is a pity that there is not enough time and money to research and implement the project.
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Now, in fact, we continue the story of our garden in real time.
Now we’ll specifically focus on the above-mentioned “Fishing Rod” technology, and more specifically, let's talk about the Silo Grow Method, applying it to a conventional ten-liter pot.
My task is to complete the audit opening in the installation of the Silo Grow Method.

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On the already extended fishing rod, I defoliate first thing
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Then I earned some of my old development, namely, the small mobile construction “Sail 2000”. It is very easy to manufacture, and if you put around four "Sails", it will be a simple version of "Pegas", which can be made at home very quickly.

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now I insert a plant pot in the sail and set it in Pegas.

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Now I am calm, the revision opening will be tightly filled with buds, like the rest of the work grid in Pegas. The efficiency of the installation, thus approaching 100%. There will be no free space or gaps !!!

to be continued....
you always surprise me Sedan. masterpiece.
 
Man. I'm just marking this for further reading, but the first couple of pages made me think, "If Tesla grew cannabis, this is how he'd do it!"

And I have the twin of your cat. Our cat's name is Rain.
 

Sedan

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I'm embarrassed I got my family history wrong. My Great grandmother came with her parents as a child to homestead in Both Dakota USA. 18th century when Ukraine was occupied by Austria. I guess they escaped through Austria. I don't know what year the Basaraba clan made it yo the US but it makes me want to research more. My mother sent me a photo and a photo of a document of immigration of sorts. The format she sent it in I was not familiar with and evidently erased them. I'll get em back and post. Sedan you like sativas. I have a sativa from "Serious Seeds" called "Kali Mist" they call it the queen of sativas! It is high yielding and tastes like a mix between a floral mixed with diesel fuel. (in a good way, if that makes sense) it has won many worldwide trophies, cannabis cups, and awards. It turns purple last two weeks. I could send her. The other strains o have are indica heavy. I have a hybrid that is a 50/50 indica sativa. "Green Ribbon" it's called. Lineage is "Green Crack" crossed with "Afghan". High resin producer but has a short bushy stature. Might not be the best for vert. Look up Kali Mist strain. I can get you that right away. It grows tall with many flower sites and heavy flowers.
Bro 18th century, it was a very long time! Yes, your last name comes precisely from those times when Bassarabia was. In fact, Ukraine was never free, starting with the Mongol-Tatar invasion, ending with the enslavement and oppression of Poland. This happened until 1939. At that time, Western Ukraine belonged to Poland. The Poles openly scoffed at the Ukrainian population. Ukrainians had less rights. But when Stalin and Hitler divided Poland in 1939. (I remind you that at that time the USSR and Germany were friendly countries.) In fact, the Second World War began not only Germany, but Germany with the support of the USSR. The two countries invaded Poland in September 1939 from two sides, and very quickly crushed it. There was only one difference: Hitler conquered new colonies, and Stalin took the tenritory, which historically always belonged to Russia.
After Poland was defeated, a joint parade of German troops and the Soviet army took place on the occupied territory in the city of Brest.


Bro, thank you! I would love to try what Americans grow!

When I decided that it was time, I gave my son a chance to try marijuana at the age of 17. It’s not accepted here and so many have condemned me for this act!

okay well i don't have anything to add really other than wow! what a thread!!! you are a mad scientist bro, i never delved into the vert garden corner of this site before. i have been inspired to try something like this in my closet in the future. this really lends itself to my closet because rn i am about to flower this winter 2x600 air cooled hoods in that little closet of mine vented into the artic attic. maybe next winter i will just put a hepa over the attic opening instead of just venting my hoods and do a vert with fans like you ;) with the cold attic i think i could pull it off. maybe you will see me next year this time on the vert forum threads lol...till then peace my ukranian cannabis brotha
I will be glad to help you with advice, Bro, when you will arrange your garden. I have a lot of experience with this!

you always surprise me Sedan. masterpiece.
Hi, Amigo! I am glad to see you and also glad that you have surrendered your difficulties and again in the ranks !!! I would like to hear you more often!

Man. I'm just marking this for further reading, but the first couple of pages made me think, "If Tesla grew cannabis, this is how he'd do it!"

And I have the twin of your cat. Our cat's name is Rain.
Yes you are right! If Tesla and Edisson are now assistants, then there would be thunder and lightning in the SDU.))

For me, my cat is a talisman !!

One time I was on the verge of suicide, my wife did not know what to do, and took the kitten in the cat shelter and presented it to me. Since then, I came to life again. I do not know that this is a miracle or a coincidence so far, but Elsa turned my life upside down.
 
Bro 18th century, it was a very long time! Yes, your last name comes precisely from those times when Bassarabia was. In fact, Ukraine was never free, starting with the Mongol-Tatar invasion, ending with the enslavement and oppression of Poland. This happened until 1939. At that time, Western Ukraine belonged to Poland. The Poles openly scoffed at the Ukrainian population. Ukrainians had less rights. But when Stalin and Hitler divided Poland in 1939. (I remind you that at that time the USSR and Germany were friendly countries.) In fact, the Second World War began not only Germany, but Germany with the support of the USSR. The two countries invaded Poland in September 1939 from two sides, and very quickly crushed it. There was only one difference: Hitler conquered new colonies, and Stalin took the tenritory, which historically always belonged to Russia.
After Poland was defeated, a joint parade of German troops and the Soviet army took place on the occupied territory in the city of Brest.


Bro, thank you! I would love to try what Americans grow!

When I decided that it was time, I gave my son a chance to try marijuana at the age of 17. It’s not accepted here and so many have condemned me for this act!


I will be glad to help you with advice, Bro, when you will arrange your garden. I have a lot of experience with this!


Hi, Amigo! I am glad to see you and also glad that you have surrendered your difficulties and again in the ranks !!! I would like to hear you more often!


Yes you are right! If Tesla and Edisson are now assistants, then there would be thunder and lightning in the SDU.))

For me, my cat is a talisman !!

One time I was on the verge of suicide, my wife did not know what to do, and took the kitten in the cat shelter and presented it to me. Since then, I came to life again. I do not know that this is a miracle or a coincidence so far, but Elsa turned my life upside down.
Bro, you have the skills to deal with whatever is thrown at you. You have survived and thrived in a very difficult environment and created immeasurable good. Keep doing the right thing. You are inspiring many! Peace and blessing on you!
 

Sedan

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Bro, you have the skills to deal with whatever is thrown at you. You have survived and thrived in a very difficult environment and created immeasurable good. Keep doing the right thing. You are inspiring many! Peace and blessing on you!
Thank, Братан!!! I also wish you all the best in this troubled world!!

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Very little time passed, and we see that it was as if there was no defoliation. Plants confidently gained leaf cover. This suggests that we do everything right and our plants are healthy.

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and of course that clone that was just stuck in the ground

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to be continued....
 

Sedan

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Yes they do recover quickly!
Flipped to 12/12 on 11/1/18
Great at you, Bro!

Only I would translate a little bit earlier to bloom. Now it will be hard for you to cope with the mass that will grow even more. You know that on the pre-flowering branches up to 30 cm. Still grow. It will be very thick and will have nowhere to bind.

If you let me, I will give you advice. Build up the grid below the horizontal method. And part of the lower long branches are redistributed down. So you will get a bigger harvest, it will also be easier for you to distribute the mass that will increase in the pre flowering stage.

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You should make it this way.

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And if possible, move apart some pots, or rather move them back, so that the radius is slightly larger from the lamp, then space will appear to distribute the upper branches! If it is very thick, then mold will definitely appear.

And do not forget that defoliation is absolutely impossible to do in the pre-flower! You had to cut the leaves again before transferring to flowering. Now only a week after the appearance of dandelions! Bro, this is very serious, the plant can die if defoliation is performed on pre-flower!
 

gr865

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Thanks for the info.
Yes you are right in that I waited to long, I had planed to do it about two weeks prior but my son and I left for Florida to feed the hungry that were displaced from Hurricane Michael. That set me back about two weeks. The plants had 16 days from the defo to when I flipped. I wish I had more room, the 4 X 4 is just not big enough for this grow.
Well, it is what it is and I have to do the best I can with what I have got, spent more time messing with the irrigation system than time spent on the plants.

Again Sedan, thanks for the help.

Your friend,
GR
 

Kid Kannabi5

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Bro 18th century, it was a very long time! Yes, your last name comes precisely from those times when Bassarabia was. In fact, Ukraine was never free, starting with the Mongol-Tatar invasion, ending with the enslavement and oppression of Poland. This happened until 1939. At that time, Western Ukraine belonged to Poland. The Poles openly scoffed at the Ukrainian population. Ukrainians had less rights. But when Stalin and Hitler divided Poland in 1939. (I remind you that at that time the USSR and Germany were friendly countries.) In fact, the Second World War began not only Germany, but Germany with the support of the USSR. The two countries invaded Poland in September 1939 from two sides, and very quickly crushed it. There was only one difference: Hitler conquered new colonies, and Stalin took the tenritory, which historically always belonged to Russia.
After Poland was defeated, a joint parade of German troops and the Soviet army took place on the occupied territory in the city of Brest.


Bro, thank you! I would love to try what Americans grow!

When I decided that it was time, I gave my son a chance to try marijuana at the age of 17. It’s not accepted here and so many have condemned me for this act!


I will be glad to help you with advice, Bro, when you will arrange your garden. I have a lot of experience with this!


Hi, Amigo! I am glad to see you and also glad that you have surrendered your difficulties and again in the ranks !!! I would like to hear you more often!


Yes you are right! If Tesla and Edisson are now assistants, then there would be thunder and lightning in the SDU.))

For me, my cat is a talisman !!

One time I was on the verge of suicide, my wife did not know what to do, and took the kitten in the cat shelter and presented it to me. Since then, I came to life again. I do not know that this is a miracle or a coincidence so far, but Elsa turned my life upside down.
Yes, I'm sure I would get a lot of people not liking me letting my kids help me garden. I just don't want them being raised thinking a plant is "evil". Or a drug. I tell them it is medicine that helps a lot of people. When they are old enough they can make an informed decision if they want to use cannabis or not. Thats just what I think about it.
 

gr865

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Yes, I'm sure I would get a lot of people not liking me letting my kids help me garden. I just don't want them being raised thinking a plant is "evil". Or a drug. I tell them it is medicine that helps a lot of people. When they are old enough they can make an informed decision if they want to use cannabis or not. Thats just what I think about it.
My son has raised my grandson and granddaughter to know what cannabis is, that Pop's has used it for medicine for years. They ask my what it is like and I am honest with them, they know that I do oil and smoke for medicine and recreation. They also know that for the developing brain it is not a good thing, as medicine to save a baby's life it works and is needed, but that we all expect them to wait, till we have a sit down with them with something we have grown and they are good with that.
So when I lite up around them it is really no big deal. They do like to fuck with me when I am baked but it is all fun. Love them to the ends of the earth.
 

Sedan

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Thanks for the info.
Yes you are right in that I waited to long, I had planed to do it about two weeks prior but my son and I left for Florida to feed the hungry that were displaced from Hurricane Michael. That set me back about two weeks. The plants had 16 days from the defo to when I flipped. I wish I had more room, the 4 X 4 is just not big enough for this grow.
Well, it is what it is and I have to do the best I can with what I have got, spent more time messing with the irrigation system than time spent on the plants.

Again Sedan, thanks for the help.

Your friend,
GR
Bro, I heard that in some cities after a hurricane people do not return and they are empty, is it true?

Yes, this is grief. In fact, I was very lucky that I had never seen any hurricanes, tornadoes, tsunamis, or earthquakes. No, of course I saw it on TV, but for me it is also scary and unreal, like an alien invasion. When the uncontrollable power is ruthless. destroys everything in its path. You immediately feel small and helpless, like a small child lost from a mother in a crowd.

Ukraine is located in a temperate climate zone, where there are no sudden changes in temperature or atmospheric pressure. Therefore, we have never had natural disasters that have suffered great human casualties.

The most dangerous thing that we can have is when in the middle of summer, the weather is hot for a very long time, and then there is a cold snap and rain. Then there may be a strong wind that breaks old trees in the city and they fall on the cars. Therefore, the authorities cut down all the old trees, and monitor the emergence of new dry branches.

Sometime in the days of Maidan, there was a strong wind at night, I was asleep. The wind blew off the poorly fixed air conditioner, and it fell down from a great height. The roar was very strong. I was very scared .. very. No, not because of the wind, I was then sure that it was hail. No, not the hail that you thought about ... This is a Grad rocket launcher. Grad (English language hail). Drunk rebels did not know how to use the Hail, they shot at random.

From 30 meters in height, the sound and power from the fallen air conditioner on the asphalt was so strong that the window panes shook. And that night there was strong thunder and lightning — it brought dread to my not yet fully awake brain. Then I really felt what it means to say goodbye to life.

Yes, I'm sure I would get a lot of people not liking me letting my kids help me garden. I just don't want them being raised thinking a plant is "evil". Or a drug. I tell them it is medicine that helps a lot of people. When they are old enough they can make an informed decision if they want to use cannabis or not. Thats just what I think about it.
. This question is very thin and it is easy to cross the line. Children now listen more to "superheroes" from the glossy pages of magazines and TV and Internet screens. We need a special approach, and first of all, that children respect their parents. But I doubt that this is respect, when, because you gave the cuff to your son for educational purposes, the son will call the police and you will be deprived of parental rights.
As I understand it correctly, in the USA it is very difficult to make children respect their parents. They honor the law of the United States more than the law of the family. Bro, is that so?

I also talk a lot and say to my son, but I'm not sure that he heard me, because it seems to me that he stopped respecting me. He has his own opinion.

My son has raised my grandson and granddaughter to know what cannabis is, that Pop's has used it for medicine for years. They ask my what it is like and I am honest with them, they know that I do oil and smoke for medicine and recreation. They also know that for the developing brain it is not a good thing, as medicine to save a baby's life it works and is needed, but that we all expect them to wait, till we have a sit down with them with something we have grown and they are good with that.
So when I lite up around them it is really no big deal. They do like to fuck with me when I am baked but it is all fun. Love them to the ends of the earth.
Even in the early 2000s, when in our country they were still not so loyal to marijuana in society, my friends came to me and were surprised, or rather were amazed that I did not hide from a small child that I smoked. They said: hide the bong from the table, he sees and understands everything !!! I answered them: So what ?!)))) They did not understand me then ...

Yes, you are right, Bro !! Truth needs to be laid in children since childhood, and not when they grow up! I am very happy, in fact, that I managed to somehow influence my son. He does not use hard drugs, only smokes. Most of his peers sniff powder and swallow pills.
 
Bro, I heard that in some cities after a hurricane people do not return and they are empty, is it true?

Yes, this is grief. In fact, I was very lucky that I had never seen any hurricanes, tornadoes, tsunamis, or earthquakes. No, of course I saw it on TV, but for me it is also scary and unreal, like an alien invasion. When the uncontrollable power is ruthless. destroys everything in its path. You immediately feel small and helpless, like a small child lost from a mother in a crowd.

Ukraine is located in a temperate climate zone, where there are no sudden changes in temperature or atmospheric pressure. Therefore, we have never had natural disasters that have suffered great human casualties.

The most dangerous thing that we can have is when in the middle of summer, the weather is hot for a very long time, and then there is a cold snap and rain. Then there may be a strong wind that breaks old trees in the city and they fall on the cars. Therefore, the authorities cut down all the old trees, and monitor the emergence of new dry branches.

Sometime in the days of Maidan, there was a strong wind at night, I was asleep. The wind blew off the poorly fixed air conditioner, and it fell down from a great height. The roar was very strong. I was very scared .. very. No, not because of the wind, I was then sure that it was hail. No, not the hail that you thought about ... This is a Grad rocket launcher. Grad (English language hail). Drunk rebels did not know how to use the Hail, they shot at random.

From 30 meters in height, the sound and power from the fallen air conditioner on the asphalt was so strong that the window panes shook. And that night there was strong thunder and lightning — it brought dread to my not yet fully awake brain. Then I really felt what it means to say goodbye to life.


. This question is very thin and it is easy to cross the line. Children now listen more to "superheroes" from the glossy pages of magazines and TV and Internet screens. We need a special approach, and first of all, that children respect their parents. But I doubt that this is respect, when, because you gave the cuff to your son for educational purposes, the son will call the police and you will be deprived of parental rights.
As I understand it correctly, in the USA it is very difficult to make children respect their parents. They honor the law of the United States more than the law of the family. Bro, is that so?

I also talk a lot and say to my son, but I'm not sure that he heard me, because it seems to me that he stopped respecting me. He has his own opinion.



Even in the early 2000s, when in our country they were still not so loyal to marijuana in society, my friends came to me and were surprised, or rather were amazed that I did not hide from a small child that I smoked. They said: hide the bong from the table, he sees and understands everything !!! I answered them: So what ?!)))) They did not understand me then ...

Yes, you are right, Bro !! Truth needs to be laid in children since childhood, and not when they grow up! I am very happy, in fact, that I managed to somehow influence my son. He does not use hard drugs, only smokes. Most of his peers sniff powder and swallow pills.
Children need to know the truth about plants, and also about chemicals. If the truth is shared with them when they are young, then they aren't likely to fall prey to chemicals that can actually be a danger to them.

Honestly, I want to teach mine to grow their own food and medicines. It's a process.
 

Sedan

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Children need to know the truth about plants, and also about chemicals. If the truth is shared with them when they are young, then they aren't likely to fall prey to chemicals that can actually be a danger to them.

Honestly, I want to teach mine to grow their own food and medicines. It's a process.
I can say what I experienced on my own with my son. Children, up to the age of thirteen, before puberty, perceive their parents, who really educate them and invest knowledge in them, like gods. They share everything and have virtually no secrets from their parents. Up to this point, it is meanuy and malleable material from which you can make everything you want.

Also, up to thirteen years old, the child has a psyche. Here I can say for sure that the mental state of health of a child lies entirely with the responsibility of his parents. Here neither the money nor the social status of the parents play any role. It all depends on what kind of parents are inside, their moral and spiritual values, their conscience, their honor, their loyalty. What is the situation of relations in the family between the father and mother of the child.

At this age, in the period when the vessel of the child’s consciousness is greedily filled with knowledge and life experience, which the child unwittingly draws, copying the behavior of those whom he considers to be the powerful of the world, namely his parents. Over time, we begin to understand that the child, in the period of family conflicts, uses the same weapon and the same methods as we do in such cases. It becomes our mirror image.

Consequently, it is safe to say that all those negative qualities that manifest themselves over time in the nature of the child, for which we love to curse children and punish, are nothing but our own vices that we passed on to the child, without even noticing .

We say: No! This can not be! We did not teach him the bad, we instilled in him only the good. How are we mistaken, my friends! The child does not listen to what we say to him - the child copies our actions, not our words, applying them in practice — that’s what matters most !!

Every person, without exception, has his own vices. Exactly these vices and go into the psyche of the child, in one form or another !! It all depends on ourselves! We must not only tell the child the truth. We must be honest and sincere with the child, as well as with all members of the family where the child lives. Raising a child rightly is nothing else than unbearable work, where we are primarily raising not a child, but changing ourselves for the better. Only in this case, we will see our child, when he grows up, who we would like to be ourselves!!

Unfortunately, after thirteen years, the child begins to move away sharply from us. He has secrets, he begins to close the doors of his comets, he has his own opinion. There comes the most difficult and dangerous period in the upbringing of the child. Now everything depends entirely on how his peer environment enters. Who will be his friends and mentors. At this moment, if we did not have time to put something into the child, then it is already too late. The child goes into solo swimming. Parents go to the distant plan. They are already uninteresting to the child.

PS: My wife very often tells me lately: that my son is my copy !!! Do you know when she says that? When quarreling with him !!! Unfortunately, my son intercepted from me for the most part my vices. I just now began to realize that I could become a real father of a child only closer to forty years. Then I was clearly not ready. It was then ... twenty years ago ...

I was then weak, stupid and short-sighted, in order to struggle with my own vices in the family, setting the correct example for my son!
 
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Sedan

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World fucked tv
At the time of change, reduce the urban day
I was not ready to relieve this passion, turned gray
I hate myself, but I live every day, I
Only clouds and shadow

Because nobody understood me
nobody wanted me to know
This world burned out for me, kill me
Bury my body, because I don’t expect change
I'm bored with everything, especially myself
He gave the floor to himself

Do not forget for whom I live, but I scum and asshole... I am a bastard,
I did not keep this promise
I tried to express myself
But they did not understand me and beat me
Only to sense from this, I will not die
Forget my name, forget me!

 

Kid Kannabi5

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This West German group enjoyed unreal popularity in the USSR in the mid-80s. Among ordinary people.))

Yes! B.B.B. I have heard this before. I love music! I was born in '82, but I was a Break-Beat/Drum n Bass/Hip-Hop DJ from 2001-2009. So i know alot of music from all around the world. To me music is a universal language! Funny story:The first time I ever heard MC Hammer I was either 8 or 9 years old. I was on a vacation/holiday to London England to stay with family friends for two weeks. The neighbor kids were about my age, maybe a year or two older, but they put a cassette tape in the "boom box", and it was like nothing i had heard before! I was hooked! I had always loved music, but "what is this high energy, rhythmic music I am hearing?". That really started my love of Hip-Hop style music. The funny part is MC Hammer is a U.S. artist that I heard first in England. After that I was hooked. My mom had tried to shelter me from what she called "gang music". Lol little did she know after I discovered MC Hammer, I was introduced to "N.W.A." and "Public Enemy", 2 Live Crew ect...Then came the most influential album to me as far as hip-hop goes "The Chronic". The original. That is my favorite '90s hip hop album. I miss DJing. Trying to update equipment and teach my music loving daughter how to mix records and scratch ect. So expensive for club quality equipment. One console at a time. (My ex-wife destroyed my old equipment worth $12,000.00 US dollars. So I must start over. They don't even make Technics Decks anymore! Have to buy used, or remanufactured. Anyway I love music. Thanks for sharing. Love to hear what is popular now in the club's and discotec's music currently popular with youth. Love to hear more!
 
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