Of course it doesn't mention that. That is what Oakland will be charging per year for their permit fees. Its just an example. Do you think your city/county will say" well Oakland charges too much, I want to do my people a favor, and I don't want to make too much tax revenue from it, here is your permit for $50 a year" YEAH RIGHT!!!
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Dan Kone
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That'll depend on the city/county. My county will be much more about having a solid and safe business plan. They are more concerned with the money generated staying local than getting a fee. I think many places will be more interested in the potential jobs/economic stimulus it's creating. Sure, it might be $30k in some places, but it'll also be a few hundred dollars in other areas. It all depends on your local representation.
where will it be a few hundred dollars? nowhere in prop 19 does it say "a few hundred dollars".
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i think that it would be problematic to have that wide a gap in fees between counties - i'll guess that we have a more uniform fee in rural areas of slightly less than urban districts like Oakland, but close to that $30K figure.. no county will want to make itself THE county to grow or sell i predict.. i could be wrong though..
Dan Kone
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I was speculating. No where does it say a few hundred dollars nor does it say 30k dollars.
Dan Kone
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I'm not so sure. The economic activity it creates could be very appealing to some counties especially in northern California. There are thousands of people in northern California making a living off of cannabis currently and not paying any income tax. Just getting these people legal and paying taxes might be much more beneficial than having a probative fee. Think about how much tax money Humboldt county would collect if all the growers/trimmers/sellers all paid income tax. That would far outweigh the benefit of having some huge license fee.
Dan Kone
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those people are medical growers who shouldn't be affected by prop 19.
Yeah, every grower in humboldt county is a medical grower. of course....
There are no large scale outdoor grows there either right?
i'm pretty sure they all have their paperwork in order. it would be silly not to. and if they don't they are growing illegally. and if they are growing illegally now, what makes you think they will run out and pay taxes.
most of "those people" you speak of are medical growers who won't be affected by prop 19.
next.
Dan Kone
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lol. You're so full of shit. I can't speak for everyone in humboldt county but I do know many many people up there who are way beyond any medical limits.
it would be silly not to. and if they don't they are growing illegally. and if they are growing illegally now, what makes you think they will run out and pay taxes.
They are growing illegally because there is no way to legally grow on the that scale. Give them an option to do it legally and many would jump at the chance. They aren't growing illegally specifically to avoid taxes. They aren't paying taxes because in order to do so they'd be admitting to a felony.
I'm not saying they want to pay taxes, but give them the chance to grow as much as they want with no fear of the cops and many of them will take paying taxes as an expectable trade off.
lol. no they aren't. Some of them have medical cards but your telling me all those greenhouses and 20 light grow houses are about "medicine"? lol. bullshit. They are growing weed to make money. Nothing wrong with that, but to pretend it's all part of prop 215 is a bunch of crap and you know it.
regardless of why they are growing, they still went and spent 125 dollars at the dr. and got a card. why is this so hard to accept?
if they are already growing as much as they want now, why would they run out to pay taxes?
none of your points make any sense.
Dan Kone
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ummm. Ok. That's not hard at all to accept. Good for them. But don't tell me they are running greenhouses full of plants because of their insomnia. If you're doing large scale outdoor crops of more than one thowie indoors, you're growing to make money. It's that simple.
In exchange for being able to grow as much as they want legally without running the risk of being sent to prison and having their property seized. It's a fair trade.
none of your points make any sense.
I'm making a hell of a lot more sense than you. You just tried to claim that most of the weed being grown in Humboldt is all medicinal growing. That's pretty laughable to anyone who's spent time there.
no, i said the PEOPLE growing it had medical paperwork. it was you who came up with rest.
the people up north, are doing just fine right now.
Dan Kone
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no, i said the PEOPLE growing it had medical paperwork. it was you who came up with rest.
lol. fail
the people up north, are doing just fine right now.
Of course. Why would the "I gots mine" crowd want anything to change? They are making tons of money off it being illegal.
"medical growers", as in "those who have paperwork". it was you who spewed "insomnia", outta nowhere.
and it's cool you finally get it. those up north have NO desire to pay taxes. hence why most are voting NO.
most everything you post is speculation. it's funny you try to tell me what i know and live daily. you try to debate what i know as the truth. it's silly i even reply to you. i'm really bored.
most of those growers are growing with 215 paperwork. they are already "legal". they will not be affected by prop 19. they will have no reason to voluntarily pay taxes. unless it is later implemented upon them. which prop 19 clearly states won't happen. right?
try to stay focused this time.
Dan Kone
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and it's cool you finally get it. those up north have NO desire to pay taxes. hence why most are voting NO.
No. Most people up there are voting no because they are making huge profits off of it being illegal.
Not exactly. I just think you're being dishonest/speaking in half truths most of the time when it comes to prop19. I think you actually do know that what I'm saying is right, you're just indifferent to the truth. You hate Richard Lee so therefor you have to complain about every part of prop 19 and never admit that it has any benefits at all, regardless of if those complains have any basis in reality or not. It's not that you don't know if what you're saying is right or wrong, you just don't care about that. You just want it to fail because you don't like Richard Lee. It's very transparent.
Dan Kone
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Lol. There is no piece of paperwork that makes it legal to grow massive greenhouses full of plants or rent a house out and put up 20 lights. There is nothing legal about that at all. I don't care if someone has their paperwork or not, that is not legal medical growing.
they will not be affected by prop 19. they will have no reason to voluntarily pay taxes. unless it is later implemented upon them. which prop 19 clearly states won't happen. right?
try to stay focused this time.
lol. dude. just because you have 215 paperwork doesn't make it legal to grow as much bud as you want and sell it. And don't try and claim they are all selling it to the clubs. I'm up there enough to know that's total bullshit. Most of the clubs up there are just fronts anyways. No one goes to them.
Dan Kone
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for the 100th time, i have a lot more reason then my dislike for richard lee to vote no. it's the only thing you can point out though. i understand why.
so you say. It sounds a lot more like you decided you didn't like prop19, then came up with the reasons why you didn't like it later.
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