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KnowAndGrow

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The pretty knowledgeable bunch seems to think it was okay to impeach a sitting president for making a phone call that he was absolutely qualified and supposed to make, and ignore a president who actually did what the other guy was accused of. They also seem to have missed the "collusion" thing...where the dossier the "collusion" was based on was actually paid for by the DNC. It was okay to impeach a president for the intended election interference of his opponents...

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Did you see what Trump did??? He threw that fish food right into the pond!! How disrespectful!!! (the camera caught, moments before, Prime Minister Abe doing the SAME thing!)

Did you see Trump with the German chancellor's wife? She wouldn't shake his hand!! Smart woman... (the camera caught, moments before, her giving him a HUG!)

Trump is going to get us in a war with North Korea!!! Trump became the first president, in my lifetime (and I'm 64), to step foot on North Korean soil. But, not once did he EVER show weakness to North Korea!!
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Now watch, as my post gets lots of "Haha's" (from those who can't refute what I said - if you can't argue against it, just make fun of it...mostly why I don't make comments here, other than my canna stuff), or arguments that reference such independent sources as CNN and MSNBC.
 

Fogdog

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"impeach a sitting president for making a phone call that he was absolutely qualified and supposed to make, and ignore a president who actually did what the other guy was accused of."

Evidence says otherwise. Yes, the one who posted that was mocked but not for the reasons it said.

That's the thing with right wing pundits and opinion speakers on Fox, Newsmax, and right wing radio. There isn't a shred of evidence to support the things they say yet they come across as angry that people who look for evidence to back up claims such as the ones it made here, can't find any. In fact we find reams of evidence that makes what you said out to be a lie. Their anger is the clue that they are simply appealing to emotions or employing the "offense as a defense" type of approach.

No, Trump tried to use US the national security budget to coerce the leader of another country that needed US military aid to do him "a favor", he used that exact word. "A favor", a political favor. This is where a the right wing cultist will start frothing about Hunter Biden and Burisma. Then again, after hundreds of hours of testimony before Congress, there is no evidence of what they claim (or lie) about. Nothing. In fact, there is evidence contradicting. Hence the expression of grievance. Yes we are laughing but not for the reason he said.

I'm not calling Know a liar, but am going to point out that people who repeat a liar's lies are called dupes.
 

Fogdog

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yep just as i thought the Russian propagandist aren't happy at all.......



owe well, there is always an alternative.........LEAVE Ukraine

i'll find more out today.....
Their benefactor feels betrayed.

"After all I've done for you, you do this to me"
 

printer

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McConnell blasts Tucker Carlson for demonizing Ukraine aid
Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) blasted conservative commentator Tucker Carlson on Tuesday for playing a leading role in demonizing the idea of sending military aid to Ukraine, saying the former Fox News host wound up “where he should have been all along” when he gave Russian President Vladimir Putin a megaphone during a fawning interview earlier this year.

“I think the demonization of Ukraine began by Tucker Carlson, who in my opinion ended up where he should have been all along, which was interviewing Vladimir Putin,” McConnell said, referring to Carlson’s two-hour interview with Putin in February, which drew widespread criticism for not challenging Putin’s dubious claims and declarations.

“He convinced a lot of rank-and-file Republicans that maybe this was a mistake,” he said.

Putin dominated most of the interview with Carlson, hardly giving him a chance to ask questions as he rambled about Russian history, the breakup of the Soviet Union and the threat of Soviet expansion.

The Russian president later disparaged the experience by saying he “didn’t get complete satisfaction” from the interview because he didn’t get any tough questions.

“To be honest, I thought that he would behave aggressively and ask so-called sharp questions. I was not just prepared for this, I wanted it, because it would give me the opportunity to respond in the same way,” Putin said afterward.

Former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson called the interview “ludicrous” at the time.

“We must not fall for this tissue of lies above all for the notion that Putin is somehow fated to succeed in Ukraine,” Johnson said in a video posted in February by the Daily Mail.

Carlson defended the interview earlier this year.

“And by the way, I should just say at the outset, I’ve been accused of being pro-Putin, and I’m not,” he argued during an appearance on Glenn Beck’s BlazeTV+ program in February. “And if I was, that’s OK, too. I’m an adult man, an American citizen, I can like or dislike anyone I want. I can have any opinion I want.”

Carlson has been a leading critic of U.S. involvement in the war since before he left Fox and appeared to have a significant impact on Republican views of the war, something McConnell acknowledged Tuesday.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) told Carlson a year ago that the war was not a vital national interest.

“While the U.S. has many vital national interests … becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them,” DeSantis said in a statement provided to “Tucker Carlson Tonight” more than a year ago.

DeSantis came under heavy criticism and later walked back the statement.

Other senior Republicans have voiced concern about the infiltration of what they view as Russian “propaganda” in conservative media and among their party’s base.

“We see directly coming from Russia … communications that are anti-Ukraine and pro-Russia messages, some of which we even hear being uttered on the House floor,” House Intelligence Committee Chair Mike Turner (R-Ohio) told CNN’s “State of the Union” earlier this month.

Even before Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022, Carlson called Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky — who was democratically elected — a “dictator,” and asked why the United States wasn’t siding with Russia in the conflict.
 

Fogdog

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yep....and they're still ragging about it today.....russian propagantist Vladimir Solovyov has been going at it for the last couple of more days now....you can tell he's now a happy camper....
I mean, all those phone lines tied up for days on end and all those useless rubles spent on people masquerading as concerned Americans. And THIS is WHAT THEY DO to repay that effort?

Yup, Putin might just decide to invade the US through Alaska, which the US stole from Russia, instead of Latvia, Lithuania and Georgia.
 

printer

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I mean, all those phone lines tied up for days on end and all those useless rubles spent on people masquerading as concerned Americans. And THIS is WHAT THEY DO to repay that effort?

Yup, Putin might just decide to invade the US through Alaska, which the US stole from Russia, instead of Latvia, Lithuania and Georgia.
Last week three Russians parachuted to the North Pole.

"...a mission that also served as a test of a new prototype communications system for use in the Arctic,"

"They landed near Russia's Barneo polar base, where Tsaplin said they were able to power up a server using diesel generators and establish a connection to a satellite. The equipment had been dropped earlier from a lower altitude."

"Communications in the Arctic are likely to take on greater importance as nations including Russia, the United States and China compete there for resources, trade routes and military advantage."
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/three-russians-parachute-stratosphere-north-pole-2024-04-19/
 

BudmanTX

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as of right now the aid package has been signed.........stuff will start moving with in hours of that being signed....

meanwhile in Russia:
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460k of men gone atm....that with a 100 to 200k not accounted for, good portion of tanks gone, APC's gone, the use of NK 155mm shells almost depleted while some just don't work cause they're to old.......

i've been noticing since the line of contact has been pushed the line of reinforcements has been made so thin that prolly cause of drone strike against the reserves behind the lines...

some people are saying that in this package there are gonna be long range ATACM's in it, and a bunch of other goodies to go along with them.....so we'll see.....

some things i would like to see on the UA side:

1: where are the bombing runs, i know the UA AF is depleted and in the late spring and early summer F16 are gonna be in the mix there, think it's time to load them up with 2k bombs, and start hitting targets with them.

2: the US is decommissioning some of the A10's, so instead of decomissioning them, send them to UA for use there, they're not called the Tank Busters for nothing.

3: attack Helo, i've notice that some units got Blackhawks helo, lets start bring in the Apache (early additions), you can't attack a contested settlement without air support, attack helo would give it that.....


ok enough of me ranting
 

printer

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Ukraine used secretly supplied US missiles to hit Russian targets
The U.S. has already provided long-range Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS) to Ukraine, according to a Pentagon spokesperson.

President Biden in February directed officials to supply the longer-range versions of the ATACMS, which have been long requested by Ukraine to strike at Russian targets deep behind enemy lines.

These ATACMS were first provided in a $300 million package announced on March 12 and arrived in Ukraine in April, the Pentagon official said.

“We did not announce that we were providing Ukraine with this new capability at the time in order to maintain operational security for Ukraine at their request,” they wrote in an email.

Ukraine has already used the ATACMS to bomb a Russian airfield in Crimea and a Russian-occupied region of eastern Ukraine, according to The Associated Press.

The news comes the same day Biden signed into law a national security package that includes roughly $61 billion for Ukraine. The Biden administration also announced an additional $1 billion package for Kyiv on Wednesday.

The Biden administration previously supplied Ukraine with older versions of ATACMS, but the best version of the weapon system can strike targets up to 190 miles away — making them highly valuable to strike at Russian logistical hubs or strategic military points.

ATACMS have long been on the wish list for Ukraine, even as they have gotten similar long-range artillery from European partners, including Storm Shadow missiles from the U.K.

Congress pushed the Biden administration to include the long-range versions in previous weapons packages, but the secret shipments already sent to Ukraine appear to have eluded even lawmakers in Congress who have called for the ATACMS.

The Pentagon spokesperson said that until recently, the administration was “unable to provide long-range ATACMS to Ukraine because of readiness concerns.”

“But behind the scenes, the administration has been working relentlessly to address these concerns,” the spokesperson said. “We have new ATACMS coming off the production line and being transferred into military stocks, and, as a result, we were able to move forward with this provision of ATACMS while also maintaining the current readiness of our armed forces.”

The spokesperson added that Biden directed his team to provide the ATACMS after North Korea supplied ballistic missiles to Russia for use in Ukraine and while Russian forces continued to pummel Ukrainian civilian infrastructure.

“The ATACMS will help Ukraine deny Russia safe haven anywhere in occupied Ukrainian territory,” the spokesperson explained. “Together with the significant aid package the president approved today, they will provide an important boost to Ukraine, which has been on the defensive for months.”
 

printer

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"We are broke."
Nebenzya announced Russia's readiness to renounce any weapons in space
Russia expresses its readiness to conclude an agreement banning the deployment of any type of weapons in space. This was stated by Russia's permanent representative to the UN Vasily Nebenzya. He noted that Russia is calling for a ban.

“We are ready, even tomorrow, to conclude an international legally binding agreement that would contain a comprehensive ban on the deployment of any types of weapons in outer space,” Nebenzya said during a meeting of the UN Security Council. The broadcast was conducted on the organization’s YouTube channel. At the same time, he noted that the West is ready to sign such an agreement.

Previously, the Russian Federation used its veto power in the UN Security Council and blocked a project prepared by the United States and Japan on the non-deployment of weapons (nuclear weapons) in space. It is clarified that 13 out of 15 UN Security Council countries and China voted for the resolution.
 

Fogdog

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"We are broke."
Nebenzya announced Russia's readiness to renounce any weapons in space
Russia expresses its readiness to conclude an agreement banning the deployment of any type of weapons in space. This was stated by Russia's permanent representative to the UN Vasily Nebenzya. He noted that Russia is calling for a ban.

“We are ready, even tomorrow, to conclude an international legally binding agreement that would contain a comprehensive ban on the deployment of any types of weapons in outer space,” Nebenzya said during a meeting of the UN Security Council. The broadcast was conducted on the organization’s YouTube channel. At the same time, he noted that the West is ready to sign such an agreement.

Previously, the Russian Federation used its veto power in the UN Security Council and blocked a project prepared by the United States and Japan on the non-deployment of weapons (nuclear weapons) in space. It is clarified that 13 out of 15 UN Security Council countries and China voted for the resolution.
would this only make sense if US or China have already deployed them and they have not?
 
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