Fogdog
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If I understand the deal correctly, Hamas wants to count the return dead hostages as part of the deal for the ceasefire. So, probably not.
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OldMedUser
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I wonder how many of those dead hostages are because of Israel's indiscriminate dropping of 2000lb bombs to collapse tunnels the hostages were/are being held in.
Bibi has a lot to answer for.
BudmanTX
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that make me wonder too, and at the moment the IDF has taken the Rafah Crossing and is on the move on a second axis towards somewhere else.I wonder how many of those dead hostages are because of Israel's indiscriminate dropping of 2000lb bombs to collapse tunnels the hostages were/are being held in.
Bibi has a lot to answer for.
if the hostages are alive, i doubt there will be many of them i hate to say......
Fogdog
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Yes, the Israeli govt and Hamas both have a lot to answer for. But still, negotiating a peace fire using with dead hostages seems cruel, warped and intended to cause Israel to reject the deal. In this one detail, I agree that Israel should reject any offer like that.I wonder how many of those dead hostages are because of Israel's indiscriminate dropping of 2000lb bombs to collapse tunnels the hostages were/are being held in.
Bibi has a lot to answer for.
Fogdog
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If Hamas could keep their leaders alive through this, they could keep their hostages alive.
'nuff said.
BudmanTX
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Fogdog
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Itamar Ben-Gvir an Israeli far-right politician and lawyer who has served as the Minister of National Security since 2022.[2] He is the leader of Otzma Yehudit, a Kahanist and anti-Arab party that won six seats in the 2022 Israeli legislative election, and is part of what has been called the most right-wing government in Israel's history.
BudmanTX
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thanks fog, i was wondering who that asshole was.....
BudmanTX
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inconsistant huh.........idk
State Department Submits Key Report to Congress on Israel’s Use of US Weapons
The State Department submitted its NSM-20 report on Israeli assurances that use of U.S. weapons will follow international law.
www.justsecurity.org
BudmanTX
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"We've not enabled or encouraged strikes outside of Ukraine, but ultimately, Ukraine has to make decisions for itself about how it's going to conduct this war," he said.
kyivindependent.com
wait wut??? think maybe that could have stopped the Karkiv stuff?
Blinken: Washington has not encouraged Ukraine to strike inside Russia with US weapons, but decision up to Kyiv
Blinken was asked about recent Ukrainian complaints that a Washington ban meant Ukraine could not strike Russian forces as they built up before crossing the border into Kharkiv Oblast.
kyivindependent.com
wait wut??? think maybe that could have stopped the Karkiv stuff?
BudmanTX
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Mike Johnson......have you grown a pair.......what?
In response to the ongoing debate whether the US should lift restrictions on US weapons being used inside Russia, US House Speaker Mike Johnson said that "Ukraine should be allowed to prosecute the war in a way they see fit. They need to be able to fight back and us trying to micro manage that effort is not a good policy."
In response to the ongoing debate whether the US should lift restrictions on US weapons being used inside Russia, US House Speaker Mike Johnson said that "Ukraine should be allowed to prosecute the war in a way they see fit. They need to be able to fight back and us trying to micro manage that effort is not a good policy."
BudmanTX
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Russia or right wing partisans doing some sneeky shit here.....
Sativied
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That debate is ongoing in Europe as well and there's clearly a shift towards allowing Ukraine to use the weapons more as they see fit. Topped by the Germany's foreign minister just days ago: "Ukraine’s armed forces need more long-range weapons to be able to hit targets deep behind the frontline", putting pressure on Scholz to ok the delivery of the Taurus missiles.
BudmanTX
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nice, i like see the debate there....IMHO i think they should be able too....i know it sounds crazy but UA would be able to hit, military installations, troops build ups, and also weapon storage area that are across the border. If they would have had the green light earlier, what's going on in the Karkiv and Belogordo arenas wouldn't have prolly happened and the shelling in the north would prolly almost be halted.
Sativied
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Dutch foreign minister wants EU to let Ukraine fire supplied weapons on Russian targets
Ukraine should be allowed to utilize weaponry supplied by Western countries to strike Russian targets. Outgoing Foreign Affairs Minister Hanke Bruins Slot promised on Thursday that the Netherlands would state this position in communications with the European Union and NATO members.
nltimes.nl
She’s on her way out, about a month to go, so not for show or votes or w/e. New government, messed up coalition as it is, already agreed NL will continue financial, political, moral and military support to Ukraine.
And uhm where’s @printer ?
Ozumoz66
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He lives in Manitoba - I'm guessing mosquitoes got him. Sorry, that's all I've got. Hope he's doing well.
BudmanTX
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i was wonder where he was too.....hmmmDutch foreign minister wants EU to let Ukraine fire supplied weapons on Russian targets
Ukraine should be allowed to utilize weaponry supplied by Western countries to strike Russian targets. Outgoing Foreign Affairs Minister Hanke Bruins Slot promised on Thursday that the Netherlands would state this position in communications with the European Union and NATO members.
She’s on her way out, about a month to go, so not for show or votes or w/e. New government, messed up coalition as it is, already agreed NL will continue financial, political, moral and military support to Ukraine.
And uhm where’s @printer ?