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Roger A. Shrubber

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But here new problems emerge. First, the United States does not allow anyone to control whether they comply with the convention at all. This is the only country out of all the participants that simply said that they would not let anyone into their laboratories, and that was it. Secondly, the Pentagon deliberately places laboratories on the territory of third countries. There you can ensure complete secrecy - as it was in Ukraine - and get rid of the surveillance of any regulatory authorities, even the American ones themselves

And finally, the convention, which is observed by all respectable countries of the world, will be fifty years old this year. She is hopelessly outdated. During this time, many ways to bypass it have appeared.

The US military is not without reason so fond of experiments with viruses. There was no genetic modification fifty years ago, and in the plant, accordingly, there was no way to edit the virus so that it was transmitted from animals to humans. Well, the Pentagon began to send its combat zoologists and virologists around the world. They are looking for new dangerous viruses in wild animals, and before they passed to humans. Then they are moved to the laboratory - and "editing" begins.

The whole bat coronavirus operation is completely on this line, no matter what they tell us about unsanitary conditions in Chinese markets. The Russian military has just received evidence that similar dangerous experiments were carried out in Ukrainian laboratories. But this is not just a violation of the biological weapons convention. Considering that the population of Ukraine, which “treated” the US Department of Defense for coronavirus, was the test subject here, we can probably already talk about a violation of the Nuremberg Convention here? About crimes against humanity?

In total, there are thirty American biological laboratories on the territory of Ukraine. They are located in the largest cities of the country - Kyiv, Odessa, Kharkov, Lvov. Exposing all mankind to monstrous danger, the US military has practically "mined" the territory of Ukraine. What will the impact of a single shell on such an undefeated laboratory lead to?

About this danger hanging over the whole world, it would be necessary to speak from the highest tribunes. Moreover, this infernal machine is only gaining momentum. The US military is paying for more and more large-scale experiments to find deadly viruses in the wild and enhance their functions.

Take the same Peter Dashak - so much compromising evidence has been posted about him. In a good way, they should be dealt with by the competent US authorities today. But he wasn't even suspended from working with pathogens. More recently, the US Department of Defense awarded him new grants to further search for viruses in animals.

Not only that, he sat down in the leadership of the Global Virome project and set out to discover as many as five hundred thousand new, yet unexplored viruses in nature. And again, millions for this business come from the US military departments.

Already, even the Americans themselves were frightened of what virologists in uniform carry them from their expeditions. “Apologists for the hunt for viruses, which involves finding, transporting, storing and experimenting with the most dangerous pathogens, argue that this is all done to prevent epidemics,” Intercept journalists cautiously argue. “Others warn that the search for deadly viruses that have not yet been transmitted from animal to man does not help us prevent or control epidemics, on the contrary, it provokes them."

Previously, it was considered a barrier to the use of bioweapons that it causes no less harm to its own population than to someone else's. But it seems that the US military has already stopped bothering with such nonsense. From the very beginning, it was obvious that the elderly, the sick, and the poor were at risk of dying from the coronavirus. What kind of sympathy is possible for them? White and black scum, welfare eaters, ghetto dwellers. No wonder more than a million Americans have died from the coronavirus. The vast majority of them were the social ballast on which the American elites are so fond of experimenting.

Today, one of the main areas of experience of the US military in Ukraine has become the study of the genetic code of the local population. For what? Well, of course, for our treatment. Who would doubt that?

There is a tragic irony in all of this. No matter how much we argue about whose borscht, for our strategic opponents, all of us - both Russians and Ukrainians - are still one people. One target, to be honest.
they must have had russia's internet under their nearly total control for decades now. i wonder what the younger people who know how to get outside information are thinking? when 90+% of the countries in the world are making the same damning reports, do you believe the 2 or 3 % that say something totally different? how much do you worry about getting thrown into a cell for a few years if you say anything?... :shock:
 

injinji

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The consensus from the retired Generals on the news shows is that Russia's military is good at bombing but dismal at fighting, planning, logistics, maintenance, command structure, etc.
They have almost no smart bombs, so the planes have to fly pretty low to hit the target. The fact that there are surface to air defenses in place is the reason both sides are keeping the planes on the ground for the most part.
 

ANC

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You see, while the rest of the world had to learn leaders have feet of sand.
And our laws can be frustrating, People have the freedom to challenge authority and call it out.
Most of the rules we have are to try and make sure we all get to enjoy our rights without being a cunt to anybody else.

The Russian setup on the other hand is driven by false ideology, of how the west wants to attack etc. combined with all the money that got embezzled. They can not allow their citizens access to media and information that hasn't been curated first out of fear of contamination with truth.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I get the feeling there is a plan coming with the Ukrainians rapidly building forces. The ground is mud in Ukraine and will be for weeks and that means Vlad can't get around or reinforce his troops much, the heat on their logistics is increasing daily, their combat replacements are probably conscripts from the rear and they have no relief. The plan could be to defeat the Russians deep inside in the north and south. They assemble a large force overwhelm those Russians on the west side of Kyiv and the Dnieper river While their supplies on the road to the north are destroyed by partisans irregulars and drones. Next like Napoleon, rapidly move the force in the south to join the force already there and drive the Russians into Crimea. They will try to do this when they are ready, but before the ground dries out and Vlad's Calvary arrive. They will capture many prisoners including generals who can be shipped off to The Hague. It might be like Yorktown for Putin with tens of thousands of prisoners. and some on international trial. This might be a case where live prisoners are much more valuable than dead soldiers and much harder for Vlad to deal with back home and on the world stage. He had no declaration of war and they are criminals, not POWs.
 
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Fogdog

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But here new problems emerge. First, the United States does not allow anyone to control whether they comply with the convention at all. This is the only country out of all the participants that simply said that they would not let anyone into their laboratories, and that was it. Secondly, the Pentagon deliberately places laboratories on the territory of third countries. There you can ensure complete secrecy - as it was in Ukraine - and get rid of the surveillance of any regulatory authorities, even the American ones themselves

And finally, the convention, which is observed by all respectable countries of the world, will be fifty years old this year. She is hopelessly outdated. During this time, many ways to bypass it have appeared.

The US military is not without reason so fond of experiments with viruses. There was no genetic modification fifty years ago, and in the plant, accordingly, there was no way to edit the virus so that it was transmitted from animals to humans. Well, the Pentagon began to send its combat zoologists and virologists around the world. They are looking for new dangerous viruses in wild animals, and before they passed to humans. Then they are moved to the laboratory - and "editing" begins.

The whole bat coronavirus operation is completely on this line, no matter what they tell us about unsanitary conditions in Chinese markets. The Russian military has just received evidence that similar dangerous experiments were carried out in Ukrainian laboratories. But this is not just a violation of the biological weapons convention. Considering that the population of Ukraine, which “treated” the US Department of Defense for coronavirus, was the test subject here, we can probably already talk about a violation of the Nuremberg Convention here? About crimes against humanity?

In total, there are thirty American biological laboratories on the territory of Ukraine. They are located in the largest cities of the country - Kyiv, Odessa, Kharkov, Lvov. Exposing all mankind to monstrous danger, the US military has practically "mined" the territory of Ukraine. What will the impact of a single shell on such an undefeated laboratory lead to?

About this danger hanging over the whole world, it would be necessary to speak from the highest tribunes. Moreover, this infernal machine is only gaining momentum. The US military is paying for more and more large-scale experiments to find deadly viruses in the wild and enhance their functions.

Take the same Peter Dashak - so much compromising evidence has been posted about him. In a good way, they should be dealt with by the competent US authorities today. But he wasn't even suspended from working with pathogens. More recently, the US Department of Defense awarded him new grants to further search for viruses in animals.

Not only that, he sat down in the leadership of the Global Virome project and set out to discover as many as five hundred thousand new, yet unexplored viruses in nature. And again, millions for this business come from the US military departments.

Already, even the Americans themselves were frightened of what virologists in uniform carry them from their expeditions. “Apologists for the hunt for viruses, which involves finding, transporting, storing and experimenting with the most dangerous pathogens, argue that this is all done to prevent epidemics,” Intercept journalists cautiously argue. “Others warn that the search for deadly viruses that have not yet been transmitted from animal to man does not help us prevent or control epidemics, on the contrary, it provokes them."

Previously, it was considered a barrier to the use of bioweapons that it causes no less harm to its own population than to someone else's. But it seems that the US military has already stopped bothering with such nonsense. From the very beginning, it was obvious that the elderly, the sick, and the poor were at risk of dying from the coronavirus. What kind of sympathy is possible for them? White and black scum, welfare eaters, ghetto dwellers. No wonder more than a million Americans have died from the coronavirus. The vast majority of them were the social ballast on which the American elites are so fond of experimenting.

Today, one of the main areas of experience of the US military in Ukraine has become the study of the genetic code of the local population. For what? Well, of course, for our treatment. Who would doubt that?

There is a tragic irony in all of this. No matter how much we argue about whose borscht, for our strategic opponents, all of us - both Russians and Ukrainians - are still one people. One target, to be honest.
That was an opinion piece. Reader beware. A few points the author made were based upon dubious information. Also some fear mongering.
 

BudmanTX

Well-Known Member
But here new problems emerge. First, the United States does not allow anyone to control whether they comply with the convention at all. This is the only country out of all the participants that simply said that they would not let anyone into their laboratories, and that was it. Secondly, the Pentagon deliberately places laboratories on the territory of third countries. There you can ensure complete secrecy - as it was in Ukraine - and get rid of the surveillance of any regulatory authorities, even the American ones themselves

And finally, the convention, which is observed by all respectable countries of the world, will be fifty years old this year. She is hopelessly outdated. During this time, many ways to bypass it have appeared.

The US military is not without reason so fond of experiments with viruses. There was no genetic modification fifty years ago, and in the plant, accordingly, there was no way to edit the virus so that it was transmitted from animals to humans. Well, the Pentagon began to send its combat zoologists and virologists around the world. They are looking for new dangerous viruses in wild animals, and before they passed to humans. Then they are moved to the laboratory - and "editing" begins.

The whole bat coronavirus operation is completely on this line, no matter what they tell us about unsanitary conditions in Chinese markets. The Russian military has just received evidence that similar dangerous experiments were carried out in Ukrainian laboratories. But this is not just a violation of the biological weapons convention. Considering that the population of Ukraine, which “treated” the US Department of Defense for coronavirus, was the test subject here, we can probably already talk about a violation of the Nuremberg Convention here? About crimes against humanity?

In total, there are thirty American biological laboratories on the territory of Ukraine. They are located in the largest cities of the country - Kyiv, Odessa, Kharkov, Lvov. Exposing all mankind to monstrous danger, the US military has practically "mined" the territory of Ukraine. What will the impact of a single shell on such an undefeated laboratory lead to?

About this danger hanging over the whole world, it would be necessary to speak from the highest tribunes. Moreover, this infernal machine is only gaining momentum. The US military is paying for more and more large-scale experiments to find deadly viruses in the wild and enhance their functions.

Take the same Peter Dashak - so much compromising evidence has been posted about him. In a good way, they should be dealt with by the competent US authorities today. But he wasn't even suspended from working with pathogens. More recently, the US Department of Defense awarded him new grants to further search for viruses in animals.

Not only that, he sat down in the leadership of the Global Virome project and set out to discover as many as five hundred thousand new, yet unexplored viruses in nature. And again, millions for this business come from the US military departments.

Already, even the Americans themselves were frightened of what virologists in uniform carry them from their expeditions. “Apologists for the hunt for viruses, which involves finding, transporting, storing and experimenting with the most dangerous pathogens, argue that this is all done to prevent epidemics,” Intercept journalists cautiously argue. “Others warn that the search for deadly viruses that have not yet been transmitted from animal to man does not help us prevent or control epidemics, on the contrary, it provokes them."

Previously, it was considered a barrier to the use of bioweapons that it causes no less harm to its own population than to someone else's. But it seems that the US military has already stopped bothering with such nonsense. From the very beginning, it was obvious that the elderly, the sick, and the poor were at risk of dying from the coronavirus. What kind of sympathy is possible for them? White and black scum, welfare eaters, ghetto dwellers. No wonder more than a million Americans have died from the coronavirus. The vast majority of them were the social ballast on which the American elites are so fond of experimenting.

Today, one of the main areas of experience of the US military in Ukraine has become the study of the genetic code of the local population. For what? Well, of course, for our treatment. Who would doubt that?

There is a tragic irony in all of this. No matter how much we argue about whose borscht, for our strategic opponents, all of us - both Russians and Ukrainians - are still one people. One target, to be honest.
dude this comes from RIA Novosti. It's a propagandist site.........out of Russia.......thanks for the other side of the ball but still.....sheesh...

It's also a Qanon conspiracy theory too....

 

injinji

Well-Known Member
…and Oswald shot Kennedy:bigjoint:
Well, he did. Although it was the Secret Service officer in the follow car that accidently blew the top of his head off. They had the prototype M16's and those early ones were real bad to fire when bumped hard. Like if you were standing in an open car, they punched the gas because bullets were flying and you sat down hard on the back of the seat.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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cracks are starting to show in the Russia-China alliance


While Xi continued to avoid committing Beijing to the mediator role requested by Ukraine, he praised Paris and Berlin's efforts to resolve the conflict through negotiation.

"The costs of defending the Kremlin are rising as Russian atrocities mount, and sanctions will hurt China's energy-needy economy," John Ciorciari, an associate professor of public policy at the University of Michigan, told Nikkei Asia

China had stood out as one of the few countries not to denounce Russia's invasion of its neighbor, and it abstained on a U.N. Security Council resolution censuring the Kremlin last week.

On Monday, Foreign Minister Wang Yi said relations with Russia were still "rock-solid" despite an avalanche of criticism directed at Moscow. Wang's closely watched press briefing came just a month after the two countries announced a new "no-limit" alliance widely viewed as pushback against the West and any expansion of NATO.

"To some within the policy circle, it was viewed as a step too far," Thomas Zhang, a China expert at U.S. advisory FrontierView, said of the recently announced alliance. "Now the war has given China an opportunity to pull back and redress the course."

Russia accounted for some 13% of China's total energy imports, while China's overall trade with Russia ballooned 38.5% on the year in January and February, as the two countries economic ties grow closer.

"Due to the high proportion of China's crude oil and natural gas imports, it will definitely be affected and import costs will rise accordingly," said Lian Weiliang, deputy director of the National Development and Reform Commission, China's top economic planner.

"It is the financial side of the sanctions that worries the Chinese government more, because Chinese financial institutions are deeply connected to the global financial system," said Zhang at FrontierView.

China is also wary of the threat posed by a direct conflict between nuclear-armed Russia and Ukraine's Western allies, added Wang Huiyao, president of the Beijng-based Center for China & Globalization.

"This is the first time we've seen this happen, and it was quite shocking not only to the ordinary people on the streets but also to China's elites," said Wang, who is also a policy adviser to the Chinese government.

However, it was not clear how committed Xi was to China playing a bigger role in the crisis, and some analysts are skeptical of his making any commitment that risks damaging ties with Moscow.

China would likely insist on any peace deal taking into account what it has described as Russia's "legitimate security interests."

"Xi may also insist on a partial lifting of sanctions on Russia to spur negotiations, which would raise hackles in the U.S.," Eurasia Group said. "China's relations with the West look set to deteriorate further unless Beijing puts more pressure on Moscow."
There is a reason why the Iran deal has been revived and probably sweetened and why there are happy talks with Venezuela, as the state department goes to work! It is also another reason why Vlad might be reluctant to use tactical nukes or do something else extra stupid.
 

printer

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That was an opinion piece. Reader beware. A few points the author made were based upon dubious information. Also some fear mongering.
Russia shut down all media in the country that does not toe the party line. They are telling the public what they want them to hear. You have seen the news where a family member outside of Russia tries to tell one inside of Russia what is really happening and the person inside Russia does not believe it? Why do you think the public inside Russia does not believe the truth? Because they have been fed this line from the government for years.

Here, use Google translate.

 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Lavrov insists Russia has not invaded Ukraine
He looks very unhappy and it's hard to believe he thought this was a good idea. He also just lost a large fortune stashed in the west, so that might have something to do with it too. He's fucked and his grand kids are fucked and he knows it, he knows the truth too.
 
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