This is true. Also part of why I don't like examining the "who started it" chain of events especially when they go back a hundred years. At some point, it just doesn't matter.
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This is true. Also part of why I don't like examining the "who started it" chain of events especially when they go back a hundred years. At some point, it just doesn't matter.
DIY-HP-LED
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He's not nuts, just evil and pissed, he is doing this to survive in the end, or so he thinks. Right now he is shocked, confused and pissed as the magnitude of his blunder becomes apparent to him. Don't do too much to excite him right away, play by the rules even if he doesn't. He needs time to cool down and think for a spell, his people don't get western media, but I'll bet Vlad does and so do his buddies, he speaks pretty good English and German and they are multi lingual too. This is his circle, the opinion of the people around him and important to him, those who support him. If his own people weren't telling him the truth, the western media soon will!And I sure hope sanity prevails and people in positions have the balls to say no if he orders any apocalyptic orders
Vlad blundered bigly, he didn't know himself or his enemy, had no plan B and invaded at the worst possible time at the beginning of mud season and even tanks are confined to the roads that are choked with his supplies and their wreckage. It ill be weeks before the ground dries out enough for him to apply combat force and meanwhile the Ukrainians are organizing, arming millions of men with surplus soviet weapons and training them too with NATO help, Tractor trailer convoys are delivering arms and supplies deep into eastern Ukraine by the hundreds of tons daily. By the time Vlad is ready to start Armageddon he will be flat broke and Russia will be coming apart at the seams. That is why uncle Sam is jumping in with both feet, the Ukrainians can win, all their troops will be combat troops, young women and older men will do logistics supplied by NATO.
This is an investment in the future for NATO, if Vlad manages to fight in Ukraine on any scale, it will bleed his army white, destroy most of it's equipment and really fuck Russia even more. Every man there will have a tale to tell back home and Ukrainian propaganda will be broadcast on their military radio channels, they only need captured radios and cellphones hooked up to play recordings or live stream information to the Russians along with popular music. The Russian troops are news starved and will listen, the old analog radios are in most of their equipment...
DIY-HP-LED
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I think the Ukrainians, if they aren't now, will be broadcasting news and propaganda into Belarus, so do their Baltic neighbors to the north. I image a lot of people in Belarus get western TV and news broadcasts, AM radio goes a long way and the transmitting power of both TV and radio can be made directional with most of the power going towards your adversary. This might be why Belarus is ripe for revolution and covert action, the Ukrainians don't need to do much, European media is doing it for them in most of Belarus, which is why Russian troops are occupying it and propping up a puppet.
One of Vlad's many dangers if he loses this war and Belarus, is not that it puts NATO or even the EU on his doorstep, it puts free western broadcasters, including TV into parts of Russia and rebellion could start there that spreads like wildfire.
One of Vlad's many dangers if he loses this war and Belarus, is not that it puts NATO or even the EU on his doorstep, it puts free western broadcasters, including TV into parts of Russia and rebellion could start there that spreads like wildfire.
DIY-HP-LED
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All the military experts are in agreement that he can't win and I figure he will be driven back in places around Kyiv and in the south and it won't end up a partisan war, except for where the Russians are and their lines had better be tighter than a frog's asshole, or arms will get into the people who live in their rear. By the time the ground dries out enough for serious action, Vlad will be broke.
I know the Ukrainians are fighting a people's war for national liberation and liberal democracy, with all it's flaws, freedoms and assholes. Liberal democracy is what we do and should be supporting. Even if they were all evil cunts, the enemy of my enemy is my friend and I will destroy them later, after they spend blood defeating my main enemy. It sucks to think that way, but sometimes it's required, not this time though.
Sativied
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Xenophobic whites moving mostly to xenophobic white countries. Will they repell each other like magnets with the same pole? Maybe not, Polish for example are not that different from Ukrainians. And in west europe, our babyboomers are dying and lazy millennials don’t feel like working in a welfare state. Just in NL 400k jobs open, 50k in healthcare, expected to tripple, for which we are desperately trying to find people. In an area in Spain in 2019 they needed 10k strawberry pluckers and managed to get only 600 while in the same area 9k is on unemployment. Lazy fuckers. Which many Ukranians are known to be not. That’s why Rotterdam is taking them in with open arms, huge shortage of workers in the port of Rotterdam.
Since Syria, there has been a lot of pressure to divide refugees and immigrants across EU members more fairly. Especially some of the countries to which Ukranians flee now have been slacking. Hungary built a 106miles ‘wall’ to keep muslim refugees out. In addition to millions of Ukranian refugees, food shortages will result in many more millions of refugees from Africa. By taking in Ukranians, the rest of the EU will go along sooner with them taking in less non-white refugees.
The not pretty dark picture is being painted in real time right now. Sure there will be incidents, some media will overblow it, but Julia is writing a fictional drama that is unlikely to become reality.
Roger A. Shrubber
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one way or another, it will end within a year...putin will either get lucky and kill zelensky and most of his staff with artillery, or they will fight him to a stand still, probably across the dneipir...if that happens, the Ukrains will turn it into a war of attrition, and drive the russians out. they don't have the men to suppress the population, and the men they do have will get picked off one by one till they're all gone.
PJ Diaz
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There are over 600 references on that Wikipedia page with links to their sources. Sure, Russia supported the revolt, similar to the way US supports civil wars in other countries.
Speaking of which, while it's not exactly a civic war, what's the deal in Venezuela? I thought the us considered Juan Guaido to be the legitimate president there, except that they are now negotiating with Maduro for oil reserves. I wonder how that's gonna work out. I wonder if Maduro is going to forget how the US tried to remove him and install their own puppet:
U.S. reaches out to Venezuela amid possible Russia oil embargo
The impetus for a risky outreach to Maduro took on added urgency following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, ensuing U.S. sanctions and a possible ban on Russian oil and gas.
There are over 600 references on that Wikipedia page with links to their sources. Sure, Russia supported the revolt, similar to the way US supports civil wars in other countries.
Speaking of which, while it's not exactly a civic war, what's the deal in Venezuela? I thought the us considered Juan Guaido to be the legitimate president there, except that they are now negotiating with Maduro for oil reserves. I wonder how that's gonna work out. I wonder if Maduro is going to forget how the US tried to remove him and install their own puppet:
U.S. reaches out to Venezuela amid possible Russia oil embargo
The impetus for a risky outreach to Maduro took on added urgency following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, ensuing U.S. sanctions and a possible ban on Russian oil and gas.www.nbcnews.com
That's the downside of creating dependencies, you set yourself up for a moral compromise down the road.
Roger A. Shrubber
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i wonder if there are now 8 ownerless super yachts sitting in cypress, bought with funds that should have been spent on the russian military.....
BudmanTX
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i wonder if there are now 8 ownerless super yachts sitting in cypress, bought with funds that should have been spent on the russian military.....
that's a very good question...lol
printer
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Kremlin says Russian economy in 'shock' after sanctions
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Kremlin says Russian economy in ‘shock’ after sanctions
The Kremlin on Thursday said Russia’s economy was experiencing a “shock,” after the U.S. and its allies imposed sanctions on the country.The Russian government said that efforts a…
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DIY-HP-LED
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Structured ambush': Video appears to show strike on Russian tanks
printer
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Sen. Ernst to Newsmax: Russia Acting by 'Playbook' With Aviation Threats
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Sen. Ernst to Newsmax: Russia Acting by 'Playbook' With Aviation Threats
Russia's threats to civilian aviation and public transportation are yet another act from the "playbook" President Vladimir Putin and his administration uses, Sen. Joni Ernst said Thursday.
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