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injinji

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American was stunned when they found out he had already used them all- mainly on the Kurds who America placed on its terrorist list- Ive never understood why, perhaps due to them not supporting Hussain? I didn't realize they sold them to him I thought they were given to him.
There were UN inspectors on the ground at the time. He destroyed most if not all of them with the world watching. We just chose not to see reality.
 

Fogdog

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There were UN inspectors on the ground at the time. He destroyed most if not all of them with the world watching. We just chose not to see reality.
"We" was not me. A lot of people in the US were listening. We as in me and others like me were. I never believed it. Not even when Powell made his presentation before the UN.

Later on, after the invasion and after the truth was confirmed on the ground that there were no stockpiles of WMD, I got into an argument/discussion on the subject with, who is now I'm sure, a permaTrumper. I pointed out that inspectors said they could find none before the war and did not find evidence of stockpiles after the war, she said "whether they find any or not, they were there".
 

hanimmal

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A lot of Americans were against the Iraq war (Bush 2's). But it really didn't matter because the Republicans were steam rolling anyone who stood against their agenda with the 'Anti-American' bullshit that in a post 9/11 world there was just no real response to.





The 'funded by George Soros' clip at the beginning is odd.


I couldn't find anything saying he did, but it looks like it was about this time he started to push back against the right wing propaganda circus. But I am calling bullshit on the Chicago protest against the war being some sort of false flag operation that Soros cooked up based on the opening credits of a youtube video.

 

CCGNZ

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A lot of Americans were against the Iraq war (Bush 2's). But it really didn't matter because the Republicans were steam rolling anyone who stood against their agenda with the 'Anti-American' bullshit that in a post 9/11 world there was just no real response to.





The 'funded by George Soros' clip at the beginning is odd.


I couldn't find anything saying he did, but it looks like it was about this time he started to push back against the right wing propaganda circus. But I am calling bullshit on the Chicago protest against the war being some sort of false flag operation that Soros cooked up based on the opening credits of a youtube video.
I remember the outpouring of good will towards the US as the towers were still smoking,even Vlad was taken aback I recall, and to juxtapose then to now is hard to fathom
 

CCGNZ

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If only Gore was president after 9/11. Talk about stolen elections.
The infamous hanging chads on ballots, I was pretty apolitical back then, I respected every President regardless of party,it's only recently that a certain guy came into office whose WHOLE act I just couldn't stomach, till he came along I actually felt all previous Pres. were at least noble in their intentions,agree or disagree,and felt the weight and responsibility of their position and tried to exude some dignity
 

CunningCanuk

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The infamous hanging chads on ballots, I was pretty apolitical back then, I respected every President regardless of party,it's only recently that a certain guy came into office whose WHOLE act I just couldn't stomach, till he came along I actually felt all previous Pres. were at least noble in their intentions,agree or disagree,and felt the weight and responsibility of their position and tried to exude some dignity
Remember in 2008 when we thought dubya was going to go down as the worst president in history?

Is your team going to make the playoffs? Looks like Marchand is going to get a long suspension this time.
 

CCGNZ

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Remember in 2008 when we thought dubya was going to go down as the worst president in history?

Is your team going to make the playoffs? Looks like Marchand is going to get a long suspension this time.
You know Bush 2.0 is very friendly w/Michelle Obama, and the Obama's were blown away with the graciousness of the Bush's when Obama visited the WHouse as is traditional as Pres. Elect, THAT is how politics should be conducted in the US, in retro Trump makes W look like Roosevelt, just can't seem to get into Hockey this yr., though the B's goalie situation is confounding,see ya Tuka, never had confidence in a must win game w/him bet. the pipes. I don't even know how Canada and USA fielded Olympic teams when it was decided no NHL players at the last minute.
 

CunningCanuk

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I don't even know how Canada and USA fielded Olympic teams when it was decided no NHL players at the last minute.
I’m watching Canada play Germany at the moment (3-0 for Canada end of 1st period). Most of the players are from the European leagues with a few exceptional juniors and college players.
 

CCGNZ

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I’m watching Canada play Germany at the moment (3-0 for Canada end of 1st period). Most of the players are from the European leagues with a few exceptional juniors and college players.
Yeah, shouldn't be a prob. for Canada,when it comes to rounding up hockey talent,you guy's are DEEEEEEEEEP,not so much USA ,probably won't medal.
 

CCGNZ

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I’m watching Canada play Germany at the moment (3-0 for Canada end of 1st period). Most of the players are from the European leagues with a few exceptional juniors and college players.
Yeah,it shouldn't be a problem for Canada,when it comes to rounding up talent you guys are DEEEEEEEEEEP,USA not so much,we probably won't medal
 

CCGNZ

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Thanks for the optimism my man,Sweden, Finland,Russia, and Canada(of course), maybe a bronze at best
Feel bad for the Schiffrin chick,she's beautiful and been super dominant, to miss gates in slalom and giant slalom in the first few gates,DAMN,got to be hard on her psyche,hope she medals in one of her last 3 events, wouldn't want such a sweet thing to come home w/choke label
 

Lucky Luke

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There were UN inspectors on the ground at the time. He destroyed most if not all of them with the world watching. We just chose not to see reality.
Was none there. He had used it all. UN inspectors were on the ground before the war. Sure they got mucked around a bit by Hussain but they never found any evidence of WMD. America would of known there were none and just used it as the excuse to invade. Thats why the countries who chose to support Americas invasion were called the Coalition of the willing. They all did well out of it to with American trade deals etc. Destabilised a whole region and created terrorist groups that are causing mayhem today. I don't think anything was learnt though.

Q. Even if Iraq had WMD what business is of America (he got them off America to start with)? Lots of countries (including America) have WMD and are not getting invaded.
 
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hanimmal

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Was none there. He had used it all. UN inspectors were on the ground before the war. Sure they got mucked around a bit by Hussain but they never found any evidence of WMD. America would of known there were none and just used it as the excuse to invade. Thats why the countries who chose to support Americas invasion were called the Coalition of the willing. They all did well out of it to with American trade deals etc. Destabilised a whole region and created terrorist groups that are causing mayhem today. I don't think anything was learnt though.

Q. Even if Iraq had WMD what business is of America (he got them off America to start with)? Lots of countries (including America) have WMD and are not getting invaded.
Not every other nation was led by a dictator that tried to kill W's daddy and in the general vicinity of a gang of dick heads that murdered thousands of Americans on 9/11.

Im not sure how 'stable' the region was prior to us going in though, I think that is some wishful thinking.
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BudmanTX

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If your wondering what happen to the WMD's in Iraq, all were sent to Syria, via truck and air cargo....the ones that were missed some were used as roadside bombs......makes ya wonder who taught them how to make Chlorine Bombs.....hmmm
 

injinji

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If your wondering what happen to the WMD's in Iraq, all were sent to Syria, via truck and air cargo....the ones that were missed some were used as roadside bombs......makes ya wonder who taught them how to make Chlorine Bombs.....hmmm
Some were burned in big piles. The sad thing was the first squads who came through told the folks who came behind them that there was nerve agents among the munitions. But those guys left and didn't tell the ones replacing them. American troops were exposed. This was the cause of Gulf War Syndrome.
 
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