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PUTIN ‘RUNNING OUT OF MISSILES’ AMID CLAIMS QUARTER OF RUSSIAN ARMY NOW LOST
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DIY-HP-LED
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Till they are gone from Ukraine I figure, Zelenskiy's offer was for talks, a return to pre feb 24th borders and a cease fire, not peace. He can't give away Ukrainian territory especially now that blood has been shed for it, if they are winning and getting stronger, not even Zelenskiy could sell giving up Crimea to the voters, much less the east. That's Vlad`s problem with a cease fire, the Ukrainians will grow even stronger and he will have to give up the south. For Vlad, it will be the last Russian's blood he can shed over this shit.
US and NATO policy is to destroy Vlad's military capability and ability to project power beyond his borders. Using Ukrainians to do it with western arms and support, liberating Ukraine is the means to achieve this. It will most likely get rid of Vlad and be a catalyst for political change in Belarus and perhaps another war, as Vlad or his successor tries to hang on to the remains the evil empire. If you want to change the culture and politics of Russia, a liberal democratic Ukraine and Belarus is the best way to achieve it. It's really why the war started in the first place, Vlad knew a prosperous liberal democracy and haven for his domestic foes next door would be fatal to him and his vision for Russia. These are some of the factors I feel are at play in the current situation.
injinji
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Keep in mind they handed out thousands of Russian passports in the break away regions. You know the spooks got their hands on a bunch of them. I'm guessing every fire was set by Ukrainians, or their kin folk.
Roger A. Shrubber
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so what if we have been coordinating for the Ukrainians? is russia going to invade Wisconsin in retaliation? seems about as intelligent a response as any other they've made since before this whole fucking fiasco started.Senior Russian lawmaker says US directly involved in Ukraine fighting
Russia’s most senior lawmaker on Saturday accused Washington of coordinating military operations in Ukraine, which he said amounted to direct US involvement in military action against Russia.
“Washington is essentially coordinating and developing military operations, thereby directly participating in military actions against our country,” Vyacheslav Volodin wrote on his Telegram channel.
Washington and European members of the transatlantic NATO alliance have supplied Kyiv with heavy weapons to help it resist a Russian offensive that has resulted in the occupation of parts of eastern and southern Ukraine but failed to take Kyiv.
However, the United States and its NATO allies have repeatedly said they will not take part in fighting themselves, in order to avoid becoming parties to the conflict.
US officials have said the United States has provided intelligence to Ukraine to help counter the Russian assault, but have denied that this intelligence includes precise targeting data.
Volodin, speaker of the lower house of parliament, the Duma, is a prominent advocate of what Moscow calls its “special operation” in Ukraine to degrade its southern neighbor’s military capabilities and root out what it calls fascist elements holding sway over the government and military.
Ukraine and the West say the fascist allegation is baseless, and that Russia has carried out an unprovoked act of aggression.
The conflict has killed thousands in Ukraine, and more than five million people have fled the country.
Volodin said foreign advisers had been working in Ukraine since what he called the “coup d’etat,” in an apparent reference to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s democratic election in 2019.
Senior Russian lawmaker says US directly involved in Ukraine fighting
Russia’s most senior lawmaker on Saturday accused Washington of coordinating military operations in Ukraine, which he said amounted to direct USenglish.alarabiya.net
Maybe the republicans should try for a “coup d’etat,” by democratic election. Seems to be more successful.
i guess it's ok for a foreign power to wage a cyber war pretty much openly against us, and to try to influence out elections, but it's not ok for that power to aid your enemy, their ally? if hypocrisy were a lethal weapon, russia would already rule the world...
DIY-HP-LED
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It does seem ridiculous to most that Russia invades a sovereign country and whines when people try to kill them for it. It is none of Russia's business what we or America does in regards to Ukraine, we would be in our rights to even send troops. The UN should be fighting this war against Russia and if they were expelled from the security council it would be.
I see Joe's wife is in Ukraine today, it would be a serious mistake to fire a missile anywhere near her IMHO, Joe might make it personal then, I would.
printer
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But, but, the Russians are the good guys.
Don't forget this is Russian propiganda aimed at Russians.
DIY-HP-LED
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Here are two disillusioned Canadian fighters in Ukraine, they support the war, but the volunteer effort is a mess, disorganized and under supplied. It might be best if the Ukrainians fought their own war with more of our help and supplies, as far as I can see they have no shortage of people to put in uniform. I think medical personnel would be the best fit for foreigners in Ukraine, or come with your own equipment and logistics.
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Russia-Ukraine War l Sniper Wali Returns Home After 'Disappointing' Outing Against Putin's Forces
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Russia-Ukraine War l Sniper Wali Returns Home After 'Disappointing' Outing Against Putin's Forces
printer
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Ukraine still needs Ukrainian men after the war. Think WWI trench warfare where both sides do not advance but just grind out lives. How much money will the West pour into the fight if it drags on for another year? Oh right, you think it will be over in weeks. Say you are wrong and it continues on. How many lives will be shed? How many billions more?
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Putin congratulated the leaders of the LPR and DPR on Victory Day
Russian President Vladimir Putin sent congratulatory messages on the occasion of the 77th anniversary of the Victory to the leaders of the DPR, LPR, post-Soviet countries and Central Asia, the Kremlin press service reported.
The appeals are addressed to "leaders and citizens" of Azerbaijan , Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Donetsk People's Republic, Lugansk People's Republic , as well as "the peoples of Georgiaand Ukraine".
He noted that on this day they pay tribute to the soldiers and home front workers who crushed Nazism at the cost of innumerable victims and hardships.
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Named “first in line” in case of mobilization in Russia
Mobilization in the country can only be declared by a presidential decree, and its prerequisite is a foreign invasion or a declaration of war, reminds ura.news.
As military experts explained to the source, men under 30 fall under the first line of mobilization. Then the second and third “waves” follow, in which citizens are called up, respectively, from 30 to 45 years old and then from 45 to 50. The fourth, possible, line concerns men under 60 years old. Earlier, we recall, the head of European diplomacy announced the content of a new package of sanctions against Russia .
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Rogozin told how many minutes Russia can destroy NATO countries
The head of Roskosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, said that NATO countries would be destroyed by Russia in a nuclear war in half an hour, but urged her not to allow it, he announced this on his Telegram channel .
"In a nuclear war, NATO countries will be destroyed by us in half an hour. But we must not allow it, since the consequences of an exchange of nuclear strikes will affect the state of our Earth," he wrote.
"NATO is waging war against us. It has not declared it, but it doesn't change anything. Now it's obvious to everyone. The Ukrainian national battalions and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are consumables, cannon fodder for NATO, they are just operators trained by NATO instructors who press the levers and buttons of NATO weapons," Rogozin added.
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Russian President Vladimir Putin sent congratulatory messages on the occasion of the 77th anniversary of the Victory to the leaders of the DPR, LPR, post-Soviet countries and Central Asia, the Kremlin press service reported.
The appeals are addressed to "leaders and citizens" of Azerbaijan , Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Donetsk People's Republic, Lugansk People's Republic , as well as "the peoples of Georgiaand Ukraine".
He noted that on this day they pay tribute to the soldiers and home front workers who crushed Nazism at the cost of innumerable victims and hardships.
Путин поздравил лидеров ЛНР и ДНР с Днем Победы
Президент России Владимир Путин направил поздравительные послания по случаю 77-й годовщины Победы лидерам ДНР, ЛНР, стран постсоветского пространства и Средней... РИА Новости, 08.05.2022
Named “first in line” in case of mobilization in Russia
Mobilization in the country can only be declared by a presidential decree, and its prerequisite is a foreign invasion or a declaration of war, reminds ura.news.
As military experts explained to the source, men under 30 fall under the first line of mobilization. Then the second and third “waves” follow, in which citizens are called up, respectively, from 30 to 45 years old and then from 45 to 50. The fourth, possible, line concerns men under 60 years old. Earlier, we recall, the head of European diplomacy announced the content of a new package of sanctions against Russia .
Названы «первые в очереди» в случае мобилизации в России — СМИ2
Мобилизация в стране может быть объявлена исключительно только указом президента, а обязательным ее условием является иностранное вторжение или объявление войны, напоминает ura.news. Как пояснили источнику военные эксперты, под первую очередь мобилизации подпадают мужчины до 30 лет. Затем...
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Rogozin told how many minutes Russia can destroy NATO countries
The head of Roskosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, said that NATO countries would be destroyed by Russia in a nuclear war in half an hour, but urged her not to allow it, he announced this on his Telegram channel .
"In a nuclear war, NATO countries will be destroyed by us in half an hour. But we must not allow it, since the consequences of an exchange of nuclear strikes will affect the state of our Earth," he wrote.
"NATO is waging war against us. It has not declared it, but it doesn't change anything. Now it's obvious to everyone. The Ukrainian national battalions and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are consumables, cannon fodder for NATO, they are just operators trained by NATO instructors who press the levers and buttons of NATO weapons," Rogozin added.
Рогозин рассказал, за сколько минут Россия может уничтожить страны НАТО
Глава "Роскосмоса" Дмитрий Рогозин заявил, что страны НАТО будут уничтожены Россией в ядерной войне за полчаса, но призвал ее не допускать, об этом он сообщил в РИА Новости, 08.05.2022
DIY-HP-LED
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We will see fairly soon, I believe and from the raw data and analysis I've seen, I don't think Russia can do it, or last in a war of attrition. How many Ukrainians die is up to them, as is when this war ends, it's not up to Vlad, unless he withdraws, but in terms of troops killed for this kind of war, when compared to past horrors, it is a minuscule fraction on the Ukrainian side at least. I estimate in terms of troops killed the Ukrainians have lost less than the Russians at this point. The British ministry of defense says the Russians have lost 25% of their combat effectiveness already and when most units hit 30% ineffectiveness they are done, but that can vary with morale and circumstance.
I guess we will know more about the course of this war tomorrow with Vlad's big speech on Red Square. War or peace, as opposed to war and peace, let's hope that this war isn't as long as the book.
DIY-HP-LED
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Update from Ukraine | Snake Island Attacked Again | Helicopter is Down
How many lives and dollars if Russia isn't stopped?
cannabineer
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Vladolf, contrite? Hardly.
DIY-HP-LED
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The best long term security for Ukraine and stated US policy (NATO too) is the destruction of Russia's army and their ability to wage war and project power beyond their borders. We will see how it goes, but so far, so good.
DIY-HP-LED
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FIFYPutin's acontritecontrary little cunt.
Excuse my French.
MOD's, please do not ban me.
DIY-HP-LED
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Is the Russian army too understaffed to fight? | Ben Hodges
DIY-HP-LED
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The Russians are expending an awful lot of ordinance in Ukraine, however they appear to have large stock piles of shells at least. With the arrival of western long range mobile artillery, counter battery radars and drones, they might not have many guns to fire them from, in Ukraine at least. A top priority for these weapons will be Russian artillery and tanks, eliminate the artillery and they control the battlefield. The Ukrainians also don't need to expend nearly as much munitions as the Russians, since they fire at military targets and don't just flatten towns with thousands of rounds. There are also reports that Russia is running low on missiles and is almost out of some types. In addition the Ukrainians are still hammering away at their logistics, fuel and transport, by all reports they are fighting smarter and more effectively than the Russians.
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Ukraine War: What's the situation on the ground in eastern Ukraine?
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Ukraine War: What's the situation on the ground in eastern Ukraine?