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BudmanTX

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that would be AWESOME, russia's LNG field goes up in flames, taking the pipeline with it...all that equipment, all those rubles, all those fucking French and German assholes cut off from giving putin more money to finance the war they seem reluctant to help with... :lol: :clap:
if i were a sabatour, that's where would go to cause havoc...hit the gas fields.....boom..no gas....no money
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Put it in the right thread, I am pretty sure you would not mind.


Which is kind of what I have come up with. But right now the Russians are mostly using regular dumb artillery shells to the tune of 60,000 a day

Russia is hammering Ukraine with up to 60,000 artillery shells and rockets every day
U.S. and western artillerymen go through extensive training so that they can put unguided rounds on target with their first shots, while the Russians lack a professional artillery corps, Samarov told Task & Purpose. Going back to the Soviet Union, the Russians have viewed artillery as a mass area weapon.

“This sort of saturation of grid squares kilometer by kilometer is very consistent with their doctrinal approach on the use of artillery,” Samarov said. “They very much view artillery as a weapon of mass rather than a weapon of precision. It works particularly well when you’ve got large numbers of personnel that are either conscripted or not particularly well trained.”



I doubt they would be running out of them any time soon, or with the equipment to fire them. I have read that their smart munitions may be down to 60%, this does effect them with trying to get pinpoint hits but the Russians have no problem levelling a neighbourhood to take out a target. I do not see the Russians being beaten on the battlefield due to the lack of stuff to shoot at the Ukrainians, more the opposite.
if the Ukrainians are getting adequate training, they CAN take those guns out with the new weapon systems they are getting, and never be in range of them, themselves. they sort of have to do that, in order to have a real chance. but even with the range, they would still be in range of russian missiles...of which the russian's have a dwindling supply, but they aren't out of yet. their situation seems to call for constant hit and run strikes. the new systems are supposed to be capable of that, with computers that give quick firing solutions, that can be computed while on the move with data supplied by drones and spotters, finalized when they stop to fire, and then scramble to a new position before they can be hit with return fire. someone, probably diy, posted a youtube vid of a crew doing just that with the new caesar self propelled guns they just got, i think.
i'm not trying to be overly optimistic, just trying to armchair general...but they still have a good chance, it's just going to take them a little longer than i was hoping, which is unfortunate for them.
i just don't understand why we're trickling arms to them...give them what they ask for, train them as quickly as possible, and let them do the job we're too fucking cowardly to do ourselves.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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if i were a sabatour, that's where would go to cause havoc...hit the gas fields.....boom..no gas....no money
Considering the Ukrainian resources and the unique nature of the situation, if Russian gas supplies are cut, then they will come sniveling to Ukraine, guns in hand with their wallets open in the other. However if the American plan is to deceive and destroy Vlad's army and thus their military power by slowly sucking him in, it is logical they would go along. In the current situation I see little alternative for them and there has been complete silence on the topic of Ukrainian oil and gas thus far. Now that they know Ukraine cannot be defeated and could win back it's territory while breaking the Russian army, they will go along and try not to get nuked doing it. I think in the end this is very much another oil war and Europe will let the third world starve to gain energy security, at least some of them would.
 
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BudmanTX

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that could be a possibility.......let the russian military establishment get sucked in and draw out this war...the more the more they get sucked in.....

i'm also seeing a lot of russian soldiers quit, saying we've have had enough of this.....

you know last night i had a funny thought......food trucks.....if you want food ,lay down your arms and we'll feed ya...this with the notion they haven't eating for a while..........
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Ukrainian counterattacks exploit Russia’s focus but are stymied by lack of weapons

Over the past several months Russia’s focus on capturing Sievierodonetsk has forced it to pull assets and attention from other positions of attack, giving Ukraine opportunities for tactical counterattacks.

Successful Ukrainian offensives have been observed in Kharkiv Oblast as of early May and in Kherson Oblast and the city of Kryvyi Rih over the past several weeks.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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that could be a possibility.......let the russian military establishment get sucked in and draw out this war...the more the more they get sucked in.....

i'm also seeing a lot of russian soldiers quit, saying we've have had enough of this.....

you know last night i had a funny thought......food trucks.....if you want food ,lay down your arms and we'll feed ya...this with the notion they haven't eating for a while..........
i think after the little old ladies poisoning them with cookies, they might be a little hesitant to take food from eager Ukrainians...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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That's just America, the lend lease stuff is outside the $40 billion in direct aid. There are 39 other allies and some of them have been very generous with similar compatible weapons systems and other kinds of aid. A lot more is due to arrive over the next couple of months, this is what we know about. Also a switchblade system has a controller and ten drones, so that's 7000 drones, mostly 300s that have been around for awhile. The same might apply to those Phoenix Ghost drones.
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printer

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Have not been here for a while.
Ukrainian intelligence announced the receipt of technical documentation of the Crimean bridge
The Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine reported that it had received the technical documentation of the Crimean bridge. Earlier today, Major General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) Dmitry Marchenko said that the Crimean bridge is a “way to pull up reserves”, so the object can become the number one target for defeat by the Ukrainian military.

“Detailed technical documentation of the Crimean bridge has been received. In particular, we are talking about the technical documentation ''Construction of a transport passage through the Kerch Strait''. Among other things, it has detailed information about the terrain, road surface, bridge piers, anti-landslide structures, entrances and exits and the entire infrastructure of the complex, ”the Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine reports in the Telegram channel.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not be able to hit the Crimean bridge. The minister is convinced that Ukraine's plans to destroy the bridge will "completely collapse."


I know how to stop Russia selling its natural gas.

Canada is negotiating with Germany on equipment for Nord Stream
Canadian authorities are "actively discussing" with Germany the situation with the equipment for the Nord Stream gas pipeline, a spokesman for the Canadian Ministry of Natural Resources said. The turbines for the gas pipeline are supplied by Siemens and are being repaired in Canada. Because of the sanctions imposed by the Canadian authorities, Siemens is not yet able to pick up the turbines.

"The Government of Canada is actively discussing with Germany the turbines in question and we are working to reach a solution," an unnamed spokesman for Canada's Minister of Natural Resources said in a statement (quoted by Reuters ). What measures can be taken to resolve the situation is not specified.

This week, Gazprom has already stopped two turbines at Nord Stream. Because of this, gas pipeline delivery dropped by 100 million cubic meters. m per day. Siemens Energy told Kommersant that, for technical reasons, the repair of used aviation gas turbines can only be made in Montreal. Canada regards them as dual-use goods and refuses to return them to Russia due to sanctions against Gazprom. The Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the EU Vladimir Chizhov believes that Nord Stream can be stopped. The head of Gazprom, Alexei Miller , said that there are no ways to solve the problem yet.

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine revealed a plan to seize the Crimea
Ukraine plans to seize Crimea with US-supplied weapons. This was stated by the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Oleksiy Reznikov.

“We are going to liberate all territories, everything, including Crimea,” Reznikov said in an interview with CNN. “Crimea is a strategic goal for Ukraine… But we will move step by step,” he added. In his opinion, weapons supplied by the United States will help Ukraine implement its plans.

According to the head of the military department, the first step to seize Crimea will be to stabilize the situation on the ground to prevent further losses against the Russian army. In the second stage, the Ukrainian authorities intend to push the Russian troops back to their positions before the start of the special operation on February 24. And only after that, the Ukrainian side is ready to discuss with the leaders of the allied states the possibility of transferring Crimea under the control of Ukraine.

Macron: Western countries decided to stop supplying weapons to Kyiv
Western countries have agreed among themselves not to supply Ukraine with certain types of weapons, including attack aircraft and tanks. This was announced by French President Emmanuel Macron.

“You are talking about an unofficial agreement, but this is almost the official position of NATO partners that we are helping Ukraine defend itself, but we are not going to war with Russia. Therefore, we have agreed not to supply certain weapons, such as attack aircraft or tanks," Macron said, according to the Ukrinform agency (blocked in the Russian Federation). He added that the Ukrainian authorities are aware of this agreement.

Earlier, The New York Times published an article stating that Western weapons supplied to Ukraine sometimes do more harm than good. It is also said that concern is caused by the damage that is caused to the West in connection with the supply of weapons. Thus, in particular, the economies of European countries are suffering, in some states high inflation has appeared and energy prices have jumped, and citizens of such states have begun to show more dissatisfaction.

Lavrov: Russia did not invade Ukraine, but announced the NVO
Russia did not invade Ukraine, but announced a special operation, since the Russian authorities had no choice. This was stated by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in an interview with BBC Russia

“We did not invade Ukraine. They announced a special military operation when we had no way left to explain to the West that it is engaged in criminal activities, drawing Ukraine into NATO, cherishing, patronizing and nurturing the neo-Nazi regime, whose president V.A. Zelensky said back in September 2021 (did you not inform your viewers about this?) that if someone feels like a Russian person in Ukraine, let him leave for Russia, ”Lavrov said. The text of his statement is published on the agency's website.

According to him, the Ukrainian regime is attacking civilians and cities with Western weapons, “just like they did in 2014, […] when they bombed the center of Luhansk from aircraft, when they burned 50 people in Odessa,” he recalled. He also spoke about the case when a CNN correspondent reported to Zelensky that the Azov Regiment (recognized as an extremist organization and banned in Russia) was included in the lists of extremist organizations in some countries of the world, the minister recalled. “Zelensky shrugged his shoulders and said that they have many such battalions and regiments, and they are what they are,” Lavrov concluded.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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So let's say the Ukrainians have 6000 switchblade 300's and used a thousand of them training operators and taking out Russians while doing it. So when offensive operations begin in earnest and they have 5000 killer drones left and can use a couple hundred of the switchblade 600's for the armor per attack. So they pick a place they want to break through the Russian lines and defensive layers, a tough dug in nut to crack, but an important target. First they soften it up with commercial drones dropping small bombs day and night. Next they pound the defensive positions with accurate artillery fire. Then the tanks and infantry move in and the Russians left come out of their bunkers into the trenches, as the switchblade 300's swarm them until your troops are at the edges of their positions. Switchblades can be waved off and sent to an alternate target, so they can do close work with the infantry too and take out machine guns and anti tank weapons. The artillery in the rear supporting them and neighboring BTGs and C&C headquarters would be destroyed before the attack began using MLRS, tube artillery or drones.

I'm sure military commanders are thinking of how to integrate these new weapons and technology into creative ways to attack dug in defensive positions and trench lines while taking a minimum of casualties. Small commercial drones can wear them down while they get around to attacking them. When the try to kill the drone operator baiting them with artillery strikes, the counter battery radars take out the guns in the rear doing the shooting, in preparation for the main attack. Air power and armor made trenches and defensive positions obsolete, Javelins and manpads made them somewhat viable, if you maneuver out from under the artillery and the onslaught of tanks and artillery shells. If you put drones and highly accurate artillery strikes into the picture, you bring back tactical air in a novel way, both to target the positions for strikes and to drop small bombs or grenades on them. Finally they can be used to swarm defensive trenches, when they emerge from their bunkers or reposition, with suicide drones, right up until your troops are on top of them.
 
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printer

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Russia Pounds Ukraine With ‘World’s Most Powerful’ 2S7M Malka Artillery Guns As War Enters Critical Stage
As Russia’s Ukraine offensive completes a month, the war has not only remained inconclusive but also deadlier with each passing day. In the face of stiff resistance from Ukrainian troops and civilians, the Russian Army has resorted to the use of artillery shelling on key cities, which according to reports, include civilian areas.
As both sides make extensive use of artillery to suppress the enemy position, the most lethal gun in either side’s arsenal is the Soviet-era 203 mm self-propelled 2S7 howitzer, which is purportedly also the most powerful gun in the world.

The 2S7 howitzer combines a 203 mm 2A44 gun with a tracked chassis featuring all-welded steel armor. The design came from the Kirov Factory in the 1960s and it entered service with the Soviet army in 1976.


More to the list of what the Russians have on the page.
 

printer

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So let's say the Ukrainians have 6000 switchblade 300's and used a thousand of them training operators and taking out Russians while doing it. So when offensive operations begin in earnest and they have 5000 killer drones left and can use a couple hundred of the switchblade 600's for the armor per attack. So they pick a place they want to break through the Russian lines and defensive layers, a tough dug in nut to crack, but an important target. First they soften it up with commercial drones dropping small bombs day and night. Next they pound the defensive positions with accurate artillery fire. Then the tanks and infantry move in and the Russians left come out of their bunkers into the trenches, as the switchblade 300's swarm them until your troops are at the edges of their positions. Switchblades can be waved off and sent to an alternate target, so they can do close work with the infantry too and take out machine guns and anti tank weapons. The artillery in the rear supporting them and neighboring BTGs and C&C headquarters would be destroyed before the attack began using MLRS, tube artillery or drones.

I'm sure military commanders are thinking of how to integrate these new weapons and technology into creative ways to attack dug in defensive positions and trench lines while taking a minimum of casualties. Small commercial drones can wear them down while they get around to attacking them. When the try to kill the drone operator baiting them with artillery strikes, the counter battery radars take out the guns in the rear doing the shooting, in preparation for the main attack. Air power and armor made trenches and defensive positions obsolete, Javelins and manpads made them somewhat viable, if you maneuver out from under the artillery and the onslaught of tanks and artillery shells. If you put drones and highly accurate artillery strikes into the picture, you bring back tactical air in a novel way, both to target the positions for strikes and to drop small bombs or grenades on them. Finally they can be used to swarm defensive trenches, when they emerge from their bunkers or reposition, with suicide drones, right up until your troops are on top of them.
Fuck, winning the war is so easy. Wonder why they don't call up our armchair generals?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Fuck, winning the war is so easy. Wonder why they don't call up our armchair generals?
I'm sure the young bucks at west point and other military academies are writing up papers on this shit now. New technology can sometimes transform how wars are fought, like new battery technology and robust green new grids can transform automobiles. I dunno if the Ukrainians are using drones like I described in a hypothetical future attack, but they have 7000 switchblades to experiment with.

It's like that with the war news, we have opinions and educated guesses about the strategy and resources each side has and their effectiveness. Lloyd Austin did say they are giving them what they need for the job at hand. If we can help in a clandestine way for the Ukrainians to destroy the bridge at Kerch, I think something would be arranged for instance. It would sure piss off Vlad, that was his pet project, to project power over the Black sea and onto the doorstep of the Balkans, including Moldovia.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Russia Pounds Ukraine With ‘World’s Most Powerful’ 2S7M Malka Artillery Guns As War Enters Critical Stage
As Russia’s Ukraine offensive completes a month, the war has not only remained inconclusive but also deadlier with each passing day. In the face of stiff resistance from Ukrainian troops and civilians, the Russian Army has resorted to the use of artillery shelling on key cities, which according to reports, include civilian areas.
As both sides make extensive use of artillery to suppress the enemy position, the most lethal gun in either side’s arsenal is the Soviet-era 203 mm self-propelled 2S7 howitzer, which is purportedly also the most powerful gun in the world.

The 2S7 howitzer combines a 203 mm 2A44 gun with a tracked chassis featuring all-welded steel armor. The design came from the Kirov Factory in the 1960s and it entered service with the Soviet army in 1976.

It was initially known as the ‘Pion’ (Russia for peony, a kind of flower), but following the upgrades to the chassis, engine, ammunition loading system, and fire control in 1983 the gun was renamed as 2S7M ‘Malka’.

The first combat deployment of the 2S7 was during the Soviet-Afghan War and later Russian forces used it in the first and second Chechen wars. The Georgian army also fielded a battery of six 2S7 guns during its conflict with Russia in 2008, but those were all captured by Russian troops who destroyed five of them retaining one.

Some of the main munitions fired include high-explosive fragmentation and rocket-assisted projectiles. The former weighs 110 kg and contains 17.8 kg of projectiles while the latter projectile weighs 103 kg and contains 13.8 kg of explosives.

Without any type of rocket assistance, the 2A44 gun can hit targets at a range of 37.5 km (roughly 23 miles) while rocket-assisted projectiles can reach a range of 47.5 km (roughly 29 miles).

The Russians eventually put a lot of their roughly 300 2S7s in storage. The Ukrainians who inherited 100 or so 2S7s from the Soviet Union also did the same.

Ukraine was compelled to re-activate its 2S7s in 2014 after its forces were hammered by artillery fire from Russian separatists in the Donbass region. Reports suggest that the army took out at least 13 2S7s from the storage and sent them to the Shepetivka Repair Plant in Rivne for overhaul.

Meanwhile, the Russian forces also appear to have fielded their own 2S7s in Russia’s Belgorod region possibly operated by the 45th Artillery Brigade near the city of Kharkiv in eastern Ukraine as well as in Crimea

Today those 2S7 self-propelled howitzers with their gaping, 203-millimeter-diameter barrels by far are the most powerful guns in Ukrainian service. They can shoot as far as 30 miles, outdistancing most other tube artillery in and around Donbas.

But there’s a problem for Ukraine’s gunners as a huge Russian force—100,000 troops and 1,200 tanks—assembles right across the Russia-Ukraine border. The Russian army has its own 2S7s. They’re more modern than Ukraine’s own 2S7s are, and they’re plugged into a faster fire-control system.

The main types of ammunition include high-explosive, high-explosive/rocket-assisted (30-mile range), concrete-piercing, and tactical nuclear rounds.

The ammunition handling system can provide a rate of fire of two rounds per minute, increased to 2.5 per minute in the 2S7M.

2S19 Msta-S
Developed during the 1980s, the Msta was intended to replace the Soviets’ earlier 152mm 2S3 and 2S5 self-propelled artillery pieces and retained the same caliber of ammunition. The new system was fielded just before the demise of the Soviet Union, with each battery normally having six guns. A total of three batteries would normally be found in each regiment.

By 2020, around 600 examples of the self-propelled Msta-S were thought to have been completed, these using a chassis derived from that of main battle tanks, including the suspension and running gear of the T-80 and the diesel power pack from the T-72.

The vehicle consists of a driver’s compartment at the front, a turret in the center, and a power pack at the rear. There are five crew members. Defensive armament consists of a 12.7 mm heavy machine gun on the roof.

The main gun is the 2A64 that fires a high-explosive/fragmentation round to a distance of 15 miles. Other ammunition includes a base-bleed type that extends the range to 18 miles, a sub-munitions round with high-explosive anti-tank (HEAT) bomblets, an electronic warfare jamming round, smoke, and the Krasnopol laser-guided projectile. The latter is guided onto the target in the terminal phase using a tripod-mounted laser designator. The rate of fire is between seven and eight rounds per minute. In total, 50 rounds of ammunition are carried, and the gun can be reloaded while firing, using a conveyor system at the back of the turret.


More to the list of what the Russians have on the page.
they have to have the men to operate those vehicles...they'll do little good with no one to drive them, load them, fire them, maintain them. the more men russia loses, the less of those weapons are of any use. i'm not suggesting that the Ukrainians won't make a horrible sacrifice, but i think they fight smarter, give ground when they need to, and lose less men and equipment over all than the russians do, while training willing recruits and getting more weapons from their allies. will that be enough? i think so, if they get enough equipment, fast enough.
 
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