DIY-HP-LED
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HIMARS on Russian Radar - how does it get through?
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HIMARS on Russian Radar - how does it get through?
Roger A. Shrubber
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so they have 6-12 months to rain down hell on the russians, before they can possibly update their software? a lot of damage can be done in 6 months...Ukraine has humiliated the russian army in less than 5.
let's get them as much HIMAR ammo as we can in that time frame, maximize the amount of damage they can do
DIY-HP-LED
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I figure like Trump, timing is everything, Trump must be tried, but at the best time for the maximum amount of damage to the republicans, while staying inside the lanes. Same with Russia, defeat them too soon and Germany will be back buying oil from them the next week and trying to get sanctions against them dropped, in a few years they would come roaring back. Nordstream can be started back up and the gas would flow, we want to break that dependency and the Russian economy, the longer the war the more damage is done and the longer their recovery.
America could bust Trump yesterday for more crimes than you could count, Likewise Russia in Ukraine could be defeated fairly quickly, if we had granted the Ukrainian public wish list. However I figure the smart ones in Ukraine also see the wisdom of this approach and it will permanently remove Russia as a military threat and I believe give their European energy markets to Ukraine. In America, if you can win the midterms, you can take measures to protect democracy, level the electoral playing field and improve people's lives, then at least you could have a chance in 2024.
As far as I'm concerned the war for liberal democracy currently has two fronts, one in America and the other in Ukraine.
DIY-HP-LED
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There is a crises in America too, can they rise to the challenge as the Ukrainians have done? Different war, different kind of war, but the idea is the same.
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How Russia’s war in Ukraine is birthing a new global order | Ian Bremmer
How Russia’s war in Ukraine is birthing a new global order | Ian Bremmer
441,458 views Jul 13, 2022 “This is much deeper than just ‘let’s figure out how we can get both sides to get along.’”
When Ukraine declared itself an independent state during the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union, most Ukrainians celebrated the historic move. To Vladimir Putin, however, the formal separation of Ukraine from Russia represented the “greatest geopolitical catastrophe” of the 20th century.
Today, the two nations are locked in war. The inability to end the fighting in the foreseeable future will largely be driven by their shared history, about which Ukraine and Russia have starkly different views.
Another factor working against a swift end to the war is the inability of modern institutions to effectively prevent and handle crises like the Russia-Ukraine war, according to the political scientist and author Ian Bremmer. Still, amid this “geopolitical recession” lie opportunities to reinvigorate waning institutions and create new ones, hopefully rebalancing the global order for the better.
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How Russia’s war in Ukraine is birthing a new global order | Ian Bremmer
How Russia’s war in Ukraine is birthing a new global order | Ian Bremmer
441,458 views Jul 13, 2022 “This is much deeper than just ‘let’s figure out how we can get both sides to get along.’”
When Ukraine declared itself an independent state during the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union, most Ukrainians celebrated the historic move. To Vladimir Putin, however, the formal separation of Ukraine from Russia represented the “greatest geopolitical catastrophe” of the 20th century.
Today, the two nations are locked in war. The inability to end the fighting in the foreseeable future will largely be driven by their shared history, about which Ukraine and Russia have starkly different views.
Another factor working against a swift end to the war is the inability of modern institutions to effectively prevent and handle crises like the Russia-Ukraine war, according to the political scientist and author Ian Bremmer. Still, amid this “geopolitical recession” lie opportunities to reinvigorate waning institutions and create new ones, hopefully rebalancing the global order for the better.
DIY-HP-LED
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BACK TO THE STONE AGE - RUSSIAN MILITARY IS USING GRENADES IN PLASTIC CUPS IN UKRAINE NOW || 2022
Offmymeds
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You mean he was even uglier than he is now? Damn.
DIY-HP-LED
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DIY-HP-LED
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This is why Joe is kissing and making up with MBS, cheaper gas for everybody, not just Americans. They want to stay on the right side of Uncle Sam since Iran is on Russia's side, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Opening up Venezuela would increase supply further.
However in America it appears the issue is refining capacity and with the expected coming of EVs, nobody is gonna build any new ones either. However when most people who live in the burbs and commute to the city, have an EV as a second car, demand will begin to drop off, as batteries and charging infrastructure improves over the next decade. Not many companies will be selling ICE cars in a few years, people will have little choice, here or especially in Europe, where they would be very practical. It all adds up to lower demand for gasoline and some of it can be refined into diesel or jet fuel instead of cracked into gasoline, lowering prices there too.
Update from Ukraine | US and Saudi will end Ruzzia
However in America it appears the issue is refining capacity and with the expected coming of EVs, nobody is gonna build any new ones either. However when most people who live in the burbs and commute to the city, have an EV as a second car, demand will begin to drop off, as batteries and charging infrastructure improves over the next decade. Not many companies will be selling ICE cars in a few years, people will have little choice, here or especially in Europe, where they would be very practical. It all adds up to lower demand for gasoline and some of it can be refined into diesel or jet fuel instead of cracked into gasoline, lowering prices there too.
Update from Ukraine | US and Saudi will end Ruzzia
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DIY-HP-LED
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printer
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Saudi is raking in the bucks now. It will take a sweet deal for them to flood the market. I wonder how practical electric will be with Canadian long distances in winter. Lot of the battery capacity will go into keeping the passengers warm and the windows clear. Frost shields coming back into style? A funny story, many years ago a guy I worked with went to the US and a kid asked what the things on the windows were. He said they were to stop bullets. The kid thought that made sense.
DIY-HP-LED
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From what I've seen the current technology won't do, however the lithium sulfur and solid state could cope. We plug our cars in during winter any way in much of the country. I think however there might be a market for Volkswagen or propane type heaters designed to be retrofitted or customized in EV cars sold in northern climates, they might heat the battery pack too. I think in NA EVs will be used most as second cars, for the daily commute to the city to get groceries etc, it can be topped up at home in most cases. Charging times will be substantially lower as well. There are so many emerging battery technologies that it's hard to keep track and many will find different niches I imagine. There is a lot of money being thrown at this and all the automakers are in for a reason, the battery technology is beginning to arrive. Lithium Sulfur can give 5 times more energy density than current tech at least and much more in theory, recent breakthroughs make this possible on a large scale.
This guy does well presented and researched videos
Why This Accidental Battery Breakthrough Matters
Roger A. Shrubber
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Ukraine has been hurting them, but the russians still have piles of cheap shit to throw, it ain't over yet...
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/warning-sirens-sound-ukraines-capital-russia-steps-up-bombardment-2022-07-16/
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/warning-sirens-sound-ukraines-capital-russia-steps-up-bombardment-2022-07-16/
DIY-HP-LED
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Here is a Jetson 1, it has a flight time of 20 minutes or so using current batteries and travels at motorcycle speeds. Let just say in 5 or 6 years there is an even more efficient version or you could retofit your existing one with new lithium sulfur batteries with 6X the capacity? You would have a flying motorcycle that could travel for 2 hours at 100Km/hr or a 200 km range. What is the range of a typical motor cycle on a tank of gas? This thing can go cross country and in a straight line too. A 200 Km range with something like this and a 10 minute charge time at any car charger might be something fun to own! Electric aviation is one of those things Lithium Sulphur batteries could be used for, smaller scale aviation is most practical.
printer
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The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine allowed a strike from the HIMARS MLRS in the Crimea
The Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) can strike from American missiles in the Crimea . This was stated by the representative of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Vadym Skibitsky , RIA Novosti reports .
He allowed the Ukrainian troops to use the American multiple launch rocket system (MLRS) HIMARS (High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems) and M270 to strike Russian targets. Speaking on the air of a single telethon, Skibitsky pointed to the active use of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.
Earlier, on July 16, the Telegram channel “Military Correspondents of the Russian Spring”, citing its own sources, reported that the HIMARS MLRS appeared at the disposal of the Russian army. In turn, the speaker of the State Duma of Russia, Vyacheslav Volodin , said that the missiles supplied by the West to Kiev could, according to the boomerang principle, hit the US and the EU . He noted that in the context of the supply of weapons to Kyiv and the desire of the United States to "continue the war to the last Ukrainian", Europe has become a hostage to the situation, to which "aid to Ukraine" can return in the first place.
On July 15, the head of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry, Oleksiy Reznikov , stated that Western weapons received by Kiev would not be used to strike targets in Russia. According to him, in a letter to the head of the Pentagon, he promised to use HIMARS missiles for multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) only to deter Russian troops, as well as to “de-occupy” the territories of Ukraine.
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Ukraine will receive two NASAMS SAM batteries
In the near future, Ukraine will receive two NASAMS SAM batteries. This was stated by the representative of the command of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Yuri Ignat.
According to Ignat, we are talking about two batteries with launchers, target detection systems and maintenance of anti-aircraft missile systems. Each NASAMS battery includes three fire platoons armed with 54 missiles. All 54 rockets can be fired within 12 seconds.
NASAMS is a Norwegian-made mobile anti-aircraft missile system. It is designed to work on targets at low and medium altitudes. The anti-aircraft missile system was developed by the Norwegian company Kongsberg Defense & Aerospace in cooperation with the American defense corporation Raytheon.
Currently, the NASAMS air defense system is in service with the armies of Norway, the United States, the Netherlands, Spain, Lithuania, and Finland. Ukraine should receive its anti-aircraft missile systems from the United States, which has recently played a key role in supplying the Ukrainian army with weapons.
Of course, the appearance of new air defense systems in Ukraine will increase the combat power of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. However, it is hardly to be expected that this will lead to any cardinal change. Moreover, the air defense systems still need to be brought to the place of use, and there is no guarantee that they will not be sold by the same Ukrainian military personnel who are currently selling Western weapons on the darknet with might and main.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) can strike from American missiles in the Crimea . This was stated by the representative of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Vadym Skibitsky , RIA Novosti reports .
He allowed the Ukrainian troops to use the American multiple launch rocket system (MLRS) HIMARS (High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems) and M270 to strike Russian targets. Speaking on the air of a single telethon, Skibitsky pointed to the active use of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.
Earlier, on July 16, the Telegram channel “Military Correspondents of the Russian Spring”, citing its own sources, reported that the HIMARS MLRS appeared at the disposal of the Russian army. In turn, the speaker of the State Duma of Russia, Vyacheslav Volodin , said that the missiles supplied by the West to Kiev could, according to the boomerang principle, hit the US and the EU . He noted that in the context of the supply of weapons to Kyiv and the desire of the United States to "continue the war to the last Ukrainian", Europe has become a hostage to the situation, to which "aid to Ukraine" can return in the first place.
On July 15, the head of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry, Oleksiy Reznikov , stated that Western weapons received by Kiev would not be used to strike targets in Russia. According to him, in a letter to the head of the Pentagon, he promised to use HIMARS missiles for multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) only to deter Russian troops, as well as to “de-occupy” the territories of Ukraine.
В Минобороны Украины допустили удар из РСЗО HIMARS по Крыму
Вооруженные силы Украины (ВСУ) могут нанести удар из американских ракет по Крыму. Об этом заявил представитель Главного управления разведки Минобороны Украины Вадим Скибицкий. Он допустил использование украинскими войсками для удара по российским объектам РСЗО HIMARS и М270.
Ukraine will receive two NASAMS SAM batteries
In the near future, Ukraine will receive two NASAMS SAM batteries. This was stated by the representative of the command of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Yuri Ignat.
According to Ignat, we are talking about two batteries with launchers, target detection systems and maintenance of anti-aircraft missile systems. Each NASAMS battery includes three fire platoons armed with 54 missiles. All 54 rockets can be fired within 12 seconds.
NASAMS is a Norwegian-made mobile anti-aircraft missile system. It is designed to work on targets at low and medium altitudes. The anti-aircraft missile system was developed by the Norwegian company Kongsberg Defense & Aerospace in cooperation with the American defense corporation Raytheon.
Currently, the NASAMS air defense system is in service with the armies of Norway, the United States, the Netherlands, Spain, Lithuania, and Finland. Ukraine should receive its anti-aircraft missile systems from the United States, which has recently played a key role in supplying the Ukrainian army with weapons.
Of course, the appearance of new air defense systems in Ukraine will increase the combat power of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. However, it is hardly to be expected that this will lead to any cardinal change. Moreover, the air defense systems still need to be brought to the place of use, and there is no guarantee that they will not be sold by the same Ukrainian military personnel who are currently selling Western weapons on the darknet with might and main.
Roger A. Shrubber
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well it's about fucking time, they been promising us flying cars since the 30s...
Dr.Amber Trichome
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Yes.and then they gave us LSD in the 60’s.