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Bagginski

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From one of my go-to sources: welcome to Thursday in Ukraine
(The top article is oldest; second is FIFTEEN minutes old as I post this (sorry, my bad math))

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Ukraine update: A huge day as Ukraine advances in every area

On Tuesday, Ukraine advanced on every front. There were Ukrainian counteroffensives in Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk, and in two different areas of Kharkiv oblast. The number of towns that were either thrown into dispute or fully liberated by Ukraine...
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Ukraine update: Ukraine races toward Kupiansk—Russia's logistical hub

Things are moving quickly in Ukraine, so you guys get a bonus update. Even better, it’s all great news! My Sunday update covered the first big moves of Ukraine’s multi-front counteroffensive, which I saw as the long-awaited culmination of Russia’s war...
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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Bagginski said:
From one of my go-to sources: welcome to Thursday in Ukraine
(The top article is oldest; second is 45 minutes old as I post this)

www.dailykos.com

Ukraine update: A huge day as Ukraine advances in every area

On Tuesday, Ukraine advanced on every front. There were Ukrainian counteroffensives in Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk, and in two different areas of Kharkiv oblast. The number of towns that were either thrown into dispute or fully liberated by Ukraine...
www.dailykos.com

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Ukraine update: Ukraine races toward Kupiansk—Russia's logistical hub

Things are moving quickly in Ukraine, so you guys get a bonus update. Even better, it’s all great news! My Sunday update covered the first big moves of Ukraine’s multi-front counteroffensive, which I saw as the long-awaited culmination of Russia’s war...
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I was wondering if their thrust in the east was driving towards Kupiansk, the whole Russian front in the east is threatened by this move and they have their best troops trapped in Kherson and shitty troops left in the east. Ukraine was making a lot of noises about Kherson and drawing Russians into the trap and they will have the Russians running from one end of the country to the other going the long way around while they have short internal lines of communication. They have excellent generalship and lots of expert advice and intelligence from allies.
 
Bagginski

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DIY-HP-LED said:
I was wondering if their thrust in the east was driving towards Kupiansk, the whole Russian front in the east is threatened by this move and they have their best troops trapped in Kherson and shitty troops left in the east. Ukraine was making a lot of noises about Kherson and drawing Russians into the trap and they will have the Russians running from one end of the country to the other going the long way around while they have short internal lines of communication. They have excellent generalship and lots of expert advice and intelligence from allies.
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And let it be said: Zelenskyy is there to win. After what seems like a lifetime of the Ogre in Expensive Suits, Zelenskyy provides a refreshing example of what conservative Americans used to respect and admire and LOOK FOR in a president. IMO, the president of Ukraine IS a REAL American in the very best sense of the term. He just didn’t come (from) here to do it.
 
Bagginski

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DIY-HP-LED said:
War is Hell

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Good question re: what hit them. I heard three shots - not explosions. I saw a lot of troops down, out, and trying to help, but three shots only - and not that loud - not like artillery, either outgoing or incoming. Tank gun, was my first thought but again, no explosion.

Then I remember reading / viewing a report on the first confirmed target of a HIMARS.

NO blast or major impact damage anywhere…but EVERYTHING was full of holes: windows, doors, walls, cars, people. The ammo was described as metal balls maybe an inch across, special alloys, different sizes of kinetic projectiles, carried in a sheath that ’fires’ them adding increased propulsion on top of inertia. The courtyard that was the ‘zone of impact’ was blown to shit in a very convincing non-Hollywood way.

From only the three reports, even with the video, it’s impossible to get a sense of which way the attack came came, much less what happened next, but with no visible damage to ANYTHING but the downed soldiers, I’m thinking some shotgun style multi-projectile weapon, 20-50m spread, perhaps delivered from above a la HIMARS. From the general lay of things, three like that laid down on the Russian end of the bridge & there’d be few able-bodied soldiers to hold the bridge. In fact, I read the other day about Ukraine capturing that pontoon bridge, but apparently missed the details of how it happened.
 
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Bagginski said:
Good question re: what hit them. I heard three shots - not explosions. I saw a lot of troops down, out, and trying to help, but three shots only - and not that loud - not like artillery, either outgoing or incoming. Tank gun, was my first thought but again, no explosion.

Then I remember reading / viewing a report on the first confirmed target of a HIMARS.

NO blast or major impact damage anywhere…but EVERYTHING was full of holes: windows, doors, walls, cars, people. The ammo was described as metal balls maybe an inch across, special alloys, different sizes of kinetic projectiles, carried in a sheath that ’fires’ them adding increased propulsion on top of inertia. The courtyard that was the ‘zone of impact’ was blown to shit in a very convincing non-Hollywood way.

From only the three reports, even with the video, it’s impossible to get a sense of which way the attack came came, much less what happened next, but with no visible damage to ANYTHING but the downed soldiers, I’m thinking some shotgun style multi-projectile weapon, 20-50m spread, perhaps delivered from above a la HIMARS. From the general lay of things, three like that laid down on the Russian end of the bridge & there’d be few able-bodied soldiers to hold the bridge. In fact, I read the other day about Ukraine capturing that pontoon bridge, but apparently missed the details of how it happened.
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JamieThePainter

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After years of enjoying the privilege of working with both Americans and Ukrainians I'd have to say here that Zelenskyy is showing considerably more Ukrainian traits than US ones. No offense at all meant to my American cousins, but there's a grit behind Ukrainians that I just don't see from many other Nations. This is likely from their country being under true threat since 1991.

I remember even back in the early 2000s when I'd returned to college after my time in the military and there were a few Ukrainians in some of my classes. If you ever wanted a fight (that you would lose lol ) just call one of them Russian. :lol:

Good times though, good lads.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Bagginski said:
Good question re: what hit them. I heard three shots - not explosions. I saw a lot of troops down, out, and trying to help, but three shots only - and not that loud - not like artillery, either outgoing or incoming. Tank gun, was my first thought but again, no explosion.

Then I remember reading / viewing a report on the first confirmed target of a HIMARS.

NO blast or major impact damage anywhere…but EVERYTHING was full of holes: windows, doors, walls, cars, people. The ammo was described as metal balls maybe an inch across, special alloys, different sizes of kinetic projectiles, carried in a sheath that ’fires’ them adding increased propulsion on top of inertia. The courtyard that was the ‘zone of impact’ was blown to shit in a very convincing non-Hollywood way.

From only the three reports, even with the video, it’s impossible to get a sense of which way the attack came came, much less what happened next, but with no visible damage to ANYTHING but the downed soldiers, I’m thinking some shotgun style multi-projectile weapon, 20-50m spread, perhaps delivered from above a la HIMARS. From the general lay of things, three like that laid down on the Russian end of the bridge & there’d be few able-bodied soldiers to hold the bridge. In fact, I read the other day about Ukraine capturing that pontoon bridge, but apparently missed the details of how it happened.
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Proximity fused artillery will do that, bursting above the target to kill personnel. They might not want to damage the ferry, just wait for more troops to use it and kill them instead, drones make it possible.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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Geolocation of Russia's Failed Dnipro River Crossing
13,940 views Sep 8, 2022 Russian vehicles attempting to cross the Dnipro River on a pontoon were hit hard by artillery. Here is the geolocation and maps.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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I figured Belarus would be the next domino to fall and where the remnants of Vlad's army will be finished off. Once Ukraine destroys the bulk of the Russian army and pins them in the south behind the Dnieper, or even traps them in Crimea and drives them back in the east, other trouble for Vlad could start up. Belarus is ripe for revolution or a coup, but is in effect occupied, mostly by internal Russian security forces. Perhaps some of those internal security forces might have to be redeployed deep inside Russia to protect vital rail bridges in the middle of nowhere from being blown up? Belarusian railway workers were already sabotaging Russian rail transport, so rail lines from Russia would be the first targets in the event of trouble.

Apparently there are a lot of Belarussian men fighting for Ukraine and gaining useful experience, they seem very well equipped and I figure Poland is backing them. Once they declare a new government in Minsk, Poland and Ukraine will immediately recognize it and will have military support and arms ready to go. Russian internal security forces are no match for soldiers or those armed with modern weapons, they arrest people and put down riots, they don't fight pitched battles.


Belarusian Women Train As Soldiers In Poland, Amid Plan To 'Liberate' Their Country
18,743 views Sep 8, 2022 Around a dozen Belarusian women have started military training in Poland, organized by former members of the Belarusian security forces who oppose authoritarian ruler Alyaksandr Lukashenka and now aim to liberate their country. Three women spoke to RFE/RL during training about their motives.
 
Unclebaldrick

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DIY-HP-LED said:
I figured Belarus would be the next domino to fall and where the remnants of Vlad's army will be finished off. Once Ukraine destroys the bulk of the Russian army and pins them in the south behind the Dnieper, or even traps them in Crimea and drives them back in the east, other trouble for Vlad could start up. Belarus is ripe for revolution or a coup, but is in effect occupied, mostly by internal Russian security forces. Perhaps some of those internal security forces might have to be redeployed deep inside Russia to protect vital rail bridges in the middle of nowhere from being blown up? Belarusian railway workers were already sabotaging Russian rail transport, so rail lines from Russia would be the first targets in the event of trouble.

Apparently there are a lot of Belarussian men fighting for Ukraine and gaining useful experience, they seem very well equipped and I figure Poland is backing them. Once they declare a new government in Minsk, Poland and Ukraine will immediately recognize it and will have military support and arms ready to go. Russian internal security forces are no match for soldiers or those armed with modern weapons, they arrest people and put down riots, they don't fight pitched battles.


Belarusian Women Train As Soldiers In Poland, Amid Plan To 'Liberate' Their Country
18,743 views Sep 8, 2022 Around a dozen Belarusian women have started military training in Poland, organized by former members of the Belarusian security forces who oppose authoritarian ruler Alyaksandr Lukashenka and now aim to liberate their country. Three women spoke to RFE/RL during training about their motives.
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Nah. Moldova probably. And if Trump were still in power, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia. NATO would not have outlasted Trump's 5th year.

A totally subservient, but notionally free, Belarus would give the illusion that Russia isn't gobbling up former republics to the righties and the misguided lefties that believe Tusli Gabbard.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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Unclebaldrick said:
Nah. Moldova probably. And if Trump were still in power, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia. NATO would not have outlasted Trump's 5th year.

A totally subservient, but notionally free, Belarus would give the illusion that Russia isn't gobbling up former republics to the righties and the misguided lefties that believe Tusli Gabbard.
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Looks like the original plan didn't work out and plan B sucked big time! Vlad stuck his neck out and Joe is gonna strangle him slowly while bleeding him white. This war opened up a whole new world of geopolitical possibilities, including the eventual dissolution of the Russian federation and Vlad's demise. America hasn't had such a good bet in a very long time, no nation building required here, just more guns and ammo please. Every irreplaceable Russian tank and piece of equipment the Ukrainians destroy is one less we need to worry about, it's an investment, not an expense.
 
Bagginski

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Morning analysis of last night’s events, w/ a refresher on how to sift thru conflicting info:

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Ukraine update: Balakliya and Shevchenkove liberated on the incredible drive to Kupyansk

On Thursday, Secretary of State Anthony Blinken arrived in Kyiv for an unannounced visit with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Blinken is reportedly there to share more good news, in the form of a new $2 billion package of assistance that...
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Bagginski said:
Morning analysis of last night’s events, w/ a refresher on how to sift thru conflicting info:

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Ukraine update: Balakliya and Shevchenkove liberated on the incredible drive to Kupyansk

On Thursday, Secretary of State Anthony Blinken arrived in Kyiv for an unannounced visit with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Blinken is reportedly there to share more good news, in the form of a new $2 billion package of assistance that...
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Good reporting on the current situation, Vlad should be freaking out, they are chopping the Russians up on several fronts, isolating them and will either capture or destroy their major logistics hub for the east. If they mop up the Russians on the wrong side of the Dnieper near Kherson, they can put in territorials and move their other forces on to the east. With the Russians driven back in the east with large forces there cut off from supplies from the north, they are screwed! After that the Ukrainians can head south for Mariupol, cutting the Russians in half in the south, threatening the Kerch bridge and the Russians at nuclear that power station.

They made a strategic breakthrough and it appears the Russian army is collapsing in places and could be cut off and rolled up quickly over vast thinly held hostile territory. The Ukrainians have vast territorial or militia forces who can hold liberated territory from weakened Russians, while the regular army does the advancing and maneuvering.
 
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