Vote Ron Paul (libertarian) even if he runs as a republican again. He has the best fiscal and social policies of anyone I know of currently. I know NoDrama agrees. And the best part is the elites in both parties don't like him cause he doesn't conform to party lines and can't be bought out.
So you're recommending as a method of helping him save his social security that he votes for someone who if elected will get rid of social security entirely? That makes perfect sense.
Social Security is the biggest Ponzi scheme in history... It needs to be eliminated, it is simply re-distribution of wealth.
Yeah, we should just make seniors live in card board boxes. F-k them. They are all a bunch of socialist/marxist/fascists.
My 72 year old disabled father is on Social Security and Medicare. Of course we should not cut THEIR social security.
What we need to do is immediately institute means testing. Lets say anyone reporting over 100,000 in income not receive social security checks.
We can phase it out over time, it didnt exist when the country was founded.
I agree with this part.
Neither did tanks and stealth bombers. Lets eliminate them. That'll save a lot of money.
RP is not for eliminating social security but for instituting an opt out program where younger people who've been told all along they'll never collect SS anyway, can opt out of the system and start an IRA. Anyone under 45 who wouldn't opt out is crazy cause SS is a ponzi scheme.
I am fully for cutting back the military, having all the troops come home, creating a smaller, better trained and better equiped fighting force designed for the new realitys of the world. We could save hundreds of billions. But just like I dont advocate the immediate elimination of social security, I dont advocate the immediate elimination of all of our military hardware in lieu of flower necklaces...
Imagine if we took all the money we spent invading Iraq and invested it in our tech/com/energy infrastructure. We might actually be able to compete with China if we had done that.
And this kills social security entirely and immediately.
RP is for eliminating social security, he's just not for calling it eliminating social security because that would be very unpopular.
And what happens to the seniors who opted out of social security when they get scammed out of their life savings by some greedy wall st banker?
Yeah, we'll have seniors living in card board boxes under freeway overpasses. I'll pass on Ron Paul's fortune cookie wisdom.
The military industrial complex is just welfare for the rich. They build things we don't need and in some cases things the military doesn't even want and spend hundreds of billions per year doing it. I'll take the flower necklaces.
Imagine if we took all the money we spent invading Iraq and invested it in our tech/com/energy infrastructure. We might actually be able to compete with China if we had done that.
You know something? you PAY INTO THE SYSTEM, thats where your retirement money was supposed to come from. Interest earned on funds you had saved for 45 years, it was just a mandatory savings program is ALL IT EVER WAS. Why couldn't people just put some money into a safe investment and plan for their OWN future instead of letting daddy government do it for us? Your idea just enforces my understanding that you do not want to be saddled with any kind of responsibility for yourself, and those kind of people who depend on others for most everything are just not conducive to living the Libertarian way of life. No, they are content being the fatted calf.
No, it was a trust fund where you paid into the system.
Then somewhere along the way the government treated it as a giant cookie jar to grab funds from. Now it is a cookie jar filled with 3 trillion dollars in IOU's the government still has on the ASSET side of the books. That is one of the big reasons the deficit skyrocketed. Instead of stealing from the cookie jar which was now empty the government has to start paying those IOU's.
Once they started doing that it became a ponzi scheme. Supposedly you are sending money to them to hold but instead they are spending it on someone else to pay for their benefits that were already stolen.
And because people are living longer the average payout of SS is something like 5-10 times what is paid in. Now, if the government was actually doing what they promised and using that money as an investment they might be getting 2-3 times the return back to offset that huge difference. But hey, they are the government and due to that deficit spending are just making the problem that much worse.
In addition the government is fostering the mentality that at 65 you are home free. No need to save for retirement, the government is gonna take care of it all from then on. Combine that with all the baby boomers just entering retirement and the burden shifting from like 10 people paying for 1 persons retirement to 2 people paying for 1 persons retirement and it becomes completely impractical.
But all of our politicians are cowards and they are going to hand out cake until there is nothing left but debt and then they will throw up their hands and blame the other side while our economy is finally destroyed by those lazy greedy corrupt bastards that neither create anything nor improve anything...
Social security is broken and going to run out of money. I've sunk a good chunk in and would be fine getting nothing if I didn't have to put anymore in.
And this kills social security entirely and immediately.
RP is for eliminating social security, he's just not for calling it eliminating social security because that would be very unpopular.
And what happens to the seniors who opted out of social security when they get scammed out of their life savings by some greedy wall st banker?
Yeah, we'll have seniors living in card board boxes under freeway overpasses. I'll pass on Ron Paul's fortune cookie wisdom.
And a little joke... Obamacare would ensure seniors don't live as long.