What Is The Best Consistency for Making BHO?

turbocivic6776 said:

Knowledge has changed but potency hasnt and if we have buds with a bunch of trichs now this trait didnt just come out of techniques thats genetics all you need to do is have an experienced grower. We may have better techniques for yield but i dont believe that there is more potent weed today then there was 30 years ago.

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and unless you were there, you would know that you can't make good hashish with strains that contain no trichs. please explain to me why the good hashish that has been made for practically 1000's of years in certain regions in the world were these genetics are coming from...just because they dont have fancy technology and you cant see the trichromes doesnt mean it ain't great herb. i don't need to educate anyone that has that closed of a mind. my point here has been made and established. and we are way off topic. had i really wanted to debate this, i would have started another thread. no sense in kicking a dead horse.

oHsiN666 said:

and unless you were there, you would know that you can't make good hashish with strains that contain no trichs. please explain to me why the good hashish that has been made for practically 1000's of years in certain regions in the world were these genetics are coming from...just because they dont have fancy technology and you cant see the trichromes doesnt mean it ain't great herb. i don't need to educate anyone that has that closed of a mind. my point here has been made and established. and we are way off topic. had i really wanted to debate this, i would have started another thread. no sense in kicking a dead horse.

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I agree with you but i wasnt there 30 years ago

turbocivic6776 said:

Knowledge has changed but potency hasnt and if we have buds with a bunch of trichs now this trait didnt just come out of techniques thats genetics all you need to do is have an experienced grower. We may have better techniques for yield but i dont believe that there is more potent weed today then there was 30 years ago.

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oHsiN666 said:

im not arguing with kids... and i dont have the time to type pout mass posts just to make my point. i know what i know, and if you don't know it, then educate yourself. read a book. travel. buy weed in more then just your home town. expand your horizon son.

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You know what you know...? Your missing the point. Good hasish has been made for thousands of years, you can make good hasish with almost any decent yeiliding strain. But you're not understanding is that the GENETICS have changed over the past 30 years. From years and years of cross breading...like I said INDOORS, we have been able to create an IDEAL environemnt for marijuana to produce at its highest level.

".just because they dont have fancy technology and you cant see the trichromes doesnt mean it ain't great herb" Right....but herb that still has the trichome glands intact, that has been dried and cured properly is going to better than any buds where you can't see the trichs.. I don't see how you don't understand the whole evolution thing. We've been growing marijuana and picking the strongest phenos over the years...so after 30 years of doing that...obviously we are going to have superior strains than 30 years back. I am not being to the close minded one here my friend....it seems as if you can't even consider what I have to say...which is sad.

I dont see greater bud coming from indoor v.s. outdoor. If anything i would think you would get better stuff from outdoors i mean you have the sun for light and the plant is out where it was created and grown for thousands of years thats where plants grow naturally then you add good soil nutes and proper grow techniques and say in your area the humidity stays at a decent level and the temp stay in proper ranges i dont see anything indoor being better with yield or taste. idk maybe i am wrong but if i could grow outdoors and had i lived in a better area for doing so i would much rather be doing that. I just see indoors as being easier to control just a higher success rate not better bud.

turbocivic6776 said:

I dont see greater bud coming from indoor v.s. outdoor. If anything i would think you would get better stuff from outdoors i mean you have the sun for light and the plant is out where it was created and grown for thousands of years thats where plants grow naturally then you add good soil nutes and proper grow techniques and say in your area the humidity stays at a decent level and the temp stay in proper ranges i dont see anything indoor being better with yield or taste. idk maybe i am wrong but if i could grow outdoors and had i lived in a better area for doing so i would much rather be doing that. I just see indoors as being easier to control just a higher success rate not better bud.

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Not everyone is in a PERFECT climate to grow marijuana...even if someone was...weather is out of our control. For you to say that indoor doesn't create better bud...just baffles me. When you are indoors, you can control, temperature, humidity, co2, air flow etc....when you have all of these dialed in perfectly, the marijuana grown will be of higher quality.

Now don't get me wrong, you can get some REALLY dank stuff outdoors, in fact the sun is like a 2000w light over 1sq foot. But indoors because you can control everything, you finish with a more resinous product.

hey guys, seriously. i agree with both your points. however you wont be changing my mind or teaching me anything new or any new outlook. plus, this was mainly a HASH/CONCENTRATE discussion and it is totally blown off course. if one of you 2 really want to spread the knowledge in which you speak of, please...it is time for a new thread. and the argument of indoors versus outdoors is purely silly to me. the best weed in the world is grown outdoors. hands down. YOU CAN NOT BEAT MOTHER NATURE!!! i dont care who you are, how much knowledge and years of growing you have. that is a personal argument. and purely a choice one makes when growing. and as you spke of breeding new genetics. you do know outdoor growers breed for climate, right?? it bafles my mind that you can not seem to understand that EVERY grower breeds and if you picked up a few books, like Big Book of Buds, any of the 4 volumes, you would know that a lot of strains ARE in fact breed for outdoor growing conditions. hence a lot of the strains that finish early due to early rain, or early frost. man is behind that though, and not nature. and i do agree that "trichromes are more visible nowadays" but who cares about looks, really? why do you even smoke weed? do you have some kind of aliment or condition in which ganja helps you? or is for pure recreational use? i started smoking because i had ADD/ADHD conditions and i never got any sleep as a child. i was and still am a major insomniac. i also got into an accident in grade school which led to years, practically decades of opiate and pharmaceutical use and abuse. i have been pill, alcohol and opiate free for over 31 months and counting!! i will never touch another chemical substance ever again. i put lots of attention and detail to this plant everyday. so when i say "i know what i know" im just an old hard headed fuck who doesn't think someone younger then them can really tell them shit. so please do not take any offence when i say that. i just can not be helped. i appreciate the effort though, lol!!

sorry for the lengthy post, i have to smoke...

washedmothafuka said:

Not everyone is in a PERFECT climate to grow marijuana...even if someone was...weather is out of our control. For you to say that indoor doesn't create better bud...just baffles me. When you are indoors, you can control, temperature, humidity, co2, air flow etc....when you have all of these dialed in perfectly, the marijuana grown will be of higher quality.

Now don't get me wrong, you can get some REALLY dank stuff outdoors, in fact the sun is like a 2000w light over 1sq foot. But indoors because you can control everything, you finish with a more resinous product.

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and nowadays it has nothing to do with your living area. id be willing to bet you can find a strain that will finish early enough. fuck! nowadays you can grow some amazing Autoflowering strains outside. and possibly get 2 crops in in 1 season. yup! research that if you do not believe me.

oHsiN666 said:

man is behind that though, and not nature. and i do agree that "trichromes are more visible nowadays" but who cares about looks, really? why do you even smoke weed? do you have some kind of aliment or condition in which ganja helps you? or is for pure recreational use? i started smoking because i had ADD/ADHD conditions and i never got any sleep as a child. i was and still am a major insomniac. i also got into an accident in grade school which led to years, practically decades of opiate and pharmaceutical use and abuse. i have been pill, alcohol and opiate free for over 31 months and counting!! i will never touch another chemical substance ever again. i put lots of attention and detail to this plant everyday. so when i say "i know what i know" im just an old hard headed fuck who doesn't think someone younger then them can really tell them shit. so please do not take any offence when i say that. i just can not be helped. i appreciate the effort though, lol!!

sorry for the lengthy post, i have to smoke...

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No thank you! Finally, that's what I was asking for...I needed to see where your head was coming from. I agree and disagree with a lot of things you said. But we'll save that for another day. Just for starters, resin glands being more visible and intact means a more psychoactive/medicinal high, because the majority of cannabinoids are located in the head of the resin gland. What happens when weed is dried to quickly or poorly taken care of is these burst and fall off, decreasing the quality. That is where technology has somewhat helped our understand of the herb.

What I bolded is why I smoke. First time I tried it, I didn't know why I liked it, but it was because it helped me sleep, eat, and my ADD. I only realized that after a year of using it. Hey man, I'm really sorry to hear you got into to opiates...I was taking Suboxone over the summer because my friend got his hands on a pack of 100. Though it's not as addicting....definitely showed me how easy it was to get sucked into that life style as before I knew it I was feinding it every other day....

oHsiN666 said:

and nowadays it has nothing to do with your living area. id be willing to bet you can find a strain that will finish early enough. fuck! nowadays you can grow some amazing Autoflowering strains outside. and possibly get 2 crops in in 1 season. yup! research that if you do not believe me.

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Yeah....you can actually get 3-4 crops in one season if you bring them indoors for 12 hours. But your climate still plays a huge role in what plants your able to grow.

Sooo, best consistency for BHO?
I'm new to this process of making BHO and have had different results Everytime I have made it, and for me, when I ground up the buds with a grinder I seemed to get a larger yield. I don't seem to get nearly all the trichs off though because I can still see it when I'm done, also noticed the tane doesn't evenly get through the tube, so some spots seemed untouched by the tane.

And the good ol central valley outdoor, in my opinion, is better than most indoor I come across.

finally back to the original topic...

well this is why i do 2 runs. and i do have another thread posted up about this topic. but i will break down the jist for you. i have been making oil for a long long time. and i think i have it down. here is what i do basically. i do 2 runs. first run the herb is quite chunky, almost popcorn nugget like, but miniature. i slightly pack the glass extractor and i use an Organza cloth. FUCK A COFFEE FILTER!! i purge 2 cans, 3 or 4 if i have them. then this is my first batch. then i take everything out, add a tiny bit more of fresh new herb and grind that and the already run herb in a coffee grinder. then i lightly load the extractor. then i purge 2-3 cans through. this second run is a little darker, and a tad bit less, but just as stony!! i blasted about 43g and got back about 7-9g of oil. a awesome return! thanks for getting back on the topic!!

oHsiN666 said:

im not arguing with kids... and i dont have the time to type pout mass posts just to make my point. i know what i know, and if you don't know it, then educate yourself. read a book. travel. buy weed in more then just your home town. expand your horizon son.

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^^^

this guy is a straight dickhead!

you know what you know? read a book? educate yourself? LMAO

arent you in a forum asking stupid questions yourself, you shmuck?
i just got done stooping myself to his pathetic level yesterday when he got all types of snotty with me when i was just taking time out to help him with his stupid question.

and i find myself looking up some extraction info and see you here making friends again
you're just one of those people... its plain as day

peace

not even on topic. that is very nice of you. for real, it shows your character. come into another thread just to be a dick and talk shit. i think thats called trolling. and you are on ignore. if you put this much energy into your plants instead of your negativity on these boards, then maybe you would be able to produce something half way decent without needing help.

we used to call it pretendo and hell ya christmas buds that are light green with no seeds or hardly any brings me back to middle school days

str8sativa said:

we used to call it pretendo and hell ya christmas buds that are light green with no seeds or hardly any brings me back to middle school days

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FUCKING FINALLY!!! someone who has the same terminology as i did growing up!!! do you live in the South West?? West Coast? Pacific North West?? you dont have to be specific. i just wanna know if its a regional thing or an oldschool thing.

I Stopped Reading about 2 pages in, but the debate about more potent strains now than in the 70's is poop. The weed today isn't more potent, It's just that the potent weed is more AVAILABLE.

becorath said:

I Stopped Reading about 2 pages in, but the debate about more potent strains now than in the 70's is poop. The weed today isn't more potent, It's just that the potent weed is more AVAILABLE.

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Thank you!!!!!!

uhm... if you are 60 years old, then by all means you have room to talk and i woudl love to hear your opinion. but if your under 35, i don't hear you. i believe outdoor grown weed is better, and a lot will disagree with me. it is purely a personal choice. nobody was recording strains thc% or CBD or CBN % 15 years ago. so you really have no proof. so honestly if you want to start a debate, start another thread. this thread is for concentrates. if you think you opinion is better then mine, then go start another thread and back your shit up. most people that come in with 1 or 2 sentences, in my experiences, usually have no experience. i dont mean to be snotty, just what i have encountered on these boards. now, back to concentrates...or please don't post.

oHsiN666 said:

uhm... if you are 60 years old, then by all means you have room to talk and i woudl love to hear your opinion. but if your under 35, i don't hear you. i believe outdoor grown weed is better, and a lot will disagree with me. it is purely a personal choice. nobody was recording strains thc% or CBD or CBN % 15 years ago. so you really have no proof. so honestly if you want to start a debate, start another thread. this thread is for concentrates. if you think you opinion is better then mine, then go start another thread and back your shit up. most people that come in with 1 or 2 sentences, in my experiences, usually have no experience. i dont mean to be snotty, just what i have encountered on these boards. now, back to concentrates...or please don't post.

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Damn didnt know u were getting so upset, I was agreeing with u anyway oh well sorry if it was taken the wrong way

Ok dude. I respect your opinion and I'm not going to liter this thread with any more nonsense.

But please, with respect...shut the fuck up with the whole I'm more knowledgeable, I know what I know and if your not over a certain age than your nothing to me and know nothing about marijuana. You have zero evidence to back up your shit up, yet you want people to continuously back up there's up. Sort of hypocritical if you ask me. I'll make a thread so we can debate, because there are quite a few things you are not taking into account in your point of view...hopefully you wont be as close minded as you are in this thread.

WOW!!! a little childish are ya washmouth. @TURBOCIVIC, sorry i took your response the wrong way. i did relize me and you were on the same page. its the others i have issues with.

washmouth!! you don't know me, and i don't know you. but what i do know is there is a lot of little kids coming on to these boards running there little mouths like they have the best knowledge in the world. you want to keep arguing with me and shit makes you sound like one of those little kids. im a hardheaded old man, and dont give a fuck about your opinions. honestly with the conversation we have already have there, i don't think there is much you can teach me. if you disagree with me thats fine, but if you want a debate, then please have enough sense to do so in a manner in which you can prove your opinion to me in a fashion in which i would relate to. i don't think you have the knowledge to guide me to this positive world of cannabis growing. i mean think about it YOU STILL ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT CONCENTRATES. that tells me 2 things. 1. you can not read. which in tale would mean you do not spend enough time to knowledge your self with the correct info on these boards and care only about yourself and your opinion and wish that i will find your way to be the most efficient way. maybe my vocabulary is a little wishy washy, and i admit i have a bad attitude towards the ones who try to change my mind. but once you prove your ignorance to me once, its really hard to prove your knowledge to me. im still waiting for a link into the proper thread to finish this discussion. but as i expected you do knot have the knowledge to hold a thread down with this debate intacted. please, if you disagree with me, dont argue with me, you will not win. hence forth the statement "i know what i know" again i will admit, encase you didn't catch it the 1st or 2nd time. im hardheaded, and you have to prove your knowledge 10 fold before i will believe you. i do not know you, or where you come from. therefore i do not care to have you educate me any longer. please ive asked several fucking damn times!!! if your posts aint about concentrates, shut the fuck up!!!!!! you obviously are more hardheaded then me if you will not drop the debate in this thread. im officially done. if 1 more comment is posted other then the original topic, i will personally delete this thread. some people may actually want and need info on concentrates and don't want to sit through 3 pages of bullshit to get the info they came here for. so please, if you cant shut the fuck, at least leave me and this thread the fuck alone.