ginjawarrior
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mankind didnt appear until half a billion years after the cambrian explosion thats hardly all of a sudden...
Why Is The Bible So Revered As The "Word of GOD"?
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mankind didnt appear until half a billion years after the cambrian explosion thats hardly all of a sudden...
BrotherBuz
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My claims are founded in bedrock. I have physical, fossil and tangible evidence, what do you have?. You got nothing-nothing.
KlosetKing
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Actually i never said i believed ANY of that story cuz i dont. I was merely using a specific example, i dont want to speak in generalities like you guys are so pro at doing.First u want a "theory" then u want fact, which do u want?u want to know how eve was made but u believe how God made Adam? why u would choose THAT, I just don't know.
You continue this, but it is only because you do not accept evolution as even slightly plausible. The bottom line is there were millions of animals, trees, insects, and numerous other forms of life that he COULDN'T HAVE POSSIBLY got them all. To think that one old man built a big enough boat to even fit 2 of just 1 thousand animals is an absolute fallacy, and mentally handicapped children still have trouble accepting it.
There is actual science and TONS of books that imply that jesus was a man. Can you find TONS of books referring to noah? can you find TONS of books that refer to adam and eve? no, just a couple. Also, you only continue to believe he walked on water because its what your fabled story book tells you. Were you there? Guess what, i just saw my mom walk on water too! Who are you to say i didnt, you werent there! See your reasoning? You guys keep missing the biggest thing about having a debate, the burden proof lies on those making the claim.
I provide quotes and links for all of my arguments, almost every time. Please, PLEASE, point out to me where i said 'History is Fact'. You cant, because it didnt happen.
Some might say that engagement practices are outdated, but it really doesn't matter does it? People don't use engagement as a tool for mass control, oppression of rights or murder. Try again. The bible teaches us about where we came from, the way we thought a long time ago, how we evolved from our previous ways of faith, civilization, ignorance and intelligence, ugliness and beauty, all in one. It is NOT fact, far less so than a history textbook, which is already questionable enough as it is. So even if i DID reference to the bible as fact due to being a form of history (which i didnt) would i rather trust 'textbook' thats 10 years old? Or 2000 years old?People believe it the same way they believe what was written about how George Washington talked, looked, & was, because it was written by people who knew him, knew of him, & from that time frame. To say now, that so much time has passed, that those that still believe this piece of history (u said that right) r afraid of the future or cling to outdated ideals is absurd. We believe it to be our human history like any other. And is it still outdated to have a man near on one knee to propose to his bride to be? God I would hope not. I hope the younger generations still cherish some ideals as ones like God's love
Your beliefs ARE outdated. Very few of you use your faith as ONLY a tool for the good, and for leading a good life. MOST of you, use it as a tool for war. As a means to strike fear into those that are not intelligent enough to make their own decisions, take responsibility for their own actions, or even understand how many serious holes in your 'logic' there are.
I am more than willing to continue to post, quote, link, and continue to break your argument apart piece by piece if needed. This post is a direct example. I have addressed everything you have said. How will you respond? I expect more dodging, more circles. It lost its fun for a bit, but i admit, you have rekindled me slightly.
Oh, more insults. No surprise there eh?
Padawanbater2
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No, what you have are novice critical thinking skills.
I'm not even sure you know what you're claiming.
The traditional route creationists take is sidestepping the science and going straight with faith "god works in mysterious ways".. For one to claim the science confirms the biblical account of creation, it's just laughably stupid because it means one of two things; a. The person has no basic understanding of science, and b. Their god actively deceives us by giving us inaccurate measurements, inconsistent with an all loving god.
The science, that is every single piece, supports and confirms evolutionary theory. It is fact.
BrotherBuz
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What I mean by sudden is this:
Evolutionists claim that it took millions and millions of years for mankind to evolve. But if this is true, then there should be "transitional links" that precedes the appearance of mankind in the fossil record.
Transitional fossils (popularly termed missing links) are the fossilized remains of intermediary forms of life that illustrate an evolutionary transition. The missing links hasn't been found, because it does not exist. lol lol
ginjawarrior
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KlosetKing
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Omg, im so tired of hearing this. We could find 1000 missing links, and that last link would be missing a toe or some shit and you guys would continue to say that the links just arent there. Someday i hope you come to accept the opposable thumb as a pretty damn big hint.
[video]http://www.myvidster.com/video/316851[/video]
"Things do not exist simply because you say they do... THUS SAYETH THE GREAT CREATURE IN THE SKY!"
KlosetKing
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NO NO NO. Dont you get it? Wheres the link between N and O? Pfft. Not enough links yet ;Dkeep up kid
budlover13
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Hey all.
I gotta admit that BrotherBuz has got tenacity. Pitbull is fitting. I admire conviction and heart. I've unsubscribed to this thread 4 times now, but keep seeing it pop up and wonder how it isn't up in flames by now. Y'all are doing a great job. Lot's of heart and minimal personal attacks. Keep it up guys. Intelligent debate and discussion is the only way to get us(society) out of this mess we find ourselves in.
I gotta admit that BrotherBuz has got tenacity. Pitbull is fitting. I admire conviction and heart. I've unsubscribed to this thread 4 times now, but keep seeing it pop up and wonder how it isn't up in flames by now. Y'all are doing a great job. Lot's of heart and minimal personal attacks. Keep it up guys. Intelligent debate and discussion is the only way to get us(society) out of this mess we find ourselves in.
ChubbySoap
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*waits patiently for the inevitable question of why there are still monkeys if we evolved from them*
BrotherBuz
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Are you kidding me.
The fossil record does not support evolution.Got it?
Padawanbater2
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Explain how.Are you kidding me.
Everything ever dug up from the ground in fossil form supports evolutionary theory, that is without exception pal.
mindphuk
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Does too. Naw naw naw.Are you kidding me.
See I can play that game too but it doesn't help anyone learn anything.
That's all you seem to do is making broad assertions without evidence. Your trite link to a creationist website notwithstanding, you have yet to show any evidence for ANY claim you have made in this thread. Your opposition, however, has given ample evidence which you have yet to refute.
The fossil record goes from simple organisms to complex. Your link even confirms that.
Why not try to act like the adult you pretend to be and actually answer objections to your posts without the snide comments. The only thing you have responded to my posts with are insults. Of course, I don't mind as it shows the weakness of your debate skills.
Go ahead, prove we are all wrong about you and answer some of the questions and challenges put forth.
mindphuk
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He does this tactic so you keep asking questions, hopefully forgetting that he hasn't answered the ones you asked earlier.
KlosetKing
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So you can say that even though 9 things say otherwise, the 1 phrase means its true. You do the same here. All of the parts of evolution don't matter, the one part you don't understand means its false. But, all but ONE phrase calls the earth, in so many words, flat? You cant just flip your logic like that.
There are hundreds, nay thousands of fossils, studies, teeth, visual and dna evidence to support it, but you go and find the ONE thing that doesn't add up as nicely as the rest does (sad thing is it does, you just dont understand it).
So is religion really about just believing the improbable? Having faith in luck? You're argument about the sphere is that they said it ONCE, even though it was contradicted in multiple other places in the very same 'book'. Yet you are assuming the ONE part of evolution that doesn't make sense to you (even though it does to everyone else) means it is all a fallacy, even tho the rest of it backs it up.
Your are a mind boggler for sure.
KlosetKing
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EXACTLY! It is so freaking common its not even funny. These guys truly must have a fuckin handbook somewhere.
Google 'how to disprove evolution'. Their kind actually have writeups as to how to debate the topic. Tactics on how to avoid certain questions, and tips on how to twist words against their opponent (debater).
BrotherBuz
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Your problem is this. You don't understand the meaning of "transitional links".
You remind me of a person who has lived in a cave, chained to the wall, since birth. Someone comes along and leads you out of the cave, into the sun. The light is too bright, so back into the cave you go, watching shadows on the wall, thinking its reality. That's sad lol lol
KlosetKing
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Oh i fully understand the idea of transitional links. You will just never have enough of them. There is a difference.
It's funny that you of all people would say that i'm the one in the dark. You have provided the least amount of actual data to back up your arguments than anyone. The one person who came in here and defended you provided a post that was 10x the quality of anything you have said yet, and it still didn't have any real links, citations, or data.
It's funny that you of all people would say that i'm the one in the dark. You have provided the least amount of actual data to back up your arguments than anyone. The one person who came in here and defended you provided a post that was 10x the quality of anything you have said yet, and it still didn't have any real links, citations, or data.
BrotherBuz
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You better put the bong down bro . . . lol lol lol
KlosetKing
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More quality debate.
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