Yesterday's Mass Shooting.

Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Herb & Suds said:
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Well this brought tears to my eyes :(. The fact that kids are getting shot due to fucked up folks accessing guns with no training, no background checks and no wait periods is a issue that can be fixed. One child’s life saved is worth the few days of training, 30 day wait period with full federal background check. Why the fuck is this not implemented? Canada has all of these things for first time gun purchasers. Once you have jumped through a few hoops you are free to buy a gun anytime you want, seems simple enough.
 
sweetisland2009

sweetisland2009

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Budley Doright said:
Well this brought tears to my eyes :(. The fact that kids are getting shot due to fucked up folks accessing guns with no training, no background checks and no wait periods is a issue that can be fixed. One child’s life saved is worth the few days of training, 30 day wait period with full federal background check. Why the fuck is this not implemented? Canada has all of these things for first time gun purchasers. Once you have jumped through a few hoops you are free to buy a gun anytime you want, seems simple enough.
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I do tend to agree but worry about how it is implemented and the underlying or ongoing costs. Im of the mind every granny living alone in the hood or trailer park or wherever for that matter, should have access to a firearm at the cheapest possible cost. Those are the places that face the most ongoing violent crime and the good people living there who are already impoverished, should have access to defense/deterrents.

As long as there is an exemption program similar to getting free IDs, it could work.

Imagine - all of the concern about voter ID/access to IDs because of poverty or race or whatever the talking point is, and that’s only $20-50 tops. Firearm licenses/certification would be a lot more and therefore unfair to that same group of people.
 
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schuylaar

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sweetisland2009 said:
I do tend to agree but worry about how it is implemented and the underlying or ongoing costs. Im of the mind every granny living alone in the hood or trailer park or wherever for that matter, should have access to a firearm at the cheapest possible cost. Those are the places that face the most ongoing violent crime and the good people living there who are already impoverished, should have access to defense/deterrents.

As long as there is an exemption program similar to getting free IDs, it could work.

Imagine - all of the concern about voter ID/access to IDs because of poverty or race or whatever the talking point is, and that’s only $20-50 tops. Firearm licenses/certification would be a lot more and therefore unfair to that same group of people.
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No one..not one single America needs a weapon of war, to live up to 2A. Originally invented for Viet Nam War is now just out in the open in Tennessee, everywhere..no need for anything. Be 18 and have the $$$.

This isn't 1788, any longer and an AR-15, no Musket.

More guns are not the answer. 'Granny in the hood or trailer park' is..unsavory.
 
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Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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sweetisland2009 said:
I do tend to agree but worry about how it is implemented and the underlying or ongoing costs. Im of the mind every granny living alone in the hood or trailer park or wherever for that matter, should have access to a firearm at the cheapest possible cost. Those are the places that face the most ongoing violent crime and the good people living there who are already impoverished, should have access to defense/deterrents.

As long as there is an exemption program similar to getting free IDs, it could work.

Imagine - all of the concern about voter ID/access to IDs because of poverty or race or whatever the talking point is, and that’s only $20-50 tops. Firearm licenses/certification would be a lot more and therefore unfair to that same group of people.
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I can’t imagine buying a gun for self defence :(. So glad Canada finally stopped all handgun sales and importation. Ya that’s to bad you feel the need for everyone to own a gun and sad you put a cost limit (taxpayer) on a child’s life.
 
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schuylaar

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I wonder why her therapist didn't report? They have Duty to Report and ask every time if you feel like your going to kill yourself or others.
 
Fogdog

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Splinter7 said:
lol. you don't get it. at all. they play both sides against you. and you fell for it. lol again. like my econometrics professor told us the last day of econ school....you will make a lot more money worry about making more money that you ever will worrying about politics. that is what Russia and friends is really after. you're just helping them.
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Splinter7 said:
having a feeling is all you can have. it's american politics. it's just feels for idiots...i don't partake.
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There are also facts, which can provide better guidance than simple feelings. The fact is, Russia has been providing enormous sums to Republican leaders and to Trump in particular. The NRA in particular has been a beneficiary too. This was well documented in that article you probably didn't read. Going forward there are some interesting trends. Sanctions against Russia, its oligarchs and its banks have virtually cut off the flow of that dirty money. NRA is bankrupt and Trump's PACs are not doing very well.

lol at the tired "both sides" argument. You don't even try to justify it.
 
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schuylaar

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Why it does not like this? Png?

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I've noticed some files I have to dl and save to desktop usually .gif try the .png after saving. Don't just try to copy from wherever and paste on those. Weird too because I can see the .png. when replying to you. It just won't post.
 
sweetisland2009

sweetisland2009

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schuylaar said:
No one..not one single America needs a weapon of war, to live up to 2A. Originally invented for Viet Nam War is now just out in the open in Tennessee, everywhere..no need for anything. Be 18 and have the $$$.

This isn't 1788, any longer and an AR-15, no Musket.

More guns are not the answer. 'Granny in the hood or trailer park' is..unsavory.
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how convenient it is for you to say that and feel that way. A truly privileged life away from those who face this reality every day.
 
Fogdog

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sweetisland2009 said:
how convenient it is for you to say that and feel that way. A truly privileged life away from those who face this reality every day.
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What shithole do you live in?

Lets do a little math.

100,000 people each year use a gun in self defense. https://www.npr.org/2018/04/13/602143823/how-often-do-people-use-guns-in-self-defense
40% of adults own at least one gun. https://wamu.org/story/20/09/18/how-many-people-in-the-u-s-own-guns/
258 million adults in the US. US census

40% of 258 million = 103 million gun owners

100 x 100,000/103,000,000 = .0.09%

Put another way, for every 10,000 gun owners, 9 used a gun in self defense.

So, where do you live? In most places of the US, its extremely rare that a gun owner ever uses a gun in self defense.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Fogdog said:
What shithole do you live in?

Lets do a little math.

100,000 people each year use a gun in self defense. https://www.npr.org/2018/04/13/602143823/how-often-do-people-use-guns-in-self-defense
40% of adults own at least one gun. https://wamu.org/story/20/09/18/how-many-people-in-the-u-s-own-guns/
258 million adults in the US. US census

40% of 258 million = 103 million gun owners

100 x 100,000/103,000,000 = .0.09%

Put another way, for every 10,000 gun owners, 9 used a gun in self defense.

So, where do you live? In most places of the US, its extremely rare that a gun owner ever uses a gun in self defense.
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It sounds like a very dangerous place. AR is also probably not the best self defence choice but maybe there are very large numbers trying to breach his location……. crazy huh :(.
 
DoubleAtotheRON

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Fogdog said:
lol

Yeah, I'm an entitled bitch because I, like 155 million adults in the US, never felt the need to even buy a gun, much less feel like I might need one.
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Maybe you should venture out more..... then you will. @Budley Doright .. You are absolutely correct. An AR is not the best choice for self defense. You ever fire an AR15 out in the open without hearing protection?... that shit hurts!.. I can't imagine how loud it would be inside of a building.
 
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