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Yet More Evidence the Feds are Creating a Fascist State

Doer

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If you grow or possess cannabis you are breaking federal law.

Just an FYI FRIEND.
State law seems to trump for now, but my right to the federal airway is diminished. IAC, I like it here where I can quite legally get stoned, except in Federal Facilities. Ya'll see how that works?

The Fed has no jurisdiction here.
 

AlecTheGardener

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State law seems to trump for now, but my right to the federal airway is diminished. IAC, I like it here where I can quite legally get stoned, except in Federal Facilities. Ya'll see how that works?

The Fed has no jurisdiction here.
Until they come with a federal agency such as the:
FBI
BATF
DEA
Homeland Security

Take you pick, which one can raid your home?

Answer: all of them.
 

AlecTheGardener

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collecting metadata of phone records does not equate to being recorded and listened to on your phone calls.
Some of the programs utilize key words or phrases, once one of these key words or phrases is spoken a series of algorithms decides to log and record the audio.
 

Doer

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Until they come with a federal agency such as the:
FBI
BATF
DEA
Homeland Security

Take you pick, which one can raid your home?

Answer: all of them.
But, they don't...so far. And why would they? They have jobs to do. And if they did, they would be mistaken but still doing an important job that I need done.
 

AlecTheGardener

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But, they don't...so far. And why would they? They have jobs to do. And if they did, they would be mistaken but still doing an important job that I need done.
Ahhhh, I see.

You must understand my point, no? You cannot be that obtuse unless it is on purpose.

Rights are not to be infringed. You are dangerously close to being an apologist for almost all dictatorships and tyrants throughout history.

Surely since you claim to be self ruled you understand the basis of our system is supposed to be truth and honesty. The machinations of intelligence apparatuses always ends up in the corruption and reduction of liberties and rights.
 

Doer

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Always good talking with you Alec. :)

You seem to guess my little secret. OK big secret.

I don't believe, follow, buy into, go along with or apologize for anything. Yep, you got me. :)
 

Doer

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I heard a great quote last night.

"Ideals are peaceful. History is violent." Wardaddy Collins, tank Fury.

Rights may be infringed. But, hardasses and truth seekers have to make sure that is kept to a minimum. It is self rule. In our system, for every Al Capone there is an Elliot Ness. And the system created them both.

Day to day infringements of minor liberties cannot be stamped out all together. That takes tyranny. Jihad (ISIL) attempts rigid Legalism like in the days of Confucius. (I told you all, these social constructs including religion, come from China, first. It is the way the North Hemi Origami of the Diaspora from Africa worked out.)

But, think, we don't even need law to keep some other citizen from harming us. Here we are sovereigns and we may stop a violator in certain circumstances as if we were the govt itself.
Why? WE ARE the govt itself. Citizen arrest, Lawful killing, right of self protection, no hate speech and the 9th Amendment combined, means we are actually and technically very Free, compare to the rest of this world.

And you are free to think we aren't. See how beautiful?

Ours is the system that is designed to balance itself from a 180 degree capsize, (she come BACK UUUUUP) It is not a system where there is never a wave, never a problem, no one is ever upset. No other system was thought through like this.

And in every single generation there are those like you, tye, and me that think it is totally down the tube. But, I broke though. I revisited as an adult what the system is designed to do. And then, as my right and duty as a citizen, I went through the history of our nation to see if it was always like this, but with different challenges and tools, of course. It totally was and is SNAFU by design.

It is our system and it works and everyone distrusts it. I do. And I have been knocked in the head for my trouble, but we pulled out of Nam.
 
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NLXSK1

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Ahhhh, I see.

You must understand my point, no? You cannot be that obtuse unless it is on purpose.

Rights are not to be infringed. You are dangerously close to being an apologist for almost all dictatorships and tyrants throughout history.

Surely since you claim to be self ruled you understand the basis of our system is supposed to be truth and honesty. The machinations of intelligence apparatuses always ends up in the corruption and reduction of liberties and rights.
You seem hypocritical. On one hand you demand the government strip the rights of the people regarding the internet yet on the other hand you declare from the highest tower that rights are not to be infringed.

Do you want the government to control people more or less because you sure seem to be zigzagging on the issue.
 

schuylaar

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I am suggesting that unlike in my day when the draft was in full swing, there is almost no blood on the streets, or in battle as a conscript from being pushed from behind by bayonets.

And as I told you before I appreciate you taking the watch. But, when it gets real, even I will be back out there. And may we not see those dangers, like Kent State again.

You don't have a draft number, but you still had to register. And it could get real again.
wasn't your draft number your birthdate?..specifically, vietnam?
 

Doer

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wasn't your draft number your birthdate?..specifically, vietnam?
Yes, but, it no longer a draft number, since no draft. See how easy they make this? :) All still have to register. But, birthday is just the place in the Lottery, not your registration number.
 

UncleBuck

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You seem hypocritical. On one hand you demand the government strip the rights of the people regarding the internet yet on the other hand you declare from the highest tower that rights are not to be infringed.

Do you want the government to control people more or less because you sure seem to be zigzagging on the issue.
so you think it is comcast's right to extort its customers by throttling their speeds?
 
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