Use of the word "nigger"

ledgic13

ledgic13

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jew is different, thats a religion, black and whites can be jews,negro is for blacks.

what the fuck man, it seems like you cant have decent conversations anywhere.
nvm its pointless to have meaningfull discussions

and this is what they want.
 
mjetta

mjetta

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I agree, Jew is different

you cant go to your local synogogue and become black

although these days it seems like you can just goto your local rap concert and become black lol
 
ccodiane

ccodiane

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"Actually the Irish arrived at a time of need for America. The country was growing and it needed men to do the heavy work of building bridges, canals, and railroads. It was hard, dangerous work, a common expression heard among the railroad workers was "an Irishman was buried under every tie." Desperation drove them to these jobs.
Not only the men worked, but the women too. They became chamber maids, cooks, and the caretakers of children. Early Americans disdained this type of work, fit only for servants, the common sentiment being, "Let Negroes be servants, and if not Negroes, let Irishmen fill their place..." The Blacks hated the Irish and it appeared to be a mutual feeling. They were the first to call the Irish "white nigger.""
 
ccodiane

ccodiane

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"Niggas in the church say: kill whitey all night long. .
. the white man is the devil. . . . the CRIPS and Bloods are
soldiers I'm recruiting with no dispute; drive-by shooting on this
white genetic mutant. . . . let's go and kill some rednecks. . . .
Menace Clan ain't afraid. . . . I got the .380; the homies think I'm
crazy because I shot a white baby; I said; I said; I said: kill
whitey all night long. . . . a nigga dumping on your white ass; fuck
this rap shit, nigga, I'm gonna blast. . . . I beat a white boy to
the motherfucking ground"; "Kill Whitey"; --Menace Clan, Da Hood,
1995, Rap-A-Lot Records, Noo Trybe Records

I know where your coming from........these are "your roots", right? Or are you much older than I give you credit for?
 
mjetta

mjetta

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ccodiane said:
"Actually the Irish arrived at a time of need for America. The country was growing and it needed men to do the heavy work of building bridges, canals, and railroads. It was hard, dangerous work, a common expression heard among the railroad workers was "an Irishman was buried under every tie." Desperation drove them to these jobs.
Not only the men worked, but the women too. They became chamber maids, cooks, and the caretakers of children. Early Americans disdained this type of work, fit only for servants, the common sentiment being, "Let Negroes be servants, and if not Negroes, let Irishmen fill their place..." The Blacks hated the Irish and it appeared to be a mutual feeling. They were the first to call the Irish "white nigger.""
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But shortly thereafter, the Blacks and Irish bonded together because the Irish were not considered white. The Irish eventually gained classification as whites by taking government and infrastrcuture related jobs, (police fire etc)

shortly thereafter, the Irish joined the other whites in belittling blacks
 
ccodiane

ccodiane

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as i said real deal educated africans

This is a huge element of the problem. Your an American, sir, or am I incorrect? When you start to think like an American, not an African living in America, you'll move past the stereotypes, one man/woman at a time, like all other successful "immigrant groups" have done.....integrate. Take part. Work hard. Live the dream. Be an American.
 
ccodiane

ccodiane

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Well, it's bullshit.....the whole lot. Race is decided in the head of each individual, in America and other free countries, that is. You can only be belittled if your susceptible to false claims. If your an American, your my brother. That doesn't mean I have to like you, though. (not you, just saying:blsmoke:)
 
ccodiane

ccodiane

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we were discussing how race is not a concrete definition but rather a product of society

Best place to look for definitions is in the dictionary, or two just to be safe....:hump:


 Main Entry: 3race
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, generation, from Old Italian razza
Date: 1580 1: a breeding stock of animals
2 a: a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock
b: a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics
3 a: an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species; also : a taxonomic category (as a subspecies) representing such a group
b: breed
c: a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits
4obsolete : inherited temperament or disposition
5: distinctive flavor, taste, or strength

I like this one....ie. American, Human
 
mjetta

mjetta

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True, but think of Haley Barrey, In the U.S she is considered black, but in many African countries or South America she would be viewed as white. Its a matter of perspective, but food for thought
 
ccodiane

ccodiane

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mjetta said:
True, but think of Haley Berry, In the U.S she is considered black, but in many African countries or South America she would be viewed as white. Its a matter of perspective, but food for thought
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You forget one elemental point.....what does Berry consider HERSELF?

From the mouth of babes....

"I was raised by my white mother and every day of my life I have always been aware of the fact that I am bi-racial. However, growing up I was aware that even though my mother was white, I did not look or "feel" very white myself...Many times my classmates did not believe me when I said my mother was white. I soon grew tired of trying to prove that I was half-black and half-white and learned not to concern myself with what others thought. I began to relate to the other "all black kids" at my school more because quite simply...I looked more like them...After having many talks with my mother about the issue, she reinforced what she had always taught me. She said that even though you are half black and half white, you will be discriminated against in this country as a black person. People will not know when they see you that you have a white mother unless you wear a sign on your forehead. And, even if they did, so many people believe that you have an ounce of black blood in you then you are black. So, therefore, I decided to let folks categorize me however they needed to. I realized that my sense of self and my sense of worth was not determined by the color of my skin or what ethnic group I chose to be a part of. I decided to go about my life normally, to be the individual I was and let the issue of my race be the issue of those who had a problem with it...the fact that my mother was white, and her blood ran through my veins, made no difference in the face of the ignorance of racism...the question should be, why should it matter what color anyone is or what heritage they identify with? If people would just learn to look at everyone equally and stop trying to label one another the issue of what we are all made of would be null and void...We are all members of the same race, the HUMAN RACE!...I have realized that by being viewed as only BLACK I am in a wonderful position. I can continue to blaze a trail for black women in film and television and help open the minds of those who have been victims of the racist teachings of the past. If through my life I can help obliterate the negative images of black people and help to abolish the negative stereotypes associated with black people...then when I die I will know my life had real purpose."


http://racerelations.about.com/od/celebritiesandrace/a/hollywoodtoday.htm
 
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mjetta

mjetta

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ccodiane said:
You forget one elemental point.....what does Barrey consider HERSELF?

From the mouth of babes....

"I was raised by my white mother and every day of my life I have always been aware of the fact that I am bi-racial. However, growing up I was aware that even though my mother was white, I did not look or "feel" very white myself...Many times my classmates did not believe me when I said my mother was white. I soon grew tired of trying to prove that I was half-black and half-white and learned not to concern myself with what others thought. I began to relate to the other "all black kids" at my school more because quite simply...I looked more like them...After having many talks with my mother about the issue, she reinforced what she had always taught me. She said that even though you are half black and half white, you will be discriminated against in this country as a black person. People will not know when they see you that you have a white mother unless you wear a sign on your forehead. And, even if they did, so many people believe that you have an ounce of black blood in you then you are black. So, therefore, I decided to let folks categorize me however they needed to. I realized that my sense of self and my sense of worth was not determined by the color of my skin or what ethnic group I chose to be a part of. I decided to go about my life normally, to be the individual I was and let the issue of my race be the issue of those who had a problem with it...the fact that my mother was white, and her blood ran through my veins, made no difference in the face of the ignorance of racism...the question should be, why should it matter what color anyone is or what heritage they identify with? If people would just learn to look at everyone equally and stop trying to label one another the issue of what we are all made of would be null and void...We are all members of the same race, the HUMAN RACE!...I have realized that by being viewed as only BLACK I am in a wonderful position. I can continue to blaze a trail for black women in film and television and help open the minds of those who have been victims of the racist teachings of the past. If through my life I can help obliterate the negative images of black people and help to abolish the negative stereotypes associated with black people...then when I die I will know my life had real purpose."


Halle Berry - Halle Berry Bio
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Sheesh that was quick lol

you make a good point, but does it make a difference what someone consideres themselves when society places whatever label they wish on them and they are treated accordingly. If she was around 150 years ago, she could consider herself white all day long but since society considered anyone with any black whatsoever in them black, she would be considered black, and therefore a slave:peace:
 
ccodiane

ccodiane

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mjetta said:
Sheesh that was quick lol

you make a good point, but does it make a difference what someone consideres themselves when society places whatever label they wish on them and they are treated accordingly. If she was around 150 years ago, she could consider herself white all day long but since society considered anyone with any black whatsoever in them black, she would be considered black, and therefore a slave:peace:
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We live in the now......that's just how it is......if you want to live int he past, hurry up and die.
 
ccodiane

ccodiane

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07-23-2008 11:58 PM Bigot - noun: a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own

:mrgreen: (my nigga)
 
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