Congress over ride the ppl choice

schuylaar

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How come it was cool with you when obama Reid and Pelosi overrode the will of the entire country (not just one city) and passed obamacare?
the will of the entire country?

:lol:

you watch too much fox.

this poll was pre-obamacare:

44% of Americans supported the law, with 56% against. By party affiliation, 75% of Democrats, 27% of Independents, and 14% of Republicans favored the law overall.
http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-poll/
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
heroin is a stronger drug

how many ppl have u heard about dying from falling asleep using coffee to push self past limits .........how many ppl in college has drank so much up for 72 plus hours and then crazy stuff happen
alcohol is a drug.
 

SmokeyDan

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the will of the entire country?

:lol:

you watch too much fox.

this poll was pre-obamacare:

44% of Americans supported the law, with 56% against. By party affiliation, 75% of Democrats, 27% of Independents, and 14% of Republicans favored the law overall.
http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-poll/
So 56% against?

If a president won with 56% of the vote it would be called a landslide. A mandate, if you will.

Of course Democrats had a lower opposition to it than republicans did.

My point was all of those demographics are all part of the whole.

I do realize that the bay area in california probably supported it. That doesn't mean no one there opposed it.

Semantics.

We live in a 50%+1 country. I don't think it should be this way. I think when a major policy change is proposed more than 50% should favor it. Like Florida in the marijuana law that just failed with 58% of the vote.

Obamacare never had even 50%.
 

SmokeyDan

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well, it has over 60% support now.

the republican alternative has about 11% support.

so thanks for making the affirmative argument for obamacare, bignbushy.
So doing things against people's will is ok if they like it?

It's ok to rape a girl, in your mind, if you go down on her afterward.

Your present popularity numbers are a bit misleading. You're including in your support figures people who think we should have single payer .
 

UncleBuck

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So doing things against people's will is ok if they like it?

It's ok to rape a girl, in your mind, if you go down on her afterward.

Your present popularity numbers are a bit misleading. You're including in your support figures people who think we should have single payer .
no, the 60% of people who support obamacare include both those who think we should keep it as is and those who want to expand on obamacare without repealing it.

and as i recall, every single provision within obamacare was wildly popular and still is. so passing it was not against the will of the majority of the people.
 

SmokeyDan

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there was no election for Obamacare you idiots. There WAS an election for weed in DC and it passed. They are nothing a like
As unamerican as it sounds, elections in DC are more of an opinion poll.

It's a federal district who's leaders are elected by the rest of the country

If the people there don't like it they should move. It's not a state.
 

SmokeyDan

Well-Known Member
no, the 60% of people who support obamacare include both those who think we should keep it as is and those who want to expand on obamacare without repealing it.

and as i recall, every single provision within obamacare was wildly popular and still is. so passing it was not against the will of the majority of the people.
No, the major provisions are popular.

It's the little things Gruber was talking about that are highly unpopular.

And as far as your poll, for every showing favorability, there are polls showing opposition. It depends on how the question is asked.

But every poll at time of passage was opposed.
 

justugh

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As unamerican as it sounds, elections in DC are more of an opinion poll.

It's a federal district who's leaders are elected by the rest of the country

If the people there don't like it they should move. It's not a state.
DC is a State just a federal state .......the whole mayor and everything in there does matter for shit since congress can override the budget at anytime

the whole weed thing is done ........it will be legal but the federal government refuses to pay for it ........no shops like CO or anywhere else no rules about open shops only thing they will keep funding is medical

the simplest choice is to expand medical to include everything
 

justugh

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all the money DC uses and spends and makes is federal money and needs congresses ok to be spent on what they want ..........it is one of the biggest fights they have this is not the first time the ppl wanted something but the government said nope not going to pay for it
 

Dr Kynes

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huffington post u are ? them

teh fux? are you having an aneurism?

u really need to do some checking on your news stories ............
my "news stories" checking is fine, the sources are the issue.

BBC is great for world news
you may not know it but the BBC has american affiliates too... (see how the ellipses is 3 dots?)

so is Rtv
R Mother Fucking T?? RT is Russian State Television.

RT is run by the KG Used-to-Be as a propaganda arm of the Russian Government.

but the coverage of the USA is just the same fluffy peice of craps they feed u
right. because i'm the one who is uninformed.

as for CNN atleast they still report the news not just talk shows about this option on what ever news was
ok. you go back to watching RT, as they explain to you how the evil Ukrainians are oppressing the innocent Russians in Crimea, which is why Russia had to "Re-Establish It's Historic Borders".
maybe the official Chines Government News Service can also reveal to you the evils of the Falun Gong, and why they should have their organs harvested and sold to the highest bidder, and how the Noble Peoples Revolutionary Army is preserving peace and freedom throughout the world by keeping those dastardly Tibetans from using their pacifism to destroy us all.
 

justugh

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@Dr Kynes

the huffington post is one of the oldest papers on this side of the Atlantic the rep they have is well above reproach........have a look at their reports on a news story compared to some others ........they go into more detail most of the time more then any of the others

Cnn again my point is proven they will do news reports ..........not just talk shows on a subject they think ppl want to watch they do have some but everything does but at least not the whole format

BBC yes they have ppl in this country but the usa goverement can not say we will pull your press pass because we do not like what u are saying about us like they did with FOX news ..............BBC is a england based different sets of rules ........and they cover everything from china to usa not just local kitty stuck in a tree or a plane into a local house

Rtv is great they will call US out on shit will point out what we said and what we did and the facts are correct ........several reporters from USA have left and joined Rtv do to the fact they were being censored here

i watch aljazea ...china tv....anything so i can hear the repeating stories and facts so i know what is really going on

but all news is twisted to fit some point of view ........the only way to get the truth is to listen to it all take what is repeated ( u see things one way i see things another way so the truth lays some where in the middle of that )

now this is all based on the idea that the ppl reporting the news are honest and not just reading something made up to cover up/ explain something
 
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