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DIY-HP-LED

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now lets not jump to conclusions about the pullout of Kherson just yet......one side, it could be a ruse, another floating around the russian are changing clothes in Kherson, getting ready for a very close and personal inter-city fight...just lets wait and see.....time will tell

it is nice to hear overall though
I'm sure the Ukrainians have a plan and are well aware of any potential danger. It could end up being a slaughter of Russian artillery across the river using drones counter battery radars and concentrating long range 155mm guns, while HIMARS takes out their ammo dumps and logistics in the rear. The Ukrainians probably have over a hundred landing craft to cross the Dnipro by now and might when the time is right, they were given lots of bridging stuff too and could even use repaired Russian pontoon sections.
 

BudmanTX

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I'm sure the Ukrainians have a plan and are well aware of any potential danger. It could end up being a slaughter of Russian artillery across the river using drones counter battery radars and concentrating long range 155mm guns, while HIMARS takes out their ammo dumps and logistics in the rear. The Ukrainians probably have over a hundred landing craft to cross the Dnipro by now and might when the time is right, they were given lots of bridging stuff too and could even use repaired Russian pontoon sections.
actually this is were you stop, clear the city of booby traps and other things, meanwhile......look towards zaporia side, and start of offersive that direction, one side comes towards Kherson, and other Metopol arena, cutting them off....
 

DIY-HP-LED

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also keep in mind Kherson is completely looted too...museums, cultural stuff, statues....etc......
Not just Kherson is cut off, the Kerch rail bridge is damaged, and the other costal rail line is under tube artillery fire. Ukraine will soon have SCALP cruise missiles to take down the Kerch Bridge and a drive to the sea of Azov would cut the Russians in the south and Crimea off for a really big trap next time. Let's see how they hold out in the south and in Crimea if they are cut off from resupply and even fuel over the winter.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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actually this is were you stop, clear the city of booby traps and other things, meanwhile......look towards zaporia side, and start of offersive that direction, one side comes towards Kherson, and other Metopol arena, cutting them off....
Bag em first and move in the territorials to mop up, but that is the next logical move along with cutting the Kerch bridge and see how they do over the winter when cut off in the south and Crimea.
 

BudmanTX

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Bag em first and move in the territorials to mop up, but that is the next logical move along with cutting the Kerch bridge and see how they do over the winter when cut off in the south and Crimea.
yeah time to pull up the ol lawn chair, make a fresh bag of popcorn, and see how things play out.....

there is a couple of reports of the Russians switching sides too, so lets keep an eye on that too..
 

DIY-HP-LED

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yeah time to pull up the ol lawn chair, make a fresh bag of popcorn, and see how things play out.....

there is a couple of reports of the Russians switching sides too, so lets keep an eye on that too..
War is serious business and should only be resorted to under extreme conditions. It often has unintended outcomes and consequences. The Monarchies of Europe found that out in WW1, Hitler learned the hard way in WW2 and now Vlad is the latest example of such stupidity. Bush's unnecessary war against Saddam filled Europe with refugees and cause a rightwing backlash and occupying the place was a disaster for America.
 

BudmanTX

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War is serious business and should only be resorted to under extreme conditions. It often has unintended outcomes and consequences. The Monarchies of Europe found that out in WW1, Hitler learned the hard way in WW2 and now Vlad is the latest example of such stupidity. Bush's unnecessary war against Saddam filled Europe with refugees and cause a rightwing backlash and occupying the place was a disaster for America.
the iraq war.....what a fucked up sitrep that was...the prelude for it was just dumb and yes we shouldn't have never been in. But the outcome and what it is now, is a lot better than what it was......especially with the Ba'aths out, the Ba'aths party was ruthless, they were basically Mild Eastern Nazism at it finest.....Assad is apart of it too js.....and for Saddam giving the green light to gas thousands of Kurds, and to finally see him get justice like he deserved was well worth it......
 

DIY-HP-LED

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the iraq war.....what a fucked up sitrep that was...the prelude for it was just dumb and yes we shouldn't have never been in. But the outcome and what it is now, is a lot better than what it was......especially with the Ba'aths out, the Ba'aths party was ruthless, they were basically Mild Eastern Nazism at it finest.....Assad is apart of it too js.....and for Saddam giving the green light to gas thousands of Kurds, and to finally see him get justice like he deserved was well worth it......
With Russia off the table things could change there and Syria. Saddam was kinda Uncle Sam's Frankenstein monster that he set on Iran in an epic ww1 style war that went on for years. Bush never understood the basics, 60% of Iraq are Shiite Muslims and loyal to Iran, just 17% were Sunni Muslims with the rest Kurds and other minorities. Once Iran got Saddam off their backs, they could cause more mischief.
 

BudmanTX

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With Russia off the table things could change there and Syria. Saddam was kinda Uncle Sam's Frankenstein monster that he set on Iran in an epic ww1 style war that went on for years. Bush never understood the basics, 60% of Iraq are Shiite Muslims and loyal to Iran, just 17% were Sunni Muslims with the rest Kurds and other minorities. Once Iran got Saddam off their backs, they could cause more mischief.
that is true, but the shiite's weren't loyal to Iran, they were more loyal to Iraq itself....you can thank Sistani for that and the other shiite clerics for that
 

DIY-HP-LED

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that is true, but the shiite's weren't loyal to Iran, they were more loyal to Iraq itself....you can thank Sistani for that and the other shiite clerics for that
Iran supported them and Saddam suppressed them. After the lid came off things played out differently, but while Americans were there they were targets for Iran.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Putin will not take his defeat in Kherson lying down

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"It does feel like it could be an ambush to lure Ukraine in."

Russia withdrawing from Kherson could be a trap for Ukraine, or lead to Putin lashing out on civilians.

Lucy Fisher, chief political commentator at Times Radio, Paul Waugh, The I's Radio Chief Political Commentator and John Pienaar discuss the latest developments.
 
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