Attention Atheist

afrawfraw

Well-Known Member
Hey all you ignorant atheist out there, Ive tried getting an answer to my question on your athiest thread but all of you just answer with some nonsense that has nothing to prove or do with the situation.Anyway my question is if god is not the creator of the heavens and the earth & you dont believe scientist big bang, ice asteroid theory then how in the hell did everything come about?Do you seriously think that the universe just accidently created everything & everyone for no reason? You cant just ignore reality your whole life & if you can I feel terribly sorry that your children must be raised upon lies. and Please id love to hear your bullshit explanations
I can NOT answer this question. I am excluded because I DO believe in the "Big Bang" theory. You also scratched Ice Rock theory. So your question falls to a select group of "Non-Faithers".
 

afrawfraw

Well-Known Member
Further more, doesn't it bother you just a little that YOU BELIEVE in a theory with no evidence? NONE. That is why you need faith. But when you know something for sure, you don't need faith. The paradigm of religion is the ONLY institution which must have faith to operate. Every other action in your life, from walking to buying a house, beckons you to investigate all information available! You wouldn't have faith in a Realtor or a car salesman, yet you decide on FAITH alone, one of the most important choices of your life...Or was that decided for you? A lot of people are raised in a church so they never get a choice.
 

afrawfraw

Well-Known Member
"We have to learn again that science without contact with experiments is an enterprise which is likely to go completely astray into imaginary conjecture." -
Hannes Alfven
 
Further more, doesn't it bother you just a little that YOU BELIEVE in a theory with no evidence? NONE. That is why you need faith. But when you know something for sure, you don't need faith. The paradigm of religion is the ONLY institution which must have faith to operate. Every other action in your life, from walking to buying a house, beckons you to investigate all information available! You wouldn't have faith in a Realtor or a car salesman, yet you decide on FAITH alone, one of the most important choices of your life...Or was that decided for you? A lot of people are raised in a church so they never get a choice.
Nicely put. I totally agree with what you are saying here. Especially the last line. No where in the bible are baptisms performed on anyone but consenting adults yet today we believe it to be ok to do it to nearly newborn children? Someone miss the freewill part of the bible? Just saying! Fucking confusing it must be to be a person of faith in an age of reason.
 

afrawfraw

Well-Known Member
Nicely put. I totally agree with what you are saying here. Especially the last line. No where in the bible are baptisms performed on anyone but consenting adults yet today we believe it to be ok to do it to nearly newborn children? Someone miss the freewill part of the bible? Just saying! Fucking confusing it must be to be a person of faith in an age of reason.
It's so confusing and frustrating that most churches have "Classes" and "Counseling" services to quell uprisings!

WORD!
 

CrackerJax

New Member
The church specifically goes after the children (sometimes literally.... ew) to indoctrinate them through the parents. Otherwise, if someone was raised without religion and then shown the Bible at the age of 18 or so... that person would put it right in the fairy tale category.

Control lost....story....fairytale.
 

afrawfraw

Well-Known Member
The church specifically goes after the children (sometimes literally.... ew) to indoctrinate them through the parents. Otherwise, if someone was raised without religion and then shown the Bible at the age of 18 or so... that person would put it right in the fairy tale category.

Control lost....story....fairytale.
Quite right!

You never switched your helm though...:lol::lol::lol:
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Back in my University days.... every Thursday night was D&D night in a room suite down the hall where some buddies were housed. One of the few rooms with 2 rooms and a kitchenette.

D&D ...Drugs and drinking ... :wink: Never missed it once.
 

jrmnw1

Member
Give it up. God is a waste of time, and mans feeble attempt during primitive times in the absence of scientific technology to explain that which is beyond our simple lives. We live 80 years or so, just a blink in the massive scale of time. Stop wasting your life trying to find God, and simply live, toke, fuck, and die, not necessarily in that order. Peace.
 

Block

Active Member
Then who created that "Creator"? ;)
I've seen somewhere that the creator is energy. The law of conservation and matter.

"A consequence of this law is that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, it can only be transformed from one state to another."

God is in us all. thats what almost every priest, christian, and other believer tells me. So in that sense God is energy.
 

Block

Active Member
Give it up. God is a waste of time, and mans feeble attempt during primitive times in the absence of scientific technology to explain that which is beyond our simple lives. We live 80 years or so, just a blink in the massive scale of time. Stop wasting your life trying to find God, and simply live, toke, fuck, and die, not necessarily in that order. Peace.
It's a shame that a 2000 year old book can't even convince some people to even give a chance.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Frankly.... the church will say just about anything to maintain control of the superstitious.

Like fish in a barrel.
 

afrawfraw

Well-Known Member
It's a shame that a 2000 year old book can't even convince some people to even give a chance.
If a book is credible because it's old, convert to Hinduism NOW! Or should I say,"It's a shame that you won't give 3500 year old texts a fare shot!"
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Ahhh, but it's a conundrum....that would mean using logic.... BUT...if you use logic too much.... you realize you are an Atheist.
 

KaleoXxX

Well-Known Member
I've seen somewhere that the creator is energy. The law of conservation and matter.

"A consequence of this law is that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, it can only be transformed from one state to another."

God is in us all. thats what almost every priest, christian, and other believer tells me. So in that sense God is energy.
my hats off to you block :clap: if haze had used a realistic and intelligent argument such as this then this thread would have been alot better. if he had stated that god is in and all around us in every thing that has potential and kenetic energy, that god may not have created everything but is actually the energy behind the creation of the wonders of life, then he would have made alot more sence

instead hes bithing and moaning that athiests are wrong and were ignorant. it seems evident that athiests ARE NOT ignorant; we alr all verry well informed

haze, you want me to answer your questions? i will
Anyway my question is if god is not the creator of the heavens and the earth & you dont believe scientist big bang, ice asteroid theory then how in the hell did everything come about? natural selection, plate techtonics, evolution, molecular fusion, physics, chemistry and chance all mixed up together and behold! the end result is our planet and life

Do you seriously think that the universe just accidentally created everything & everyone for no reason? accident and coincidence may have played a part in it, but we have to accept one harsh reality; we really cant pretend to know everything. none of us can, we either disagree or drop the issue. do expect to convert someone to your (non catholic non christion god fearing) point of view? online of all places?
 
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