Oh, I know they're protected under the Constitution but was unsure of how church rankings and such have influence on other churches.
No, your post is complete bullshit.
Yeah, and you know what that kind of stuff is called at a gay club? Wednesday.
Special treatment is progress now? Also, it's amazing how 95% of those kids grew out of being "bi" once they graduated.
Asked each and every one of them did you? Yeah. Sorry, but I'm not going to take your word for that.
Because it has always been discrimination. Just like when the catholic church ruled Native Americans didn't have souls or the U.S. government saying Blacks weren't completely human. Or when blacks weren't allowed to marry or vote.. or women not being allowed to vote.
Gay Panic has absolutely nothing to do with sexual harassment. It was simply a ploy to get someone off from killing a fag. They even tried that dumb ass defense with the Matthew Shepard murder. Yeah that 5'4 120 lb. guy sure was a threat to those big burly straight guys.
Except that it wasn't a woman, it was a man. And women ARE taught to use violence against men hitting on them and being a bit too pushy.
Yes, play the martyr. you want to talk vilified and persecuted? All homosexuals are pedophiles? Still fighting that one. All homosexuals have an agenda of turning children gay. You used that in this thread. We are making kids promiscuous. Kids have, are, and will always be horny as hell. It's a fact of nature. You can't blame homosexuals for that. it's simple biology. Yet, it's our fault. We are now being blamed for the holocaust. Yep. Homosexuals did it. We are being blamed for the destruction of society, earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, sun burns and the occasional chafing. You can't even begin to compare this to your being told to keep your shit to yourself.
It is never a choice. It's just who we are. Just like being straight is who you are. You say there is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay but you're entire argument in this thread has shown nothing but the opposite.
And the sheep follow blindly, perpetrating discrimination and bigotry.
what's the fucking difference? The right thing to do is feel flattered and accept the god damned compliment. For being too pushy? How about for attempted sexual assault. Yes, women are taught self-defense. It's up to them how they use it. You keep trying to intimate that all gay to straight interactions are threatening or harassing in nature. Why? Because we're all sexual predators? We're all potential rapists? 99% of the time the violence was perpetrated due to a compliment or a comment about hooking up. Should a woman beat the shit out of a man for complimenting her or hoping he could get lucky that night. That's a far cry from threatening or harassing behavior. Your argument is weak.
ie: carrion matter tween the ears....yep and surely will prove this hypothesis accurate...
And a woman has never smacked a dude in the face when he hit on her?
yes lets equate a slap on the cheek to beating someone into a coma or into a grave. Jesus.
First of all, I was generalizing. Please don't try and turn this around. It's not about you and I wasn't making it about you. But you are bound and determined to play the victim here. Second of all, you're the one that went off on the gay promiscuity tangent and how we are corrupting young people. Don't get butt hurt if I address and debunk your claims.
Did I claim that you did? You're the one that brought up the scenario of saying you're against gay marriage on the job and the consequences from that. You keep saying your personal beliefs are being discriminated against. What personal beliefs related to gay equality would that be? If you are for gay marriage and feel there's nothing wrong with it then exactly how are you being discriminated against?
lol, It's never a choice, you either have feelings for people of the same sex or not. The only choice is whether or not you act on your true nature and the only thing that prevents many gay or bi people from being who they really are is fear. Their lives are legislated as if they had made a choice but it's just who they are. My brother is gay and when we first talked about it he told me how it was hard for him because he didn't come across as gay so people never suspected anything but it allowed him to see how people truly felt about homosexuality and he felt like less of a person and that really killed me. He kept talking about how he felt that everyone he cared about would leave his life or treat him differently if they knew and he felt like he would be letting them down and disappointing them so he has never acted on his true nature. He is constantly depressed and feels like he has been cursed to be this way and doesn't understand why people care about who and what other people are. Until you take the time to understand someone your opinion will never be accurate because you don't have all of the facts. Just realize that your opinion is effecting peoples lives and is not the same as your opinion on everyday matters like what kind of music you like or what kind of clothes you wear.
This is a group of people who have rights and their rights have been denied to them, what do you expect them to do? This shouldn't even be an issue they are human beings and have the same rights as anyone else.
I do and that's kind of what I meant. I had never really thought about it until some one I loved unconditionally happened to be gay. I just think people who aren't gay or don't have someone close to them that is gay will ever understand.I can identify with your brother. I grew up in a devout Mormon family with four older brothers. I wouldn't know how to "act gay" (whatever that means) if I tried. I hunt, fish, hike, bike, run marathons and shoot a mean bow. My own brothers used to talk some pretty nasty shit. It was fag this and fag that. When I came out, it all stopped. Their love hasn't changed one iota. I have full support from my family. It really helps. Tell you brother to keep his chin up. It gets better.
It's funny you should say that. One of the things my brother was worried about was if he did let people know, that they would act different and he didn't want people to be fake around him he knows we care about him but he sees all of the hate and says he would rather know how people really felt than have to live with people not being honest and patronizing him. One thing that doesn't help is our parents, they think it's his choice and have said things to him that really affected him which I think is one of the reasons he hasn't been able to move forward.
They didn't start censoring themselves. We have family get togethers where we share our burdens. It's a Mormon thing. I did a lot of explaining and discussing it with them over the years. They just realized that everything they heard, the stereotypes, the fear mongering, all of it was shit. Now they are behind equal rights for all. I'm so proud of my family.
